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[GamePnoy74]

The new iPod universal dock and remote control ($70 total) just killed my plans on getting an Onkyo iPod adapter ($100) for my receiver =P

 

[Fëanor]

What about the iPod mini? No videos for the fella?;_;

 

[Juice]

sorry, you have to get the download through http://apple.com/itunes/download

it delivers the download to you based on your post request

 

[shantyman]

Not buying iPod video.

Are there any other video/MP3 alternatives that aren't the size of a brick?

Then your'e not buying anything. None will be smaller than the iPod.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

One thing I want to ask... can we put our OWN things on it, ala PSP? I was going to buy a PSP for Family Guy on the go, but I will buy this now if I can use it instead!

Well, it does say that you can watch "home movies" (read home porn! ) on it so, there must be a way to get your own content on it. That may mean that iMovie now exports to the iPod though. Never fear, it will be hacked!

I wonder if I can buy a TV episode from iTunes, and convert it for use on my Archos AV 400. May have to give that a try since the AV 400 does MPEG4 playback.

 

[The Faceless Master]

i'm surprised there is so little bitching on the screen size...

no PSP comparisons!?

 

[teiresias]

Damn, between the PS3, Apple's support for Blu-Ray, and now this remote and docking stuff, the whole Sony/Apple/Dell trifecta is really looking to crush Microsoft's home-server and "living room assimilation" dreams.

 

[Juice]

What about the iPod mini? No videos for the fella?;_;

As of this moment, there's no reason to believe there is video support for ANY pre-5G iPods.

 

[The Faceless Master]

What about the iPod mini? No videos for the fella?;_;

what about the ipod shuf... err, nevermind...

 

[Late Stage Marxist]

I'll stick with my Shuffle and PSP combo.

 

[Futureman]

Not buying iPod video.

Are there any other video/MP3 alternatives that aren't the size of a brick?

Um, brick? They are SMALLER than the current 4G iPods. Engadget says they are the same width and height, but thinner.

I need to see someone holding a 5G.

 

[Juice]

Well, it does say that you can watch "home movies" (read home porn! ) on it so, there must be a way to get your own content on it. That may mean that iMovie now exports to the iPod though. Never fear, it will be hacked!

I wonder if I can buy a TV episode from iTunes, and convert it for use on my Archos AV 400. May have to give that a try since the AV 400 does MPEG4 playback.

Not without analog converting it first, all purchases have DRM built in (I believe a feature of H.264's spec is to allow DRM to be coded in)

 

[White Man]

So no firmware update for old 60 gig color iPods? I won't be watching tonite's LOST on the busride home?

 

[Deku Tree]

They could have at least decided to throw in a Mighty Mouse with the PowerMac's... Now the iMac looks like a much better deal...

 

[Juice]

Um, brick? They are SMALLER than the current 4G iPods. Engadget says they are the same width and height, but thinner.

I need to see someone holding a 5G.

Engadget's wrong, the unit is DEFINITELY wider than the existing model. Not significantly, but enough to look awkward when you wrap your fingers around it.

 

[borghe]

Not without analog converting it first, all purchases have DRM built in (I believe a feature of H.264's spec is to allow DRM to be coded in)

if the DRM is the standard fairplay you can use jhymn to crack it. if it is a new fairplay then who knows.

 

[soundwave05]

Um, brick? They are SMALLER than the current 4G iPods. Engadget says they are the same width and height, but thinner.

I need to see someone holding a 5G.

I'm talking about multimedia players from other companies outside of Apple.

The 5G could be as thin as the Nano for all the good it does ... a 2.5 inch is a total half-assed job by Apple.

Really, as cool as the whole "white/silver back" design was 2-3 years ago, I think Apple will lose their iron grip on this market if they start to make half-assed products like this.

 

[shantyman]

i'm surprised there is so little bitching on the screen size...

no PSP comparisons!?

Probably because this has TV out and the PSP does not. Can you imagine in a few generations when they are doing HD video? (!)

 

[borghe]

I'm talking about multimedia players from other companies outside of Apple.

The 5G could be as thin as the Nano for all the good it does ... a 2.5 inch is a total half-assed job by Apple.

2.5" with TV out is awesome. you might be completely insane.

 

[shantyman]

I'm talking about multimedia players from other companies outside of Apple.

The 5G could be as thin as the Nano for all the good it does ... a 2.5 inch is a total half-assed job by Apple.

Just doesn't get it.
Over and over and over again.

No one makes smaller hard drive based players than Apple (at least with the same feature set). It's not that much to wrap your head around.

 

[Juice]

K guys, I'm out. Glad to have helped provide some updates alongside the other GAFfers who got into that IRC.

 

[soundwave05]

2.5" with TV out is awesome. you might be completely insane.

How is 2.5" "awesome"?

A friggin' regular GBA with Play-Yan has a bigger screen for video than that.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I'm talking about multimedia players from other companies outside of Apple.

The 5G could be as thin as the Nano for all the good it does ... a 2.5 inch is a total half-assed job by Apple.

next year trust that you will see a wide screen Apple New Sexy

people who buy this now will have to drool over the 80/120gb monsters

 

[xsarien]

i like how they dont tell you the battery life for playing videos

30GB: Up to 14 hours of music playback; up to 3 hours of slideshows with music; up to 2 hours of video playback

60GB: Up to 20 hours of music playback; up to 4 hours of slideshows with music; up to 3 hours of video playback

How is 2.5" "awesome"?

A friggin' regular GBA with Play-Yan has a bigger screen for video than that.

Good luck finding a 60GB SD card.

 

[shantyman]

How is 2.5" "awesome"?

A friggin' regular GBA with Play-Yan has a bigger screen for video than that.

First you are bitching that it is a brick and now the screen is too small? Make up your mind dude.

 

[soundwave05]

next year trust that you will see a wide screen Apple New Sexy

people who buy this now will have to drool over the 80/120gb monsters

Yup, I'm pretty sure that's all but in the cards. This model is just a cash grab to screw over Christmas shoppers. The "real" i-Pod Video will come out in the next six months.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

My guess is that the small screen is best for music videos and you can use the video out when you want to view it on a larger screen. The screen is a pretty small for extended viewing, such as watching a movie. Other than that, this is a pretty nice product. How can anyone complain about the iPod being too large. Of course, you can go for the Archos Gmini 402 which has a 2.2 inch screen, and the new version is going to come with a built in camcorder. Talk about your home made porn machine!

 

[soundwave05]

Can you guys friggin' read?

I never said the i-Pod was too big.

 

[Fëanor]

As of this moment, there's no reason to believe there is video support for ANY pre-5G iPods.

I think I'm gonna cry;_;

 

[shantyman]

Can you guys friggin' read?

I never said the i-Pod was too big.

Ok, let's assume for a second that I'm stupid. What does this mean then? You made it sound like you were not buying the iPod because it is the size of a brick.

Not buying iPod video.

Are there any other video/MP3 alternatives that aren't the size of a brick?

 

[Futureman]

Ok listen. Apple isn't calling this the iPod Video. That's why there's isn't a 5" screen or whatever on this. This is still here to please people who only want a small MP3 player with large capacity and don't care about video. But it also please people who want to watch video on the go every now and then, but also so they can connect it to the dock and video out to a TV. Personally I will never buy a portable video player with a big screen. Doesn't make much sense to me. Having the ability to watch video on the run if I want in a small form factor, plus being able to use the dock at home is the perfect mix in my opinion.

Also, I think people are going to be very surprised at how small the 5G is when they see it in person. Kinda like the Nano.

 

[borghe]

I think I'm gonna cry;_;

you know, I'm ok. Like I said, it would be clever to do this a few times a year (maybe even a few times a month) but overall I use it as a music player, and with that nothing is added to the ipod.

If it actually comes out with better firmware all the better.

 

[soundwave05]

Ok, let's assume for a second that I'm stupid. What does this mean then?

It means that I was asking for alternatives to the i-Pod video (from other manufacturers) that are reasonably sized, since Apple is not offering a video solution with a decent sized screen.

Jeebus. :lol

 

[ManaByte]

No TV shows in iTMS yet.

 

[borghe]

It means that I was asking for alternatives to the i-Pod video (from other manufacturers) that are reasonably sized, since Apple is not offering a video solution with a decent sized screen.

Jeebus. :lol

you want a bigger screen but the same size? have you looked at the 5G ipod? it's like asking for more a gallon of milk but you want a container smaller than a gallon?

 

[Deku Tree]

i will officially never trust thinksecret again with anything.

 

[truffleshuffle83]

i just ordered the 60gb black one to match my 4gb black nano!!!! im such a sell out

 

[Timbuktu]

I want Front Row, but I guess it only works with the new iMac? Also, I think Apple is testing the water with this iPod, maybe another step from iPod Photo, but I think a true iPod Video should be from ground up a different design.

 

[soundwave05]

you want a bigger screen but the same size? have you looked at the 5G ipod? it's like asking for more a gallon of milk but you want a container smaller than a gallon?

I see a lot of dead space on the 5G i-Pod.

Why does the click wheel have to take up like half the face surface? The Nano has a much smaller click wheel that works just fine.

I don't think I'm asking for a lot ... for a $400 product to have a screen bigger than at least a Game Boy.

 

[dynamitejim]

How is 2.5" "awesome"?

A friggin' regular GBA with Play-Yan has a bigger screen for video than that.

It's a whole 0.4" bigger and has half the resolution.

It means that I was asking for alternatives to the i-Pod video (from other manufacturers) that are reasonably sized, since Apple is not offering a video solution with a decent sized screen.

Good luck finding one. The iPod Video is not a PMP. It's more like the iAudio X5, an MP3 player that can do video.

 

[Fëanor]

you know, I'm ok. Like I said, it would be clever to do this a few times a year (maybe even a few times a month) but overall I use it as a music player, and with that nothing is added to the ipod.

If it actually comes out with better firmware all the better.

True. Can't really complain about it though, I bought my mini at the beginning of summer last year.

 

[aoi tsuki]

i just ordered the 60gb black one to match my 4gb black nano!!!! im such a sell out

You kids who immediately order iProduct after announcement never cease to amuse me.

i'm still trying to get over 320x240 shows for $2. i'm patient (and busy) enough to wait for the DVD, or catch reruns. Like with iTunes music, it just doesn't add up, at least not for me. i may have to bite the bullet and try one of the videos though, once iTunes 6 finishes installing.

 

[truffleshuffle83]

quit comparing it toa gameboy???? by your standards, the micro should cost less than the sp. neither of which have a 60 GB hard drive....settle down


^^^^ aoi. you have to admit the nano is pure sex. if this video doesnt turn out to be all that great ill sell it on ebay before chritmas where i will be able to get close to what i paid for it. it was too hard to resist

 

[mightynine]

I'm kind of on the fence on the video thing - I don't think it's a big hook for me.

But my question is whether or not this means current iPod models in stores now will see a markdown because of the latest update. I'm going to break eventually and buy one of these damn things.

 

[Matthew86]

Im probably being so thick... but I can't preview the files. Is that just me then?

 

[Mihail]

Damn, between the PS3, Apple's support for Blu-Ray, and now this remote and docking stuff, the whole Sony/Apple/Dell trifecta is really looking to crush Microsoft's home-server and "living room assimilation" dreams.

???
Dell is promoting Microsoft. As long as MS software is being propagated, MS is satisfied. You don't see any Dells going out preloading with Firefox and Google search software, do you?

And you make it sound like those three companies are working together to "crush" Microsoft, but you can bet your ass Sony is feeling the Apple heat. iPods were terrible for Sony's music hardware business, and this new one will hurt PSP sales by a significant amount.

 

[borghe]

You kids who immediately order iProduct after announcement never cease to amuse me.

i'm still trying to get over 320x240 shows for $2. i'm patient (and busy) enough to wait for the DVD, or catch reruns. Like with iTunes music, it just doesn't add up, at least not for me. i may have to bite the bullet and try one of the videos though, once iTunes 6 finishes installing.

as others have said, it will probably be comparable to perfect VHS. Compression shouldn't be an issue at the size and codec they are talking about. this isn't for someone who buys DVD. This is about having last night's episode of lost (legally) on your ipod and watching it at your girlfriend's house.

 

[Juice]

i just ordered the 60gb black one to match my 4gb black nano!!!! im such a sell out

People like you are the reason we aren't seeing that Nano firmware upgrade.. Tool.

***finger is resting on the one-click order button***

 

[shantyman]

You kids who immediately order iProduct after announcement never cease to amuse me.

Fans of Apple products (who see the value in them for themselves) get excited and want them right away. It's just the nature of upgrades.

 

[Aruarian Reflection]

So much for the PSP killer :lol

I feel bad for all the people who were suckered into getting the Nano.