Christoff Yurievich
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Official NeoGAF US Mid-term Elections 2006 Thread
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Stoney Mason
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f_elz said:NBC says Dems win Senate
But wait Foxnews.com hasn't updated with that yet so it can't be true.
The King needs to stop doing television. I've said this a thousand times. His best days are behind him.Shard said:
He does kind of look like a perv :lolCheebs said:
I don't think he's Foley-level, though!
When he said he won, last night, can't you a picture a "oh uhh and... I just ****ed your sister! Uh huh huh huh huh" after? :lol
Learn2read
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AniHawk said:
Wikipedia said:
Badass total.
Wow. So after all the corruption we've got a leader who actually tired to strangle someone who tried to bribe him? That's just awesome.mamacint said:
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050808fa_fact
BigJonsson
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What happened
Why did they suddenly call that race?
Why did they suddenly call that race?
They better do something with this. Seriously. If they don't go around fixing all the damage that the right wreaked I'm just giving up on US politics because it's obviously pointless. It would help if they could focus the publics attention on all the shit that went down and which the public, apparently, found none too interesting.
Please don't screw this up.
Besides taping the Constitution back together (after first showing everyone the pieces), I'm most excited about the idea of energy independence with the focus on renewable energy. Let's get the ball rolling there.
I don't know what the deal is with "breaking the link between lobbyists and legislation" but I'm (naively of course) hoping for lobbying to be utterly removed. To me it's nothing more than a bribe and it needs to be completely eliminated.
Yeah, promises promises.
Please don't screw this up.
Besides taping the Constitution back together (after first showing everyone the pieces), I'm most excited about the idea of energy independence with the focus on renewable energy. Let's get the ball rolling there.
I don't know what the deal is with "breaking the link between lobbyists and legislation" but I'm (naively of course) hoping for lobbying to be utterly removed. To me it's nothing more than a bribe and it needs to be completely eliminated.
Yeah, promises promises.
Only partially on topic, and thankfully now irrelevant, watch professional cµnt Santorum talk about how the pursuit of happiness is bad for America:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03zFTTqHScI&eurl=
I really hope we never have to hear from this scumbag again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03zFTTqHScI&eurl=
I really hope we never have to hear from this scumbag again.
Beer Monkey
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Phoenix said:
Hey Rove, you are entitled to your own opinions but you aren't entitled to your own facts.
krypt0nian
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"Overrrrrrrsight!"
"Drinks are on me!"
chase said:
How could they really fix things though? Any legislation they introduced (even if they got it through both houses) could just be vetoed by Bush could it not? Sounds a tad authortarian for my tastes. In fact there are a few things I like about the US system (mid-term elections is a nice checks and balances thing and it's worked here), but I think that any party that forms a majority in both houses should have the power to form government full-stop.
Seems to me they could launch a bunch of enquiries about Bush's conduct in various areas, block any legislation they didn't like and that's about it. They would have to take power to affect any real change.
Can the dems get people interested in their agenda? Or is this whole thing just a "fix Iraq; then we'll go back to our Bible-humping righties kthx"? It seems clear that this election was, for a large part, not based on a sudden surge in support for the traditional liberal agenda. Witness all the 'moderate Democrats' that had to run in order to win.
You can't argue with faith, so how can they increase the mindshare of their ideas about abortion and stem cells?
There are other conflicts between the democratic agenda and what I've come, in recent years, to regard as the 'typical American mindset' but I'm too tired right now to put them all out; and besides, you're all smarter than me anyway.
Look, it's obviously not going to happen in the short term, but can the dems overcome all this and get the country going in a progressive direction? Or is it back to business as usual in 2, 4, or 6 years?
You can't argue with faith, so how can they increase the mindshare of their ideas about abortion and stem cells?
There are other conflicts between the democratic agenda and what I've come, in recent years, to regard as the 'typical American mindset' but I'm too tired right now to put them all out; and besides, you're all smarter than me anyway.
Look, it's obviously not going to happen in the short term, but can the dems overcome all this and get the country going in a progressive direction? Or is it back to business as usual in 2, 4, or 6 years?
Well, you'd be right, if the president doesn't mind the history books saying that he didn't do jack squat in his last two years in office. Usually, though, neither presidents nor legislatures want to be remembered as total jackoffs, so they do compromise.xabre said:
The current do-nothing congress was almost unparalleled in their pursuit of doing nothing among divided governments, much less single-party governments.
The best legislation comes out of divided governments. Ideally only two of (president, House, Senate) should ever be the same party.
ConfusingJazz
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xabre said:
A couple things:
Congressional Oversight: really important that hasn't been in effect since Bush took office. expect a flurry of hearings into the Iraq War, Haliburton, etc
Nomination Approval: Most important reason to take senate, especially with John Bolton nomination to the UN, and the chance of another seat on the Supreme Court opening up.
Budget: House controls this, and with such a dominating lead, Bush is going to have to listen to the Dems.
Do The Mario
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I am shocked how many Americans dont know what a Neo Conservative really is or the Origins of the movement.
Media ****ing up political ideology FTL.
Good to see Rumsfled fell on his sword, how a secretary of defense can have no concept of soft power is beyond me (sorry phoenix).
Media ****ing up political ideology FTL.
Good to see Rumsfled fell on his sword, how a secretary of defense can have no concept of soft power is beyond me (sorry phoenix).
JoshuaJSlone
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Yep. However, that group is made up of 21 Republicans and 12 Democrats, so it seems the Republicans have more to lose.Hitokage said:No, another third of the senate is up for election in 2 years.
Looking at the 2002 results a bit more closely (disregarding Missouri as it was a special election), though, I guess the chance for change isn't quite that uneven. Arbitrarily choosing a 10% or less difference between the two leading candidates as those most susceptible to a change next time around, it looks like there are 5 narrow Democratic seats and 7 narrow Republican seats.
Phoenix
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xabre said:
2/3rds majority vote in house and senate can override a presidential veto, so it is possible that Bush could TRULY become a non-issue. With the remaining republican minority afraid for their jobs and future, they aren't going to stand by Bush with the same level of vigor as they did during the drunken orgy days of the republican majority of the house and the senate.
Ninja Scooter
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Phoenix said:
MANDATE.
Learn2read
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Ninja Scooter said:
Man, this is awesome. It only took 4 cycles, but I was finally able to be involved in an election that had a happy ending! I thought the democrats would take the house, but until late laste night that I thought the margins would be this wide, and that they'd get the Senate too. Sweet.
My biggest concern is that I think a lot of the House gains will be short lived. Democrats really had a perfect storm going into this, taking seats that they would have otherwise had no business taking. And they won't be able to run on general Republican incompetence in '08. OTOH, I expect the Senate lead to grow. And it's pretty depressing to think about dropping almost all the close races in '04.
So, in order to win, I think they'll need to a) be professional and b) do something. In contrast to the Republicans, a should be easy, and I think they'll pull it off. With b), I think they should manage to increase the min. wage and implement the 9/11 comission guidelines without too much trouble. Beyond that I hope to see broad energy policy reform, which is an important issue in so many ways, and should have massive bipartisan support. And then get us the hell out of Iraq.
And then give me Gore or Clark in '08, with a side of Obama, and start shooting for Health Care!
mad props to the whole party for pulling this off...and keep at it
My biggest concern is that I think a lot of the House gains will be short lived. Democrats really had a perfect storm going into this, taking seats that they would have otherwise had no business taking. And they won't be able to run on general Republican incompetence in '08. OTOH, I expect the Senate lead to grow. And it's pretty depressing to think about dropping almost all the close races in '04.
So, in order to win, I think they'll need to a) be professional and b) do something. In contrast to the Republicans, a should be easy, and I think they'll pull it off. With b), I think they should manage to increase the min. wage and implement the 9/11 comission guidelines without too much trouble. Beyond that I hope to see broad energy policy reform, which is an important issue in so many ways, and should have massive bipartisan support. And then get us the hell out of Iraq.
And then give me Gore or Clark in '08, with a side of Obama, and start shooting for Health Care!
mad props to the whole party for pulling this off...and keep at it
ferrarimanf355
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I need a photoshop of Pelosi and Reed together with the saying "What Happens In Vegas, Stays In Vegas" pronto!krypt0nian said:
"Overrrrrrrsight!"
"Drinks are on me!"
monchi-kun
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mamacint said:
president Bush...did you bring your catcher's mitt today?
Yes, because the media is finally starting to cover their actual plans. No one gave a minute to their proposals until it became clear that Nancy Pelosi was going to become the Speaker of the House and suddenly the news outlets were discussing her first 100 hours proposals and all the other policy changes. Democrats' big problem in the past has been getting their message out. That's changing, quickly.chase said:
Fragamemnon
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Gruco said:
Only about three or four of the seats we picked up should really be thought of us as within grasp of the GOP in a "normal" year. TX-22, IN-08, OH-18, IN-09. A few others more on the fringes, but for the most part the partisan index of the districts picked up was very much "Democratic fertile" grounds of just a few points red or blue. A lot of the wins came in the Northeast and in PA, where the victories represent the completeness of the realignment of those states.
There's certainly some room for GOP takeback, of course, but the power of incumbency is very strong and, with the exception of TX-22, they'll have to fight pretty hard to regain that ground.
On the other hand, those two narrow Dem. GA districts are ripe for the taking if they can field good challengers again.
ChrisJames
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This election has restored my faith in America and its elections (for the moment). I was sure that the Republicans would have something up their sleeves *cough voter fraud, electronic voting "problems".
Frag, I agree with you that having incumbency power is going to be huge, and yeah, DeLay's old seat is the most egregious example. But would they have knocked off so many if it wasn't for Foley, wife-chocking, Allen's screw ups, etc?
Even in Pennsylvania there are still some areas I wouldn't consider remotely democratic. Maybe incumbency (and hopefully two more years of improved democratic infastructure) will be enough to make up for everything that made the Republicans get their asses kicked last night. I certainly hope you're right. But I'm still a little skeptical. (which is good, because we shouldn't be getting complacent!)
Even in Pennsylvania there are still some areas I wouldn't consider remotely democratic. Maybe incumbency (and hopefully two more years of improved democratic infastructure) will be enough to make up for everything that made the Republicans get their asses kicked last night. I certainly hope you're right. But I'm still a little skeptical. (which is good, because we shouldn't be getting complacent!)
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