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Official NFL 2011 Offseason Thread of OUR LONG NATIONAL NIGHTMARE IS OVER

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Pete Prisco said:
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Let me start this column by saying it is not another shot at David Garrard. I mean it. Really.

It's praise for Blaine Gabbert.

What I saw on the Jacksonville Jaguars' practice field Thursday night from Gabbert, the team's top pick in the April draft, is like nothing I've witnessed on any of the Jaguars' practice fields in the 16 years they've been in existence.

Not from Mark Brunell. Not from Byron Leftwich, and not from Garrard.


What I saw on that practice field Thursday was a rookie quarterback who stood tall in the pocket, scanned the field, and made throws down the field with a big, strong arm.

He's also a guy who can improvise, seeing him several times get flushed out of the pocket, only to keep his eyes up for a chance to make a throw, which he did twice.



As one Jaguars source said, "He does some of the things that Ben Roethlisberger does. He's a playmaker. He makes plays."

At 6-foot-5, Gabbert looks the part. He walks with a swagger. He seems to take over the huddle. In his short time here, he has already won over the hearts of the female fans in town, who seem to swoon over his shaggy, blonde hair and red cheeks.

The Jaguars have not had a face of the franchise ever at the quarterback position. Brunell won them over with his ability to improvise, but he wasn't their draft pick, coming over in trade, and his tenure was only seven good years.

Byron Leftwich, the team's first-round pick in 2003, was considered a bust, his long wind-up and easy-going manner making him an easy target for the fans in Jacksonville. There was talk that he wasn't embraced because he was black, which some in the organization didn't dispute.

Garrard is a run-around quarterback who plays hard, is certainly tough, but he is limited in what he does down the field. He can win if everything around him is right, but he's not going to carry a team. He can be fun to watch and maddening at the same time. Garrard is a quarterback ranked in the late teens to low 20s in the league rankings.

Gabbert can be a top-10 guy.


I watched his tape in college, and Gabbert did some things that were unsettling. He felt phantom pressure at times. But you could always see the arm and the athletic ability. I liked Florida State's Christian Ponder more -- still do -- but Gabbert looked much better than I expected Thursday.

I know it's only one practice, and it's not live contact, but he does things that you want from a quarterback. The coaches aren't publicly saying all that much about him, but they know. The scouts know. And you better believe general manager Gene Smith knows. He's the one who made the bold move to trade up and draft Gabbert.

When Smith did that, it ended the drought of not drafting a quarterback for the Jaguars, who hadn't done so since Leftwich was drafted eight years ago.

Gabbert throws ropes. There were three consecutive passes he threw for touchdowns in a red zone drill Thursday that buzzed by the heads of the defensive backs, barley getting above helmet level. He made two seam throws that Garrard doesn't make -- or won't make.

Sure, there were times where Gabbert has run out of the pocket too quickly during the first week of camp, but that will lesson as he understands the offense more. The coaches raved about the way he played in his first practice, even without an offseason to grasp the offense.

Before that practice, one of the coaches said, "It's one thing to know it on the board, but to do it on the field is another."

A week later, he's doing it on the field. The staff has raved about the way he has picked up the offense. He's still running with the second team, but he will get reps with the first team in the preseason. Garrard hurt his back Thursday and had to leave practice, and Gabbert stepped in as if it were his team.

The coaches want to make it a fair fight, which is why he will work with the ones during the preseason. If Gabbert continues to progress at the same rate, and plays well in the preseason, the team will have an interesting decision to make. Garrard has some supporters in the locker room, including running back Maurice Jones-Drew, so there has to be some concern about fracturing the team.

That happened in 2007 when coach Jack Del Rio made the decision the week before the regular season to jettison Leftwich and make Garrard the starter. The Jaguars made the playoffs that year, but there was some splintering in the locker room.

This is a younger team, so that might not be the case if it were to happen again.

"There's no rush," one team source said. "Let's see it play out."

Garrard is due to make $9 million this season. The Jaguars have cap room, so they can carry that number no matter what happens. But if Gabbert continues to ascend, that could change.

There are some scouts around the league who wonder about Gabbert's toughness. They say he will look good when there is no real pressure. The Jaguars don't buy it.

One team source said he's as tough a quarterback as he's seen on tape. But Garrard is tough, too. There's no denying that. For all his faults in the passing game, he shows up and competes. He takes shots.

He just doesn't have the same look or feel of the great quarterbacks. You know the look. It's hard to describe, but you know it when you see it. It's the size. The arm. The way they carry themselves. The ability to make plays when things aren't always going right.

As Gabbert walked off the field Thursday night, giving up his helmet in exchange for a pen to sign autographs for the adoring fans lining the rails just to get near him, you could see he had the "it."

He looked like a franchise quarterback.


If he plays like one in the preseason, there is little doubt that Del Rio would hesitate to pull the trigger and make him the starter. Some say Del Rio's job is on the line, so he won't do it. I say this: Del Rio will always play the best guy. He's said as much.

If it's Garrard, then it's Garrard. If it's Gabbert, it will be Gabbert.

And don't even talk about it being too soon for the rookie. I've heard the talk that playing a rookie quarterback can impact their psyche for the future.

"That's the dumbest thing I've heard," one general manager said. "If it does, then you picked the wrong guy."

No, the Jaguars look like they picked the right guy. The face of the franchise has been Maurice Jones-Drew the past five seasons. It's been a while since it was a quarterback.

That time might be coming sooner than you think.

Even Garrard has to know that.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15402181/gabbert-has-the-look-of-jacksonvilles-next-big-thing
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FrenchMovieTheme said:
wtf!? another play looking incredible in training camp!? wow, the nfl is in for a treat this year! every player, new and old, is looking awesome!


Your sarcasm does a bad job of masking your insecurities
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
wtf!? another play looking incredible in training camp!? wow, the nfl is in for a treat this year! every player, new and old, is looking awesome!

Both Sanchez and Alex Smith have looked terrible so far :jakncoke
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
wtf!? another play looking incredible in training camp!? wow, the nfl is in for a treat this year! every player, new and old, is looking awesome!
Reggie Bush says he has complete confidence in Henne.

We're going to Indianapolis!
 
talisayNon said:
Both Sanchez and Alex Smith have looked terrible so far :jakncoke

i guess if you consider completing 14 straight passes bad (alex smith) on your first day of practice (which was yesterday since FA's couldn't practice until august 4)
 
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Deleted member 8095

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I love that ESPN is reporting on the rumors that the Dolphins want Favre. I am almost certain he will be on a team by opening day. It's sad and really funny all at the same time. GIVE IT UP BRENT!
 

squicken

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Michael Lombardi said the league could turn into college with all the reduced contact rules and fines for hitting, where everyone runs basically a spread offense. 39 and 40 pass attempts for Ben/Rodgers in the SB last year.

That said, a QB in camp has no fear of getting hit. But I'm not sure that is as important as it used to be. There's the famous Joe Montana scramble where the Giants absolutely light him up and knock him out. But these big QBs now can roll out, and know that no matter how bad they get hit, no one will hit them high. It's going to be interesting how the limiting of hitting in practice, and ferocious prosecution of defensive players with fines, is going to change the game.

Do you guys want to watch 35-30 games with 70 combined passes most games? I'm don't bet on games anymore, buy it will be interesting how O/U are set the first few weeks.
 
WinoMcCougarstein said:
I love that ESPN is reporting on the rumors that the Dolphins want Favre. I am almost certain he will be on a team by opening day. It's sad and really funny all at the same time. GIVE IT UP BRENT!

I get queasy thinking about it. It's bullshit. He's done.
 
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TheDrizzlerJ11 said:
I get queasy thinking about it. It's bullshit. He's done.

Brady vs Favre 2x a year! The media wants it!
 

Ænima

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Lol at the posters in here busting a nut over unproven players looking good at camp. I can't wait until the regular season gets here.
 
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Ænima said:
Lol at the posters in here busting a nut over unproven players looking good at camp. I can't wait until the regular season gets here.

'Ppreciate that.
 

Miguel

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iapetus said:
Excellent, if expected, news - the Jags have locked up one of the contenders for 'most irritatingly misspelt player in the NFL' (a position that's open since Favre's retirement) by giving Marcedes Lewis the contract he deserves. :)
Danieal Manning says hello
 

Miguel

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Buckethead said:
Still not going to happen.
Didn't say they were winning another SB... just that Manning is going to use his fetushead to get the owner to can Caldwell. What an awful coach. I hope he stays.
 

Chiggs

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FrenchMovieTheme said:
wtf!? another play looking incredible in training camp!? wow, the nfl is in for a treat this year! every player, new and old, is looking awesome!

lol

I can't stand training camp hype.
 
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Chiggs said:
lol

I can't stand training camp hype.

But have you heard how AWESOME Randall Cobb and DJ Williams have been in camp? HYPE TRAIN 3rd STIKE EDITION!
 
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Deleted member 8095

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MikeTyson said:
stop using hashtags pound symbols

looks like you copy and paste shit from twitter

Who are you talking to? Crazysonofabitch#
 
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Deleted member 8095

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If Clay Matthews arm wrestled Thor who would win? #rippeddudeswithlongblondehair
 
WinoMcCougarstein said:
#noproof #jealous

the niners envy no linebacker!

Willis%20Flex2.jpg
 

DieselRainbow

Neo Member
Thanks for pointing me in the way of NFL Network : Total Access! Some awesome stuff on there. Really looking forward to following my 1st full NFL season from the UK :)
 

Brinbe

Member
Apologies if I'm late on this, but just saw that Akers put up a billboard thanking Eagles fans.

David Akers didn't need to do anything to further endear himself to Eagles fans, but there's little doubt that the team's former kicker just wedged himself a little bit further into Philadelphians' hearts.

Akers, at one point the longest-tenured athlete in Philly, is now a resident of the Left Coast, having recently signed with the San Francisco 49ers. But Philadelphia will always be special to Akers, who expressed that notion by tweeting a picture of a billboard he's having put up along I-95 thanking the city and its fans for supporting him during his 12-year career here.

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What a fucking class act, and he'll always be a personal fav along with the likes of Dawk and Westy.
 

ryan-ts

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dschalter said:
mcnabb was a choker, akers would never ch...

The real problem with McNabb is that he just didn't give a shit half the time. Dude would throw a pick and they'd show him smiling on the sidelines a minute later.
 
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