Oh God, my school is drug testing
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IHaveCandy
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Let people put what they want to put into themselves.
dehydratedbabies
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I sympathize with him.
LaserBuddha
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"There's an unwarranted witch hunt being organized, to punish students by disrupting their education and potentially ruining their professional lives, over something that's of questionable criminality in the first place. These students aren't actually causing any trouble, so they have to test their blood for signs that they aren't upholding proper puritan morality in their personal lives."
"Yeah well, it's your fault for doing drugs."
You're a genius!
Ban all caffeine and advil I say.
Ravensmash
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Eh, not saying that kids doing drugs is good or anything....
But neither is forcing pupils to have a random drug test against their will and potentially fucking thei r future up because of punishing a kid who smoked a bit of weed in high school.
There are much better ways to preach about the dangers of drug misuse.
Yes, I am.
Taco_Human
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Private or college or high school or what?
Ela Hadrun
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I really, really, really don't understand why people think testing for drugs is just plain okay to do. I am a big gubment liberal and I am horrified by the invasion of privacy. People just do not have the right to examine your urine. That's really not what in loco parentis means.
LaserBuddha
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But if you haven't done anything wrong then you should have nothing to hide, right?
SeriousApes
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What would the school do to students who test positive? What could they legally do?
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Yeah.... Fuck that. Let them try that my school. No legal grounds for it whatsoever. Unless you signed something that outlined it. Read the fine print before you roll up!!
False. You cant get addicted to weed. You can be a moron and do it before the test, big difference.
False. You cant get addicted to weed. You can be a moron and do it before the test, big difference.
He never said he was a student.
SeriousApes
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Ah. Good point.
Edit: Actually, the email said that all students would be tested. Then he freaked out. I assume he's a student.
I think it's assumed, since he said he got an email saying All Students will be drug tested
The Jason
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Hey now, in 'merica we believe in the freedom to screw people over as a part of business practice, not the freedom to have personal privacy.
Its really a joke. I worked at a job that does pre-employment tests, and yet all the other employees did cocaine or alcohol on the job at one point! The kicker is that the company would hire independent contractors (who smoke weed), and they were far more skilled.
Zoe
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It depends. Private or public? All students or those with extracurriculars?
Damn, you're right.
There was an article in the New York Times a couple days ago about how even middle schools are starting drug testing for athletes.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/s...chools-now-test-for-drugs.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/s...chools-now-test-for-drugs.html?pagewanted=all
FO-totality
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I've only ever heard of drug testing athletes (cause roids, brah)
Though if it is a private school you're probably just SOL.
Though if it is a private school you're probably just SOL.
I know such things have been successfully challenge in the past in the USA. If you're in a private school or you're on a sports team, though, I think the standards are different. Maybe even for certain colleges, not sure.
Still, even if it was possible they were in the right, you should still challenge it and fight it. Because that would drag the scenario out long enough where you will eventually be clean and can take the test in the event the judge says it's OK ;P
And in the event you don't have the money to fight it, STILL say no and see what they do. They can suspend you on suspicion or something, but expel you? We still need more details though.
The fact that gives less dependence than tobacco doesn't mean that does't give it at all.
metalslimer
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My high school drug tested kids and if they came back positive kicked them out until they received counseling. My question is how the hell doing something like smoking weed impacts them at all. By the way this was a public school. Really is just a dumb witch hunt to make schools feel better about themselves when they aren't accomplishing shit. Oh and this was for everyone not just people in extras
Hale-XF11
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from that article:
In the 2004-5 school year, an estimated 14 percent of public school districts conducted some form of random drug testing, according to a Department of Education report. But middle school testing is not thoroughly tracked by officials.
What the hell? Isn't this a violation of the 4th amendment to the U.S. Constitution?
Rebel Leader
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Zoe
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LaserBuddha
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1. If they were trying to deal with a tangible problem with students' performance, it wouldn't require a school-wide urine test.
2. This isn't Minority Report, we don't go after people for something that could happen in the future, especially when...
3. A hit to your performance in school impacts you, not someone else. So we need to punish people for punishing themselves?
I agree with this BUT personally for me I think that should be up to an employer to set their own standards of employee conduct. As stupid as the policy would be I'd personally have less sympathy.
Still, my guess is this will be a non-issue even if he fails a drug test.
Do your research. Only way you can get addicted to weed is psychically and you really gotta be a dumbass/have an extremely addictive personality to let that happen.
Having drugs on campus is an entire different issue, though I am sure there are plenty that will insist that it is harmless also.
Earthstrike
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Hmm, does this depend on the kind of test?
Enter The 36 Chambers
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I know people who say theyre "addicted". Theyre not, they just like smoking alot and use that to try justify it. Personally i smoke cigaretes and have never felt a urge to smoke weed like i do for cigarettes. So i dont believe people can get addicted.
I believe people can think theyre addicted, but theres no addiction possible. You body cant want marijuana.
LaserBuddha
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Employee conduct means their conduct as an employee, which still makes it none of their business unless the person is coming to work stoned or drunk.
LaserBuddha
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Ok!
Skip on the day they test? Or if you do somehow get tested, stop smoking immediately, and if the results come back positive claim it was a false positive and demand a retest and hope its out of your system by then. Also, if you go to public school they shouldn't be able to year you at all unless you're in a voluntary extracurricular.
Hale-XF11
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Wow, that's messed up. Thanks for catching that.
So sad to see our rights slowly but surely being eroded like this. This is just one step towards more erosion of our right to privacy, because the same people who create these laws are always looking to create even more laws just like it.
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