Official NHL CBA Conclusion thread! HOSANNAH, BITCHES

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calder said:
You're going to need to relax if you want to make it through the regular season. ;) Don't take the shit talking personally, it's just your team I hate. The teasing is done with love... just look at dem and Mike Works, they're practically making out by the end of the preseason.
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yea man but it gets vicious by the time playoffs come near. Flames Vs Canucks, Toronto vs Ottawa last time was absolutely a War on this forum.

I cant wait :D
 
Mike Works said:
Whereas people in Vancouver give a shit about the correct spelling of that street that doesn't have Stanley Cup parades?
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Eh, Yonge Street's seen plenty of other parades since '67...

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This thread is just a laugh riot so far...again, nobody knows how their teams look, but everybody's talking shit about the chances for their squad. It's like every single Leafs fan has taken on your identities and decided to post here using their inane logic.
 
I'm gonna go find and post my pics of me and my siblings partying on the Red Mile after Calgary's Game #7 loss against Tampa, complete with Oilers gear.

But anyways, I hear that Edmonton and Calgary will face each other 8 times this season. I guess they are pushing the inter-division rivalries. Pretty much 8 home games for the Oil, as we rock the 'Dome everytime.
 
The Internet said:
I'm gonna go find and post my pics of me and my siblings partying on the Red Mile after Calgary's Game #7 loss against Tampa, complete with Oilers gear.

But anyways, I hear that Edmonton and Calgary will face each other 8 times this season. I guess they are pushing the inter-division rivalries. Pretty much 8 home games for the Oil, as we rock the 'Dome everytime.
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Haha - yes!
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The Vancouver Canucks and the Buffalo Sabres both came into the league in 1970. Scoreboard since then?
Stanley Cup Finals appearances:
Vancouver: 2
Buffalo: 2
Leafs: 0


1999 was a great year. :D Of course other teams have won a million but at least the Sabres own the Leafs.
 
The Internet said:
I'm gonna go find and post my pics of me and my siblings partying on the Red Mile after Calgary's Game #7 loss against Tampa, complete with Oilers gear.

But anyways, I hear that Edmonton and Calgary will face each other 8 times this season. I guess they are pushing the inter-division rivalries. Pretty much 8 home games for the Oil, as we rock the 'Dome everytime.
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:lol Don't even go there man. Don't even go there. I would love for this rivalry to come back to life though. I still hate Edmonton and I have no reason to at all other than hockey during the 80's. :D
 
The Internet said:
I'm gonna go find and post my pics of me and my siblings partying on the Red Mile after Calgary's Game #7 loss against Tampa, complete with Oilers gear.
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:lol that's cold man. Still, I guess Oilers fans need to cling to *something* from the last 5 years.


And while some of my friends think I'm joking about my conspiracy theory, I'm actually 75% thinking the draft lottery will be rigged NBA style. Something about having a draft lottery behind closed doors at league headquarters makes me think we have another case of *gasp* the New York Knicks winning the lottery and drafting Ewing.
 
Anyone else find the irony of this whole new deal rather funny. It seems like every GM in the league is ready to spend like a drunken sailor. How long do you guys think it will be before superstars start signing 3 million dollar contract to play hockey and 5 million dollar contracts to be the teams spokesmen.
 
Ok.. seriously.. people need to stop suggesting this "player will sign for 2 million.. then get hired for 6 mil to work on leafs tv!!" crap. You really think they didnt address the most blatant loophole imaginable? Just stop bringing it up.
 
No shit, the section of the CBA dealing with the cap is 100 pages long. If something so ridiculous (even the CFL's joke of a salary cap isn't nearly as dumb) isn't addressed by the CBA then the league should just immediately fold. To suggest that it could happen is pretty out-there until the full document is known but to act like it must obviously have that gigantic loophole and of course it'll be exploited in such a blindingly stupid way is just dumb as fuck.
 
This draft lottery is scaring me
I keep using the draft lottery simulator .. and the #1 spot could goto anyone =P. Its one thing to say it... but when you look at these lists.. yuck. When I click and the Sens or Redwings get the #1 pick i want to slam my head into the wall.
 
I heard this on The Fan 590 today, there's a rumour coming out of St Louis that Mark Cuban (owner of the Dallas Mavericks for those who don't know) is very interested in buying the Blues. This is what the league needs, an owner who's a character. :lol
 
The draft simulator rules because after I did it 10 or 15 times it demonstrated to me just how slight the weighting process is. Being a favourite at 6.3% isn't all that much of an advantage.

Oh shit, I just did it again and it went 1) Wings 2) Pens 3) Ducks. :vomit:
Second try was Coyotes->Leafs->Thrashers. :lol God Crosby in Phoenix would be a waste even if Gretz lowered himself to coaching those bums.
 
From using the sim ive learned that atleast 1 very good team is going to be getting a very good pick. And by that I mean top 7.. cause its drops off after that imo.
 
calder said:
The draft simulator rules because after I did it 10 or 15 times it demonstrated to me just how slight the weighting process is. Being a favourite at 6.3% isn't all that much of an advantage.
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6.3% to get the first pick means 93.7% that they won't. I can't wait for Thursday.
 
Saturday, July 23
• Period for initiating compliance buyouts begins
• Period to negotiate and sign 2003 draft picks begins
• Period to extend qualifying offers begins
• Period to negotiate with own club's restricted and unrestricted free agents begins

Thursday, July 28
• Deadline to exercise club and player options for the 2005-06 season
• Deadline to sign 2003 draft picks (if not signed, 2003 draftees will re-enter the 2005 draft)
• Deadline to make required bona fide offers to 2004 draft picks

Friday, July 29
• Deadline for initiating compliance buyouts

Saturday, July 30
• Entry draft

Sunday, July 31
• Deadline to extend qualifying offers

Monday, Aug. 1
• Free-agent signing period begins
 
I agree about the weighting not having much effect. It almost makes sense to have it done a few times, and then rounded off after 3 lotteries.
 
A lot of media types have commented on how fucking stupid it is for this draft lottery not to be on TV. Can't say I disagree...the NHL hasn't been on TV since last year's cup final, and we're never going to see a draft lottery like this again, where every team in the league has a chance to get the number one pick for the most highly touted prospect since Eric Lindros, and maybe even Mario Lemiux. You'd think the "new" NHL would have this on as many channels as possible. But no, let's do this closed door so when the Rangers winthe pick, we can open ourselves up to scrutiny!! Dumb fucks...
 
Ok, the Crosby run is obviously the most interesting thing about the draft, but what other players are worth looking into? I've heard there was a lot of prospects this year. Who are they?
 
After Crosby.. most people consider these guys to be the next tier of players.

Jack Johnson
Gilbert Brule
Benoit Pouliot
Anze Kopitar
Bobby Ryan
And maybe Carey Price

Personally Id put Zagrapan in that group because #1 his body is completely undeveloped right now. Huge upside if he puts muscle on. He reminds me alot of Ales Hemsky when he was drafted. #2 He came over to the CHL. Shows commitment imo.

After that it looks like a dropoff to me.

TSN has a top30 up with some descriptions
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature.asp?fid=7329
 
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=130847
TSN to broadcast NHL draft lottery results

Canadian Press

7/19/2005 6:47:11 PM

TORONTO (CP) - The Sidney Crosby sweepstakes will be on TV after all.

TSN confirmed Tuesday that the NHL draft lottery in New York will be televised Friday. But like the NBA, only the results of the draw will be shown. The actual drawing will take place away from the cameras.

The original plan had been to hold the entire lottery behind closed doors during Friday's board of governors meeting, with commissioner Gary Bettman subsequently announcing the results at a news conference.

Now hockey fans will get to see how it unfolds. The order of the draft will be unveiled, starting with the 30th pick and ending with the prized first.

The event will be carried live on TSN, starting at 4 p.m. EDT following the 1 p.m. board of governors meeting
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Sounds like they'll be doing it NBA style...
 
Huh. Who wants to make some wild-ass guessing?

My guess: LA Kings
Dark horse (out of the teams that have the lowest 2.1% chance): Dallas

Kings I wouldn't care, Dallas would suck to me. Although I'd get to see him play when we visit the in-laws.
 
:lol Or Marty for that matter...

Knowing the NHL's dumb luck Cros will wind up in Nashville, which is just what they need...
 
If he went to Tampa it would be pretty great for the team assuming they wont lose many of the player they had when they won the cup.

Gotta love their locker room slogan: SAfe is Death
 
Is there a quick list of rule changes?

I hope they do not change the nets. Look at lacross, huge goalies and tiny nets, the game scores typically go into double digits. Round nets are not needed.
 
After a bit of a scare... Ovechkin is coming to Washington
http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=130940&hubName=nhl


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Ovechkin's path cleared to NHL

TSN.ca Staff
7/20/2005 4:22:01 PM

Alexander Ovechkin has cleared the way for himself to play in the NHL this season.

TSN has learned the No. 1 overall pick in the 2004 NHL entry draft has exercised his option to void his contract for this season with Omsk of the Russian Super League. Ovechkin, property of the Washington Capitals, could escape the Russian contract if he were given a contract offer by the Capitals on or before a deadline of July 20 (today). Although the NHL is not yet officially open for business, Washington apparently was able to make some sort of offering that gave Ovechkin the choice to void the contract with Omsk.

And sources say Ovechkin informed the Capitals today that he is, in fact, escaping his commitment to Omsk and wants to play for the Capitals in the NHL this season.

Based on the terms of the new CBA, Ovechkin and the Capitals can officially begin negotating a contract on Saturday. It likely won't be much of a negotiation. As a No. 1 overall pick and potential franchise player, the Capitals will likely give Ovechkin everything he's entitled to as a 2004 draft pick.

Ovechkin is eligible to receive slightly more money than the players who will be drafted in 2005, but not as much as he would have received if he and the Capitals had negotiated a contract prior to the beginning of the lockout.

Technically, there isn't anything to prevent Ovechkin from re-signing with Omsk if he doesn't come to terms with the Capitals, but it's difficult to imagine any scenario where the talented forward isn't wearing a Capitals' uniform this season.
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I hope the NHL lets Ovechkin keep that visor.... and if they do I hope no one else starts using it. It would be a cool trademark :D



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Damn, pity the pro-NHLPA writers who were so bummed by the evil owners 'winning' the CBA they kept promising some of the top young players would play in Europe rather than be capped so cruely under the NHL's wicked entry level system won't have Ovechkin as their poster boy anymore. "wah wah the rookie cap is so bad all those Euro draft picks will play in Russia instead just you wait, Ovechkin will make 4 mill a season to work for a drug kingpin and play in some godforsaken Siberian mining town". That shit was annoying (and untrue) for the last CBA when some hockey writers were so sure Swiss draft picks would stay home to make an extra 500g's on their first contract and ignore the fact their second NHL contract would be double the maximum you could make in Europe.

*deep breath* sorry, pet peave. :D There's those hockey writers who just have to make up impending disasters for the NHL (you know who they are) and their passive-aggressive antagonism toward the league itself is just pissing me off already and the goddamn lockout JUST ENDED.


And yeah, I was loving that visor first! Although I consider it a Theo Fleury throwback tinted window. Theo was the first guy (beyond the beer leagues) I can remember wearing it and it sure helped make him look even more shifty and out of control.

Mainly I want Ovechkin to keep tugging on his jersey and kissing the crest when he scores as a Capitol.
"And Ovechkin scores in his first NHL preseason game! The Caps go up by 2 against the Rangers and Alexander is kissing the number 8 on his sleeve and pointing to the Rangers bench! And now the linesmen are desperately trying to drag Kasparitus and McCarthy off the prone and bleeding Russian phenom!"
 
calder said:
Mainly I want Ovechkin to keep tugging on his jersey and kissing the crest when he scores as a Capitol.
"And Ovechkin scores in his first NHL preseason game! The Caps go up by 2 against the Rangers and Alexander is kissing the number 8 on his sleeve and pointing to the Rangers bench! And now the linesmen are desperately trying to drag Kasparitus and McCarthy off the prone and bleeding Russian phenom!"
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:lol I can't wait. :lol
 
So have you guys heard these rumours?

1. Messier wants to sign a one year contract with the Oilers so that he can retire at the end of the season.

2. Yzerman might be signing as an UFA with the Senators.
 
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