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Official XBOX 360 Madden 2009 Season 2.5 Thread: RROD SCARE US!!
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Classic_Gs
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So I think I lead the league with 11 turnovers in 2 games, 9 of those being INTs, ugggggh!
I remembered something this morning! I bought this piece of junk at Best Buy and bought the replacement plan along with it. So I can just take it in to Best Buy and they'll give me a new one right? I've heard reports about some Best Buys being jerks and making you send it in instead of replacing it right away...is there any truth to them?
What do you guys think?
The current 4th down rules are:
So here's the scenario...
Team A has the ball on their own 38 yard line with just over 2 minutes left in the game and all 3 timeouts. The game is tied (and is a low-scoring game). Team A has a 4th and 1, should they be allowed to go for it?
The current 4th down rules are:
http://www.leaguedaddy.com/leagues/rules/?lid=2210
So here's the scenario...
Team A has the ball on their own 38 yard line with just over 2 minutes left in the game and all 3 timeouts. The game is tied (and is a low-scoring game). Team A has a 4th and 1, should they be allowed to go for it?
I think I'd allow it in the scenario you described above. The risk involved with the decision is enough to warrant allowing going for it on fourth. If you don't get it, there's a pretty solid chance you're losing if the other player handles it right. The risk might even outweigh the reward.
Yeah because if you go to defend the fb dive everything else is open.daw840 said:
I dunno, personally i think at somepoint it should come down to "whats really going on here?" I know so many situations where One team is outplaying the piss out of the other through 3 quarters. However the score might only be 14-0. If its 4th and 3 on their own 40 yard line, sometimes you just HAVE to go for it to get momentum in your favor. I'm not saying by any means cheese, but in all reality both players know the situation.
If you're the guy up, you know you're winning both sides of the ball. It should be in the rights of that other player to make the decision at some point.
I know there is no way to make a rule on this because people would abuse it, but come on...
AirBrian said:
As others have said, that scenario is decent enough in the risk/reward category that I would think about going for it. I think the reason for the rule is that it's often not as hard to pick up a 4th and 1 in Madden as it is in real life.
Going for it in the situation should take some massive cojones. I mean big brass ones. If it's just automatic first down if you call a QB sneak or a FB dive, then we need to enforce the rule.
BigJonsson
Member
Week 5 open yet?
vumpler said:
The only way to defend the FB dive or QB sneak is a goal line defens and jam middle. Even then they usually pick up a couple of yards. As soon as your opponent sees you in goal line defense they will audible into a quick pass for a TD, if they are smart.
edit: Calling a pass or regular HB run would take some major cajones. I think we should just outlaw FB and QB dives in that particular situation. Not in all situations, just 4th down in your own territory situations. But, that might be a little too much micromanaging of games. IDK.
AirBrian said:
In a video game, I'm sure most guys would go for it in that situation...especially with how easy it is to convert with a FB dive or QB sneak. In the NFL, I can't think of any coaches that would go for it there...especially in a low-scoring defensive battle with 3 timeouts left. I, for one, would punt without a second thought because I trust my defense to get me the ball back.....and it's pretty much a guaranteed loss if you don't convert.
That said....according to the rules currently in place, you can only go for it in your own territory if you are losing.
How is it "way too much miromanaging?" Its removing 2 overly high percentage plays on tough situations.mr stroke said:
Yes QB sneak and FB dive can be stopped. I can stop them every time if I know its coming. That's why Daw and my point is so important. QB sneak and FB dive are exponentially harder to defend once the other player knows you can stop them. Because then its just a quick audible to the flats, or deep, or quick slant and its a guaranteed first down then too.
In other words, if you eliminate QB sneak and FB dive from 4th down situations that aren't on the goal line, the risk goes back up to a sim like level.
This is my problem. First of all, except for Switzer, I've never seen a coach go for it in that situation with the game on the line like that. For that reason alone, I like the way the current rules are.woodchuck said:
Second, even if you do go for it, Madden does NOT simulate 4th-1 situations like real life. The D has to worry about the cheap FB dive play and the even cheaper QB sneak plays, which right there throws off any kind of real defensive play calling because you're basically trying to defend the against the other team and the game's cheap plays.
And the FB dive play was not run in this situation, which complicates matters even more. :lol
Birdman02 said:
Birdman02 said:
And here's where I'm going next. I understand Team A's reasoning for going for it, but the current rules forbit it, so this should not have even been an issue in the first place.Birdman02 said:
dammitmattt
Banned
Do we know what the deal is with bonsevan?
Also, I sent a message to you, TCVR0D and Classic Gs. Let's get our games in. There needs to be more two-way communication in this league, guys!
Also, I sent a message to you, TCVR0D and Classic Gs. Let's get our games in. There needs to be more two-way communication in this league, guys!
dammitmattt
Banned
AirBrian said:
Anyone subbing for him want to play me today?
Slo said:
Well, I'm not working this afternoon, so I'm available from noon-2:30 CST (I have to pick my son up at 3:30, so we'd have to be done by then).
Not sure about tonight...my wife mentioned wanting to go out, so I might not be home. Saturday night (anytime after 8:30pm) would probably be the best for me. What's your schedule look like?
Classic_Gs
Member
I ended up selling my copy of Madden for Dead Space.
Fridays are usually bad for me so it's cool. Saturdays I'm usually out all day, but I get on around 6pm pacific time. Sundays I'm kinda in and out of the house, but I should be around for a couple of hours in the afternoon after the Chargers game (which is the same time as the Bears game I believe) and then at night around 7pm PST.AirBrian said:
dammitmattt
Banned
Classic_Gs said:
You don't get it. Don't commit to something and then back out, leaving people hanging. That's weak, and I'm sure you won't be welcomed back into the leagues ever again. You know you could've saved your money, rented Dead Space, beat it in a week, and kept your copy of Madden.
Whatever.