Not seeing it. However, I also completely forgot about that mysterious figure.
To me, what we saw with Kaidou was a japanese castle. You could even see the snow covered japanese style trees.
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One Piece Manga |OT| ZEHAHAHAHA! The Name of this Age is Blackbeard!
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Not seeing it. However, I also completely forgot about that mysterious figure.
To me, what we saw with Kaidou was a japanese castle. You could even see the snow covered japanese style trees.
Frozenprince
Banned
Well, while I agree with you, Oda has said stuff like "they're going to fishman island!" only for the exact opposite of that to happen.
Not just this...i dont think Luffy and the Strawhats would make a big difference if the enemy is able to take out Shanks anyway. I think its likelier that Shanks saves Luffys ass once more down the line, maybe sacrificing his life this time...who knows.
Of course if at all this would be something happening near the end of the Manga...but i still dont think Shanks will have to die for Luffy to have enough motivation to reach Raftel. Gold Roger also didnt need some uber revenge motivation to rule the seas...i wanna see BB vs. Strawhats more as a battle of different philosophies and freedom instead of it being fueled just by rage because he took out someone dear to Luffy before.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Yep. Knew it. Akainu and the Gorosei don't get along at all. But Aokiji is actually working with Blackbeard? Megatons all over this chapter.
But what happened to Capone? First time we've seen him since he up and disappeared.
And I think I was right - this is the last straw. Shichibukai are going to be dissolved, Marines are splitting from the WG. This chapter was worth the weakness of Dressrosa as a whole. Even if Akainu is pissed at Fujitora it seems like he is also pissed at the shichibukai and Gorosei.
But what happened to Capone? First time we've seen him since he up and disappeared.
And I think I was right - this is the last straw. Shichibukai are going to be dissolved, Marines are splitting from the WG. This chapter was worth the weakness of Dressrosa as a whole. Even if Akainu is pissed at Fujitora it seems like he is also pissed at the shichibukai and Gorosei.
Would actually make sense, because we know that Kaido has beef with Moria. He just wants to keep tabs on him
TheGreatDirector
Banned
Akainu, at least from my impressions, is someone who wants to maintain a specific image and standard for the Marines. He won't accept cowardice or pacifism as an answer. He demands that Marines are shown to be a powerful and mighty force. Moving the Marine base into the New World rather than rebuilding the one in Paradise is basically a show of strength, as is the world wide draft of Marines that got the new admirals. Though he is a dog of the government, he refuses to be led astray and toyed with by people who don't follow his brand of justice.
Cloud Strife
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Hmm...having a hard time time seeing him stronger than luffy and law for that matter. Probably will be proved wrong when he does something.
J
Jpop
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Yes there is. Shanks could stand toe to toe with Whitebeard and forced the entirety of the Marines + Blackbeard and Co to stand down.
Erm...what ? I dont think any of the Supernovas is at Luffys Level post Rayleigh training - this might have been the case when they first met...but now ?
Even so, him being stronger than Luffy wouldnt mean much since Shanks alone is a level above that. So far Oda hasnt really had time to hype up Shanks crew and their feats...this will change very soon once they start attacking him. I dont really see how a power argument puts Kidd and Co. in a better position against Shanks.
Shanks clashed weapons easily with Whitebeard. Swordfighting skills more or less on par with Mihawk. Stopped Kaidou from attacking Whitebeard pre-war and ended the War with his arrival later.
Shanks is by far the most impressive Yonkou with his relative small crew that dont rely on Devilfruits. Kidd and Co. are in for a big suprise once they challenge them...i totally expect another Ace vs. BB situation when Ace realized he screwed up and BB Darkness fruit is the worst matchup for his Logia.
Im not saying its impossible...but it doesnt sound likely at all. Shanks is on a different level.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Yes, Kidd had a higher bounty then Luffy when introduced because he would typically slaughter civilians. A lot of them.
igordennis
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Wow great chapter. These worlds reactions chapters are always the best. Really cool to see how the strawhats actions affect the world. Fujitora is redeemed, Kuzan is plotting something (i hope)and Akainu is just taking jabs like no other (and hes pissed). Oda's now setting the stage for the next arc and i think this one will be epic.
More Fun To Compute
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Kidd has the potential to be Enel 2.0 since both are electro-magnetism type powers some very different abilities could be written for him. His fruit is similar to Magneto.
For Kaido it's hard to guess accurately what sort of mythical creature he might be inspired by. Could be something funny that just happens to be really powerful or it could be one of the most famous mythicacreatures/beings. Since he's hanging around in the cold and he might be able to transform into different beasts then I guess Loki.
For Kaido it's hard to guess accurately what sort of mythical creature he might be inspired by. Could be something funny that just happens to be really powerful or it could be one of the most famous mythicacreatures/beings. Since he's hanging around in the cold and he might be able to transform into different beasts then I guess Loki.
Shiiit I didn't know that but it makes sense. Not sure if Kaido will be the main antagonist there but I could see it happening. This will also probably conclude many stories right now like Kinemon, Smilies, maybe the Law-Luffy alliance for now too.
Tathanen
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I really thought that shadow was literally Kaido. Like he was this big round guy with these two little horns. Even after the post in here pointing out the similarity to the Japanese castle I was like "oh are you saying his horns look like that castle." Then on further examination it became clear that it was just a shadow of a friggin building. :|
Cloud Strife
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Well we know that Kinemon and Momo know who Kaidou is, if you go back to pre-Dressrossa when they're sailing there. Their reaction suggests a connection to Wano.
Wow talk about a blast from the past. I had completely forgotten about that
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
There was always a theory about that thing outside of Thriller Bark being Kaidou. Never thought much of it, though. I though that huge thing was always just some huge thing. People started thinking it was Kaidou because it was never explained and he was called The Strongest Beast in the World, but I don't even know how you would fight something that big.
Pegosaurus
Banned
I don't think the Kidd-Hawkins-Apoo alliance will be able to take down Shanks.
Shanks' main crew (~8 or 9 people from what we've seen) were enough to stop the war. Hell, even Benn Beckmann himself was able to make Kizaru back off during the War of the Best.
Unless Kid, Hawkins, and Apoo are all at marine admiral strength level, I don't think they can take down Shanks, who's implied to be equal or greater than admiral level, as well as the rest of his crew who are probably all at admiral level.
I think their alliance will probably do some damage to Shanks' crew though, at least enough that Luffy will hear about it.
Also, for all of you that say Shanks has a small crew, we only ever see the core members. I'm pretty sure there are more people in his crew.
I'm also interested in what the Whitebeard (Phoenix??) Pirates are up to these days. Maybe Luffy will find them and they'll team up or something.
edit: Is Kaidou's epithet "Hundred Beast" or "Strongest Beast in the World"? I've seen it both ways.
Shanks' main crew (~8 or 9 people from what we've seen) were enough to stop the war. Hell, even Benn Beckmann himself was able to make Kizaru back off during the War of the Best.
Unless Kid, Hawkins, and Apoo are all at marine admiral strength level, I don't think they can take down Shanks, who's implied to be equal or greater than admiral level, as well as the rest of his crew who are probably all at admiral level.
I think their alliance will probably do some damage to Shanks' crew though, at least enough that Luffy will hear about it.
Also, for all of you that say Shanks has a small crew, we only ever see the core members. I'm pretty sure there are more people in his crew.
I'm also interested in what the Whitebeard (Phoenix??) Pirates are up to these days. Maybe Luffy will find them and they'll team up or something.
edit: Is Kaidou's epithet "Hundred Beast" or "Strongest Beast in the World"? I've seen it both ways.
Frozenprince
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I'm willing to bet those creatures are a big part of the whole ancient weapons thing.
Also man, that panel makes me realize it's been nearly 100 Chapters since the last 45 degrees joke!
More Fun To Compute
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Law called him the strongest beast in the world before Dressrosa but Hundred Beast is a translation of his common title. 100 beasts might be a mistranslation or a pun.
They could be awakened Devil Fruit users that lost all means of rational thought so they just wander the Florian Triangle aimlessly (Maybe giants that ate zoan fruits? would explain their size), kind of like how the only thought of the Awakened Zoans in Impel Down don't do anything other than prevent inmates from escaping.
Kaido could just be the only awakaned Zoan user capable of actual rational thought, since the three previous examples haven't particularly showed any.
Kaido could just be the only awakaned Zoan user capable of actual rational thought, since the three previous examples haven't particularly showed any.
BobTheFork
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I think he's going after Luffy and Law. They are still pirates. Smoker got mad at the Gov. trying to save face and let luffy have his moment but he still tried to catch him later.
Fuji is going to get exactly what he wants, honesty and change in the Marines and two pirate heads on his wall.
Where did he say that?
Either way I'm hype. Although I want Bepo to be in the next arc.
Stilts.
I honestly forget about the water weakness because it's been awhile since it actually was a thing.
Aaronrules380
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Ever since the end of Marineford it's been heavily implied that there will be an arc AFTER Luffy gets to Raftel and gets the One Piece
Imperial Bishop
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Holy fuck! THIS CHAPTER!
So many big players are making their move!
Ladies and gentlemen, the New World starts now!
So many big players are making their move!
Ladies and gentlemen, the New World starts now!
Aaronrules380
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Either that or Law made an alliance with him before Luffy and he's there to help out Sanji and the others
Raonak
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I could definitely see that happening lol. I always imagine all the supernovas will become allied with luffy for the final war.
gundamkyoukai
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There is something that bothers me since forever:
1) Shanks said BB injured him and that's why he has that scar. But I've been reading the mangá from the begining and he had that scar since Luffy was a little kid.
2) That implies he fought BB when he had both arms AND BB hadn't eaten his fruit.
In what kind of scenario a guy that, at the moment, wasn't even that relevant at WB crew, could've have had a fight with Shanks AND injured him, with no fruit power at all?
There is either some detail I'm not remembering or Oda dropped the ball on the scar thing.
1) Shanks said BB injured him and that's why he has that scar. But I've been reading the mangá from the begining and he had that scar since Luffy was a little kid.
2) That implies he fought BB when he had both arms AND BB hadn't eaten his fruit.
In what kind of scenario a guy that, at the moment, wasn't even that relevant at WB crew, could've have had a fight with Shanks AND injured him, with no fruit power at all?
There is either some detail I'm not remembering or Oda dropped the ball on the scar thing.
Blackbeard is that strong. He also purposely laid low in Whitebeard's crew until he got the fruit he was looking for then bolted.
It was clear that he only defeated Ace because of his powers, I just can't se him injuring Shanks... Or maybe he kind of cheated, who knows...
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
I might be remembering wrong but didn't Shanks say he was caught off guard by Blackbeard?
In either case I can totally see Blackbeard doing that kind of damage to Shanks. We don't even know how strong Shanks even was that many years ago. Sure, he beat some random bandits but almost died from a smaller sea monster that Luffy would've been able to one hit ko today.
In either case I can totally see Blackbeard doing that kind of damage to Shanks. We don't even know how strong Shanks even was that many years ago. Sure, he beat some random bandits but almost died from a smaller sea monster that Luffy would've been able to one hit ko today.
Sequence Six
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Plus, as chummy as they could be, Whitebeard and Shanks were separate entities. They were only allies when their interests overlapped. The two of them and/or their crews getting into skirmishes and brawls is completely believable.
TheGreatDirector
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No. Shanks straight up said Blackbeard didn't sneak up on him and he got it in a direct fight.
Luffy beat that thing in one hit as soon as he set sail, Shanks lost his arm on purpose. He tells Whitebeard when he visits the Moby Dick.
And yea, BB's been hiding his strength the whole way, otherwise he never would have been able to give Shanks that scar.
whatsinaname
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Every chapter between arcs I keep an eye out for a Best Character sighting. And I get nothing. -_-
MetroidPrimeRib
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fujitora isn't going to quit the marines. he is probably happy he isn't allowed to dock at any marine facility since that means he wont have to report to his superiors. he will likely go from island to island doing what he wants.
nelsonroyale
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I don't think it is that to be honest. The manga has shown that Blackbeard has also been growing in strength since the beginning. For instance Luffy really hurt him when he hit him in Impel Down. He clearly beat Ace because his fruit had an advantage, not because he was necessarily he would be stronger versus all other oponents.
The main thing that has been emphasised by people like WB, is that he is underhanded and sneaky. I think he probably dealt it by treachory. Pre-time skip BB outright said it wasn't time to face Shanks, whereas Shanks confidently challenged him. BB is strong but he is kind of the Anti-Luffy. Not that straight forward, an under handed cheat.
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