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[Nightbird]

Ehm I think it was a pretty nice callback when Fujitora said it was a Gamble. Didn't the character got introduced in a casino where he won a Gamble after another despite being blind?

I think him saying that it was a Gamble was another way of saying that he knew it was going to work

 

[ffdgh]

Yeah Riku could be mad but he(and others) did have to deal with Doflamingo's crap for 10 freaking years and hurting his own citizens via parasite lol. Pretty sure he's glad it's over more than anyone else.

 

[MSMrRound]

At least now we know what her powers are --- aging.

Uhh...I think a lot of us already know about her powers since the Sabaody arc...

 

[everyday math]

Fuji is a true bro. Skyrocketed to being one of my favorite characters in OP.

 

[TheGreatDirector]

Ehm I think it was a pretty nice callback when Fujitora said it was a Gamble. Didn't the character got introduced in a casino where he won a Gamble after another despite being blind?

I think him saying that it was a Gamble was another way of saying that he knew it was going to work

It's one of the key parts to his character. He's impartial in the way his justice is carried out. He bypasses the opinions of his superiors. At the same time, he doesn't turn a blind eye to the actions of criminals and cheaters regardless of their position. He instead gambles everything on the decisions he chooses to make. He followed his orders to assist Doflamingo and never once raised a hand against him. He gambled on Luffy and Law taking Doflamingo out from the moment he noticed them.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Law and Luffy better GTFO Dressrosa before they have to deal with Fujitora.

 

[Kornflayx]

I think I'm ready to reread One Piece again. Just read the first chapter again and it's still the best introduction to OP one can hope for. And maybe the best OP chapter ever. It had everything and pumps me up every time. Just perfect.

 

[everyday math]

Law and Luffy better GTFO Dressrosa before they have to deal with Fujitora.

From they way I read it. Sounds like he's telling the marines to fuck off. Why would he just kill the Islands saviors?

"A vow to resolve" could mean that yes to settle his dispute he would kill them. Or he's firmly settled on his coarse of action to leave the Marines.

 

[Cloud Strife]

Pretty sure no transmissions could be made when Birdcage began. Assuming Fuji knew about Birdcage to begin with, I think it's too much to assume he could have directly exposed him without some concrete evidence of villany which Doflamingo showed as soon as he started Birdcage.

 

[Rebel Leader]

Law and Luffy better GTFO Dressrosa before they have to deal with Fujitora.

Fujitora will not go after the strawhats.

I think he told Akanu to go fuck him self

 

[Lunar15]

I interpreted Fujitora's last line as him saying he's fine with not being part of the marines.

 

[Zeppu]

Yeah, killing Shanks is Final villain type stuff. I think Shanks will be kille dby the end of the series, but it'll be Blackbeard who does it. No chance in hell does Kid do it

The point of the Kid alliance going after Shanks is to showcase Shank's power. How does a one handed man without a devil with what appear to be a handful of crewmates stand equal with the monsters that are the rest of the yonkou?

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Doffy killed X Drake's father. Must be someone we've seen get killed. Given the Spanish theme with Diez Drake, I'm gonna say that he's Corazon's son.
n/m my memory sucks

 

[GaimeGuy]

The translation is terrible. We can't tell if he means he'd love to capture luffy and law, or he's happy to be turned away from marine facilities for refusing to capture pirates who upheld justice where the marines would not.
I think it's the latter though

 

[Rebel Leader]

The translation is terrible. We can't tell if he means he'd love to capture luffy and law, or he's happy to be turned away from marine facilities for refusing to capture pirates who upheld justice where the marines would not.
I think it's the latter though

Fujitora is alot like smoker so I also place my bet on the latter

 

[Qurupeke]

The translation is terrible. We can't tell if he means he'd love to capture luffy and law, or he's happy to be turned away from marine facilities for refusing to capture pirates who upheld justice where the marines would not.
I think it's the latter though

I think that it's not a translation mistake. Oda just left Fujitora's answer vague as a cliffhanger.

 

[Cloud Strife]

The point of the Kid alliance going after Shanks is to showcase Shank's power. How does a one handed man without a devil with what appear to be a handful of crewmates stand equal with the monsters that are the rest of the yonkou?

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Doffy killed X Drake's father. Must be someone we've seen get killed. Given the Spanish theme with Diez Drake, I'm gonna say that he's Corazon's son.

Wait, that Diez what Corazaon's son? Drake was 19 during the Corasan flashback...and the pirate Barrels was his father.

 

[everyday math]

Aokiji joining Blackbeard....didn't see that coming.

 

[Aaronrules380]

The point of the Kid alliance going after Shanks is to showcase Shank's power. How does a one handed man without a devil with what appear to be a handful of crewmates stand equal with the monsters that are the rest of the yonkou?

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Doffy killed X Drake's father. Must be someone we've seen get killed. Given the Spanish theme with Diez Drake, I'm gonna say that he's Corazon's son.

Agreed. Plus I feel like it'll be to reinforce the strength of the Yonkou, as well as make Luffy look more impressive for succeeding. It'd be pretty lame if the yonkou all just lost to the supernova after all the buildup.

Also, Drake's father was the pirate in the Corazon flashback who had the Op Op fruit. Hell, we even saw Drake in that Flashback (he was Dorry)

 

[cw_sasuke]

Heh...some of you guys are really underestimating the Red-Hair Pirates....this should be fun :-D

Luffy and Law needed all the help in the World to take down DoFla...and Kidd and Co. are supposed to take down Shanks ? They are in for a big surprise. Oda is a genius so he will likely be able to show it with Kidd and Co. somehow save faces if he has further plans for them...but this fight will more showcase why Shanks is a Yonkou to begin with.

Hell i could imagine the fight ending with Kidd and Co. somehow joining the Red Hair Pirates lol. Dude has mad social skills and is charismatic as fuck !!

 

[Aaronrules380]

Aokiji joining Blackbeard....didn't see that coming.

It's been known for over a year though since we had the conversation between Burgess and BB over the denden mushi at the Colluseum

 

[Rebel Leader]

Aokiji joining Blackbeard....didn't see that coming.

We knew about this along time ago

 

[Grexeno]

It's been known for over a year though since we had the conversation between Burgess and BB over the denden mushi at the Colluseum

It most definitely has not been known, only theorized.

 

[everyday math]

Heh...some of you guys are really underestimating the Red-Hair Pirates....this should be fun :-D

God I hope he isn't killed. Seems kinda anticlimatic to me.

We knew about this along time ago

Really? Must've forgot.

 

[Cloud Strife]

It's been known for over a year though since we had the conversation between Burgess and BB over the denden mushi at the Colluseum

I think a lot of people (me included) totally forgot this happened.

 

[Aaronrules380]

It most definitely has not been known, only theorized.

I feel like that conversation made it pretty clear they were collaborating. We didn't really learn anything new about it this chapter, not even the extent to which their collaboration is (Are they just allied? Is Aokiji being considered a part of BB's crew?"

 

[NHarmonic.]

It's been known for over a year though since we had the conversation between Burgess and BB over the denden mushi at the Colluseum

It wasn't confirmed at all, and it was easy to miss. Don't be so surprised we're not up to date with everything.

 

[Cloud Strife]

It most definitely has not been known, only theorized.

Well Blackbeard (about Kuzan) said to Jesus that "it's just like Shiliew" implying a similar level of cooperation.

 

[Aaronrules380]

It wasn't confirmed at all, and it was easy to miss. Don't be so surprised we're not up to date with everything.

I mean, it wasn't explicitly confirmed, but there was no other way to really interpret that conversation. I don't think everything needs to be spelled out directly to be considered confirmed

 

[Frozenprince]

It's obviously just him playing Blackbeard anyway, what with his "You know me, Smoker, trust me" speech.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

We knew Kuzan was working with BB for a good while now.

 

[Cloud Strife]

Any theories on Kaido's Zoan?

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Hope it isn't dragon. That would be pretty lame.

 

[Frozenprince]

Any theories on Kaido's Zoan?

I'm gonna say Chinese Dragon.

It's what makes Kin'emon's kid so important.

Personally I think it'd be cooler if he was something stupidly simple like a Rhino. Or maybe has a Paramecia that gives him the traits of animals without taking on their form.

 

[cw_sasuke]

God I hope he isn't killed. Seems kinda anticlimatic to me.

I dont think Oda can or will justify killing off Shanks, there isnt much gained from him being dead...also it would have quite the negative impact on Luffy.

 

[Frozenprince]

I dont think Oda can or will justify killing off Shanks, there isnt much gained from him being dead...also it would have quite the negative impact on Luffy.

Everybody keeps saying he'll die.

Honestly I think Oda subverts the Obi-Wan trope and just has him pass the mantle of Yonkou/King of Pirates after he proves he's the equal of Gold Rodger and retire.

 

[TheGreatDirector]

Shanks can't die until Luffy reunites with him and gives back the strawhat.

 

[cw_sasuke]

Everybody keeps saying he'll die.

Honestly I think Oda subverts the Obi-Wan trope and just has him pass the mantle of Yonkou/King of Pirates after he proves he's the equal of Gold Rodger and retire.

Well im not saying he will die xD
Dont think OP is that kind of story where Oda has to keep killing off people to get across a point - Ace/WB situation was an exception.

I hate to bring up this argument ....but in addition i think Shanks is too popular for him to get killed. I know Ace was very popular as well....but Oda knew that Sabo would replace him post time skip. I just cant see the same happening with Shanks....

 

[LonelyGreyWolf]

Didn't Bonney was captured by the Marines? Can't remember who...
At least now we know what her powers are --- aging.

We've known this for years ;b

In fact, iirc, it was revealed in one of the very first panels we even see her in. It's also the basis for that fan theory that Bonney is keeping the five elders of the World Government from aging.

 

[Aaronrules380]

Well im not saying he will die xD
Dont think OP is that kind of story where Oda has to keep killing off people to get across a point - Ace/WB situation was an exception.

I hate to bring up this argument ....but in addition i think Shanks is too popular for him to get killed. I know Ace was very popular as well....but Oda knew that Sabo would replace him post time skip. I just cant see the same happening with Shanks....

I think Shanks will be killed by BB, but only near the end of the series to help elevate BB as the final villain and make the final battle even more personal for Luffy. Oda won't kill him off randomly, it'll be to help advance the narrative, just like with Ace and WB

 

[Lunar15]

I think Shanks'll live, but Luffy's coming to defend him, no questions asked.

Here's my theory of the Yonkou:

Luffy/Law Alliance teams up with Big Mom -> They fight Kaido, Big Mom & Kidou's armies are depleted

Kidd Alliance goes after Shanks, Luffy steps in, but Shanks's group is depleted.

Blackbeard, now having no significant competition from any one Yonkou, takes advantage of the situation and, having harvested the devil fruits to power his army, he makes a move on One Piece.

Of course, this can have multiple variations, it's 100% speculation, but I think the overall goal here is still that all of the Yonkou will be out of commission and relatively unable to stop Blackbeard from going after One Piece. We already know that Blackbeard is patient, cunning, and opportunist. In every situation, we've seen him play other groups against each other in order to take advantage of the chaos. I also think that one of the reasons none of the Yonkou are constantly going after One Piece is because they know the other Yonkou would make a move.

 

[Grexeno]

Every time someone says that Luffy is going to team up/be friendly with Big Mom, I slam my head through a wall.

 

[Aaronrules380]

I think Shanks'll live, but Luffy's coming to defend him, no questions asked.

Here's my theory of the Yonkou:

Luffy/Law Alliance teams up with Big Mom -> They fight Kaido, Big Mom & Kidou's armies are depleted

Kidd Alliance goes after Shanks, Luffy steps in, but Shanks's group is depleted.

Blackbeard, now having no significant competition from any one Yonkou, takes advantage of the situation and, having harvested the devil fruits to power his army, he makes a move on One Piece.

Of course, this can have multiple variations, it's 100% speculation, but I think the overall goal here is still that all of the Yonkou will be out of commission and relatively unable to stop Blackbeard from going after One Piece.

I can't see Luffy going out of his way to defend Shanks. Hell, Luffy only went after Ace once he knew an execution date was sent, he wasn't worried at first when he just heard Ace was captured

 

[LonelyGreyWolf]

Every time someone says that Luffy is going to team up/be friendly with Big Mom, I slam my head through a wall.

Damn, that's gotta hurt. And you'd also have to spend all day repairing walls.

 

[Grexeno]

Damn, that's gotta hurt. And you'd also have to spend all day repairing walls.

Yes, it's a serious drain on my wallet.

 

[Lunar15]

I can't see Luffy going out of his way to defend Shanks. Hell, Luffy only went after Ace once he knew an execution date was sent, he wasn't worried at first when he just heard Ace was captured

I'm not exactly positive he would either, it's just that's one of the variations in my mind.

The more pressing point is that somehow all of the Yonkou get taken out of the picture or are significantly weakened, opening it up for Blackbeard to make a move on One Piece.

Add in the fact that I think Luffy needs to meet shanks, so either he meets him in the aftermath of a faceoff or during it. Also complicating this is that I think Shanks and Blackbeard will meet at some point. They have a history, I think it'll need to be discussed.

On Big Mom: He doesn't have to ally with Big Mom, although I think it's going to happen. For some reason I don't get a tone that they're supposed to be enemies. At first, yeah, but I think they find a common enemy in Kaido.

But yeah, he could just as easily fight both Big Mom and Kaido.

 

[Cloud Strife]

I think Shanks'll live, but Luffy's coming to defend him, no questions asked.

Here's my theory of the Yonkou:

Luffy/Law Alliance teams up with Big Mom -> They fight Kaido, Big Mom & Kidou's armies are depleted

Kidd Alliance goes after Shanks, Luffy steps in, but Shanks's group is depleted.

Blackbeard, now having no significant competition from any one Yonkou, takes advantage of the situation and, having harvested the devil fruits to power his army, he makes a move on One Piece.

Of course, this can have multiple variations, it's 100% speculation, but I think the overall goal here is still that all of the Yonkou will be out of commission and relatively unable to stop Blackbeard from going after One Piece. We already know that Blackbeard is patient, cunning, and opportunist. In every situation, we've seen him play other groups against each other in order to take advantage of the chaos. I also think that one of the reasons none of the Yonkou are constantly going after One Piece is because they know the other Yonkou would make a move.

Great theory, and I agree with BB being the final villain, but it's also hard to predict what will happen because we still have the World Government and the Great Weapons to deal with later on.

I think One Piece is definitely linked to the World Government and the Void Century in some way so I can also see the World Government playing a role in the final segments of the series. Again, no idea how.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Is it me or does That kaidou silhouette ... thing ... resemble the weird massive thing we saw in the fog during Thriller Bark?

 

[Laz-E-Boy]

I wonder if Blackbeard has anything to do with the Kidd/Apoo/Hawkins alliance, like he suggested to Kidd or something to recruit some people for an alliance and promised he would help if the alliance was formed. I find it really hard to believe that Kidd and co can do anything significant to Shanks by themselves.

 

[Cloud Strife]

I'm gonna say Chinese Dragon.

It's what makes Kin'emon's kid so important.

Personally I think it'd be cooler if he was something stupidly simple like a Rhino. Or maybe has a Paramecia that gives him the traits of animals without taking on their form.

I think it'll definitely be a mythical or ancient Zoan because of his epithet. Gotta be something ridiculous to be the King of Beasts.

A dragon would be cool, and yeah we still don't know what importance Momo has with Kaido. Did Doffy want Momo before or after he ate the Smile fruit? If before, then I don't think the dragon thing is as important. Maybe Momo is some kind of prince or something.

 

[Frozenprince]

I wonder if Blackbeard has anything to do with the Kidd/Apoo/Hawkins alliance, like he suggested to Kidd or something to recruit some people for an alliance and promised he would help if the alliance was formed. I find it really hard to believe that Kidd and co can do anything significant to Shanks by themselves.

Eh. It's been shown that Kid is the amoral version of Luffy so it makes sense he'd have the same thought process in getting to One Piece.