Official NHL CBA Conclusion thread! HOSANNAH, BITCHES

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Fuzzy said:
So have you guys heard these rumours?

1. Messier wants to sign a one year contract with the Oilers so that he can retire at the end of the season.

2. Yzerman might be signing as an UFA with the Senators.


And O'Neill wants to come to TO if the Hurricanes dont bring him back
 
Clarke Wilm is one silly guy
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so is Brian 'nose' Marchment!

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and while I'm posting pictures of funny looking Leafs......give it up for the best one of them all

Karel Pilar ( pronounced PILAJ...obviously)

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http://zdenik1.webzdarma.cz/statistiky/pilar.jpg (Intense Karel Pilar warning)
 
Man I hope Messier lands in Edmonton. It will be nice to watch the Canucks kick the crap out of them this year. A little revenge for all those years when they used to mop the floor with us. We might even get lucky and get to see big Bert end Messiers career Pat Quin style.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing Messier in Edmonton.
Just don't make him captain or anything (3rd line forward probably) and he would be a good influence in the locker room. Plus, it'd be a great way to go out.

Unlikely though, he's already damn old and he loves NY anyway.
 
Messier? A third line forward? DID YOU SEE HIM PLAY AT ALL IN THE PREVIOUS TWO SEASONS? His career is done. Over like the freaking Macarena. The man relied more on the clutch and grab when getting beat on the regular, shift after shift after shift. God, I hope he goes to Edmonton! :lol
 
640 Toronto just reported that North American players have completed voting, and that the necessary majority has already been reached. They also said that European voters have until 3pm ET.
 
DopeyFish said:
NHLPA has ratified the CBA.

Owners will ratify no questions asked tomorrow.

it's hockey time
TSN is reporting that it passed with 87% of the players supporting it.
 
Goodenow has been smoking pot. He keeps claiming they got a better deal now then they could have had earlier. He brings up the lowering of free agency age. Let's take a look at this:


1. Player can become a free agent at an earlier age.
2. Teams offering free agents contracts, are bound by a team cap.

So, based on point #2, how does point #1 matter at all?
 
Manics said:
Goodenow has been smoking pot. He keeps claiming they got a better deal now then they could have had earlier. He brings up the lowering of free agency age. Let's take a look at this:


1. Player can become a free agent at an earlier age.
2. Teams offering free agents contracts, are bound by a team cap.

So, based on point #2, how does point #1 matter at all?
But because of the 24% rollback Minnesota, Florida, Pittsburgh, and Nashville all have to increase their payroll in order to meet the $21.5M minimum. If the players took the deal back in February you would've seen those teams with $15M payrolls because there was no minimum and a few other teams with lower than $20M.
 
Damn. For some stupid reason I had my days mixed up so until a half hour ago I spent the entire day thinking the draft lottery was today. That's as big a letdown as the time I spent an entire friday at work incorrectly thinking Monday was a holiday.
 
Fuzzy said:
But because of the 24% rollback Minnesota, Florida, Pittsburgh, and Nashville all have to increase their payroll in order to meet the $21.5M minimum. If the players took the deal back in February you would've seen those teams with $15M payrolls because there was no minimum and a few other teams with lower than $20M.

According to USAToday, the lowest payroll in 2003-2004 was Nashville with $21.9 million.

I thought the Penguins were at like $16 million in 2003, but according to USAToday, they were at $23 million.

Not really that big of a deal in terms of lowest salary if USAToday's figures are true. At most, a team would have to add like $4 million.

EDIT - Just read that the Penguins plan on spending $17.5 million on free agents. That's a lot of money.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
Crosby to the Kings. Mark my words.

Well, if anybody is going to keep the brittle bones of the Kings from breaking, maybe it's him. I'm pretty sure their GM wanted the strike year anyway just for the recupe time.

My diehard fandom requires me to place all faith in the Canucks. Gooooo team!
 
dem said:
I forbid Messier from coming to Edmonton...

I hope Lowe learned his lesson with Oates

Oates rules! As far as I know he didn't do much in Edmonton as far as points go, but didn't he help improve their faceoffs? Because for the last 2 years, it seemed as if Edmonton couldn't even win 1/3 of faceoffs in a game :lol

Anyways, mark me down as a Detroit, Pheonix, Edmonton and Pittsburgh fanboy. I think they have a combined total of 8 balls, so there is a decent chance one of them will get Crosby. :)
 
dem said:
If the Canucks get Crosby... I couldnt handle it...

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Hey, more incentive!

I would freak out. Freak out, man! I have very little hope, though, and I'm not even deliberately setting myself up that way.... I just don't think it's going to happen. The guy is going to Minnesota, mark my words.
 
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Crosby's gonna end up on a team I don't like. If the Flames got Crosby my head would just implode.
 
Well, if I had to choose a team other than Vancouver, I guess it would be Chicago. So I could actually go watch him play.

It's the damndest thing though; I keep moving to cities I used to consider bitter rivals of the Canucks. ;)
 
Only one place Crosby should land and its Habs land. They're way past due for a star player, we havent had one in like a decade and the kid speaks french and english and its his favorite team, it's a given seriously.
 
I don't understand why they have to do the drawing behind closed doors. Why can't they just do it live. Total bullshit. Its probably an auction.
 
acidviper said:
I don't understand why they have to do the drawing behind closed doors. Why can't they just do it live. Total bullshit. Its probably an auction.
And the first pick goes to............ Nashville! .....practice ball.

And the first pick goes to........ Edmonton! .....practice ball.

And the first pick goes to..... ok, fuck it let's just give Crosby to the Rangers.
 
Socreges said:
And the first pick goes to............ Nashville! .....practice ball.

And the first pick goes to........ Edmonton! .....practice ball.

And the first pick goes to..... ok, fuck it let's just give Crosby to the Rangers.

:lol






Manics said:
Goodenow has been smoking pot. He keeps claiming they got a better deal now then they could have had earlier. He brings up the lowering of free agency age. Let's take a look at this:


1. Player can become a free agent at an earlier age.
2. Teams offering free agents contracts, are bound by a team cap.

So, based on point #2, how does point #1 matter at all?

You don't have to have ANY familiarity with Goodenow, the NHLPA or the issues invovled to see that he was spinning like a DUB rim, and looked pretty damn uncomfortable doing so to boot. He clearly hates this deal, but he's gotta tow the party line just so he can save a bit of face.

Again, the deal is pretty good for the players considering I thought the players would be lucky to get a cap number over 35 mill, and the minimum pay increase is a HUGE concession by the owners. Outside of the cap number, they were never going to get a better deal than this anyway (seriously, Bettman needing just 8 votes for veto power was one of the most lopsided advantages in the history of CBA negotiating), so in that sense I don't consider it to be a loss. Where the players got fucked up the ass was losing the year in pay, and doing so for nothing. That's why they come off looking so bad.






acidviper said:
I don't understand why they have to do the drawing behind closed doors. Why can't they just do it live. Total bullshit. Its probably an auction.

The NBA lottery is done the same way...draw is done behind closed doors with the team's officials, then the results are read out in descending (or is that ascending? whatever) order in front of cameras, with the team reps on that stage having no idea what the result is. It actually makes for some pretty cool TV, particularly the Lebron draft lottery of a couple years ago.

Oh yeah, kudos to the NHL for coming around on televising it...though why they didn't decide to do that in the first place is beyond me, and doesn't give me much hope for this "brand new partnership".
 
I like how the only people there for the actual drawing of the lottery are going to be a leauge official, and a few accountants. YOU REASSURE ME GREATLY BETTMAN. There's about 6 teams I'll be suspicious if he goes to. The leauge better hope for their sake that the Rangers don't get picked or they will be answering charges of fixing forever. :lol
 
This should be entertaining, I'm contemplating skipping out on physical therapy just to watch this thing. Roenick wants to see Crosby with the Rangers, as does Don Cherry. The league secretly wants him in New York. Now watch it all blow up in their faces. We've been speculating for a while now, which team will receive the services of Crosby. I'm willing to bet the team that wins this lottery will be a team that absolutely no one has really considered, even though they've got really great chances.





Aceface...For whatever reason, I got a good feeling about this thing man.
 
acidviper said:
I don't understand why they have to do the drawing behind closed doors. Why can't they just do it live. Total bullshit. Its probably an auction.


If they do it live, they draw the first ball..."The first pick goes to....'team x'".

<All hockey fans change the channel since the first pick has already been revealed.>
 
The League realizes that the Rangers would be too obvious. Islanders, Kings or Flyers now!

I'm glad it's being sorta televised, but I can see why the NHL didn't think about televising it before. It's pretty last minute, and really the actual draw is going to take like 5 minutes beginning to end unless they pad it out like the home run derby. And even then it'll be over in 15 minutes tops - not exactly worth preempting ESPN2 for especially since 90% of it is just Bettman reading team names in his annoying voice.
 
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New NHL logo? Seems to follow the description we've heard about it being silver and such.

Why are the letters angled the wrong way??? I was staring at it for a few minutes before i could figure out why it didnt look right.

Thumbs down NHL..
THUMBS DOWN
 
I was sure the new NHL logo would feature the Stanley Cup. At least that's what's been printed in numerous Canadian publications. I doubt that's the actual logo, but if it is, I don't think it's bad looking. New color scheme and font plastered on the old NHL 'shield'...I approve.
 
seeing as its right on the nhl.com frontpage... im going to assume its the logo :)


Also.. after staring at it for a few minutes i guess its alright. I may have overreacted :lol
 
Fight for Freeform said:
Oates rules! As far as I know he didn't do much in Edmonton as far as points go, but didn't he help improve their faceoffs? Because for the last 2 years, it seemed as if Edmonton couldn't even win 1/3 of faceoffs in a game
yes that certainly helped them out
 
"Report: Bertuzzi to get 10-20 more games


TSN.ca Staff



7/22/2005 11:55:00 AM

According a report in Friday's Vancouver Province, Canucks forward Todd Bertuzzi is expected to have his suspension extended for 10-20 games.

The paper reports that NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman will announce the extension of Bertuzzi's indefinite suspension -- for sucker-punching Colorado's Steve Moore on March 8, 2004 -- sometime next week.

A league source told the Province that the suspension will "come down next week so the league can get on with the business side. They have already made their minds up and it's only fair to the Canucks because if Bertuzzi wants out, then theres' little time to go after unrestricted free agents and qualify the restricted free agents they've got."

Bertuzzi is under contract for the 2005-06 season at a salary of $5.421 million, but there have been rumblings that he would like to be traded in order to have a fresh start after his tumultuous time in Vancouver.

Canucks coach Marc Crawford weighed in on the situation, predictably in support of Bertuzzi. "We're of the opinion Todd has served a very harsh penalty -- one of the most severe in NHL history -- and I'm really anxious for him to be back in the fold."




10 - 20 more games? wtf? im not canucks fan but shit this is pretty stupid.
 
Kabuki Waq said:
"Report:
TSN.ca Staff
7/22/2005 11:55:00 AM
Bertuzzi is under contract for the 2005-06 season at a salary of $5.421 million, but there have been rumblings that he would like to be traded in order to have a fresh start after his tumultuous time in Vancouver.

Rumblings = TSN staff and Vancouver Newspapers. It's been pretty soundly debunked just about everywhere else. The Vancouver press had more than enough practice with Bure to know how to coerce a guy out of town, though.
 
:lol :lol :lol

Good. Stupid people thought the lockout counted. Lockout doesnt count, jerkies!

Sit down some more, boy!
 
to be honest, i never liked the old logo. so anythings a step up... i have an odd urge to stare at the new one for some reason

and i think it's alright, a lot more standard... a lot more marketable.
 
Who thought the lockout counted?

Regardless, an extra 10 days on the golf course *shrug* is what it is. Maybe he can contact the Oilers for tips on his putting game. :)
 
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