Cloud Strife
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Someone ABOVE the elder stars?? Or does he mean the world nobles?
Someone ABOVE the elder stars?? Or does he mean the world nobles?
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One Piece Manga |OT| ZEHAHAHAHA! The Name of this Age is Blackbeard!
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Probably missing something, but what points out to it being Mom's ship? Those stripes on the fences?
Aaronrules380
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There's that and the flag we see in the panel before is Big Mom's flag
NHarmonic.
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Oh god this is so exciting, great chapter. Loved akainu's shit talk against the gorousei lol.
AgentLampshade
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I love that Bonney simply appears to be drifting around the New World stealing pizza whilst the rest of the Worst Generation are allying/opposing the Yonko.
NHarmonic.
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Also, Kuzan confirmed as part of Blackbeard's crew / alliance.
Cloud Strife
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Why, though? Maybe he thinks Blackbeard is the ticket to defeating the World Gov.?
Aaronrules380
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We already knew they were working together though
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Seeing Smoker still trying to improve the marines/succeeding through talking to Fujitora was nice. It would be great if by the end of the series Fujitora ends up becoming the Fleet Admiral. I almost forgot CP0 was on the island. I wonder if they and Fujitora will make a move together against the Straw Hats and Law or if CP0 will leave now that Doflamingo was dealt with.
All the reactions/updates on different characters was nice of course. I'm glad to see Bonney got out of custody too (I was disappointed originally how the only female rookie captain got captured), although it would have been nice to see how she did it.
Seeing all these rookies/groups in alliances now, I guess the Law and Luffy alliance is going to last a while longer or at least until Kaidou is dealt with.
Seeing Smoker still trying to improve the marines/succeeding through talking to Fujitora was nice. It would be great if by the end of the series Fujitora ends up becoming the Fleet Admiral. I almost forgot CP0 was on the island. I wonder if they and Fujitora will make a move together against the Straw Hats and Law or if CP0 will leave now that Doflamingo was dealt with.
All the reactions/updates on different characters was nice of course. I'm glad to see Bonney got out of custody too (I was disappointed originally how the only female rookie captain got captured), although it would have been nice to see how she did it.
Seeing all these rookies/groups in alliances now, I guess the Law and Luffy alliance is going to last a while longer or at least until Kaidou is dealt with.
That's better.
Yeah, it's likely the one above the Five Elder Stars are the Celestial Dragons.
Seeing Sakazuki call them out was great though.
We got a Supernova update! Bonney is going around the New World stealing pizza thanks to her age powers. Urouge is up in the sky getting a mysterious visitor. Capone seems to be part of Big Mom's crew now (or if Aohige's translation is correct, an ally of the Straw Hats & Law). The Kid/Hawkins/Apoo alliance is going after Shanks (and Killer is able to slurp noodles through his mask). Drake is still serving Kaido, and we got a peek of his location.
The last scene makes more sense too. It sounds like Issho will quit the Marines too. This whole arc will tear the world apart.
CP0's left the island before the Bird Cage went up. Otherwise we would have seen them fighting.
Yeah, it's likely the one above the Five Elder Stars are the Celestial Dragons.
Seeing Sakazuki call them out was great though.
We got a Supernova update! Bonney is going around the New World stealing pizza thanks to her age powers. Urouge is up in the sky getting a mysterious visitor. Capone seems to be part of Big Mom's crew now (or if Aohige's translation is correct, an ally of the Straw Hats & Law). The Kid/Hawkins/Apoo alliance is going after Shanks (and Killer is able to slurp noodles through his mask). Drake is still serving Kaido, and we got a peek of his location.
The last scene makes more sense too. It sounds like Issho will quit the Marines too. This whole arc will tear the world apart.
CP0's left the island before the Bird Cage went up. Otherwise we would have seen them fighting.
NHarmonic.
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It's weird. Probably he wants to "poison" BB from the inside, and make his menace weaker, tbh. The guy is clearly not the answer to the problems of the world...
Aaronrules380
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Garp
That's what I figured, but I wasn't positive.
Also, I've got a feeling X Drake is going to ally with Luffy and Law. He's probably going undercover in Kaido's ranks to exact revenge.
I think you guys are reading a bit too much into the "above the gorosei" line. Sakazuki is just saying that the Gorosei are as much of a face as the Navy is in relation to the Celestial Dragons. It's an insult. They're discussing the incident where Doflamingo fooled everyone by saying he stepped down whereas in reality he never did. Sakazuki is frustrated because he got played, but when the Gorosei tell him to watch his tounge, he insults them by saying even they didn't know what was going on.
TheGreatDirector
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I'm guessing their must be a council for the Celestial Dragons with a possible leader.
Also, I don't see Fujitora quitting the Marines. He wants to change the world government from the inside.
Also, I don't see Fujitora quitting the Marines. He wants to change the world government from the inside.
I think Drake being part of Kaidou's group was just a fan theory before, right? Glad to see the hints Oda dropped were true. It's crazy how often Kaidou's name drops and we still haven't seen anything of him or his reaction to this.
Kuzan being part of Blackbeard's group was a shocker to me; I didn't know about it or at least do not remember something like this being teased, you guys seem better with that. And now Fujitora seems to leave the Marine as well, dude has balls of steel.
So, what is Capone's role? Is he part of Law's alliance?
Kuzan being part of Blackbeard's group was a shocker to me; I didn't know about it or at least do not remember something like this being teased, you guys seem better with that. And now Fujitora seems to leave the Marine as well, dude has balls of steel.
So, what is Capone's role? Is he part of Law's alliance?
I'm wondering who showed up to see Urogue.
Also, it looks like Capone is just after Caesar. I don't think he's part of the Luffy-Law alliance.
Drake joining up with Kaido was outright confirmed at the end of Caribou's cover-story.
Also, it looks like Capone is just after Caesar. I don't think he's part of the Luffy-Law alliance.
Yeah, which is also why Oda made the Gorosei stress that the Navy is just the frontline of the Governent I think. The navy has lost Kuzan, Garp, Sengoku and Fujitora on top of a part of their (or now all?) warlords. Which makes it seem there is quite the power imbalance, with factions like the revolutionaries, emperors, supernovas etc. all opposing them.
Also, I think we have yet to see the prominent/powerful celestial dragons. With this much power, they are bound to have figures amongst them that aren't as useless as those shown so far.
Ah, yes, the flag makes it absolutely clear.
NHarmonic.
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Capone is apparently with Big Mom.
The wild card is Jewelery Bonney. Maybe she does join the strawhats later...
Aaronrules380
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So reading the MS translation, when Akainu says "So am I to believe that it was a direct order from people above all of you", to me it seemed more sarcastic and accusatory than an indication that there are actually people above the Gorosei. It seemed like he was saying that as they're the highest power in the WG, the order could only have come from them, unless there was some secret power even higher than them He was basically pointing out they had to be the ones who went along with Doflamingo's plan
She got captured by Blackbeard, and then got taken in by Akainu. And then she escaped offscreen and has been doing her own thing since the timeskip.
NHarmonic.
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Or they released her after she used her powers on someone from the WG... e_e
BobTheFork
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Escaped? I assumed she was released for some reason we don't know yet.
You really think Sakazuki would let a pirate go?
Oda never disappoints in this regard.
The final page of this chapter is so incredibly badass. Fujitora is on fucking fire. "If our credibility was compromised by the admission a single mistake, then it never existed in the first place."
I didn't get Fujitora quitting from that scene. Plus there's nothing stopping Fujitora from going after Luffy and Law right now so he would still be following Akainu's orders (these arcs usually end with Luffy running from someone anyway).
And was there a scene indicating CP0 left the island or is that just a guess? CP0 suddenly showing up would definitely be something Oda would do (with or without an explanation on how they avoided Bird Cage).
NHarmonic.
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The Kid alliance declaring they are going against Shanks is so fucking hype. I love it.
Just a guess.
Significant time passed between Robin seeing them walking in the street and the Bird Cage going up. It's very likely they left.
BobTheFork
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You really think Sakazuki would let a pirate escape?
Both are reasonable questions. Hopefully we get an answer.
Cloud Strife
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Got it. Thanks for pointing that out!
Aaronrules380
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Just want to make it clear, that's just my interpretation of their translation. I don't read or speak Japanese myself, this is just speculation
Yes? We had a whole arc about multiple Pirates escaping.
Cloud Strife
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No, it makes a lot more sense with your interpretation. And there are only so many power level tiers I can take in this series lol.
gundamkyoukai
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If you mean during the war he had no choice since shanks was there and it was fleet admiral orders .
Plus he was more concern about luffy than anyone else.
Aaronrules380
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Ok, just wanted to make sure it was clear since I'd been bringing up a bunch of stuff from Aohige's translation, and thought maybe someone might've missed that it wasn't me who did them
Well, Akainu made it quite clear that simply trying to get Law and Luffy was not acceptable. He has to succeed.
gundamkyoukai
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I don't even think that matter since i don't think he has the power to fire him.
In this chapter Akainu got told off by the gorosei and then a admiral not a good day for him lol .
BobTheFork
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Not from The Red Dog they didn't. I don't think she would have gotten away. It's much more interesting if they set her free for some reason. We don't have much reason to believe either though.
Cloud Strife
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Pretty ambiguous statement from Fuji, though. Does he mean that he doesn't care about Akainu's punishment or that he will capture Law and Luffy?
I mean the Marines/the World Government system for handling criminals in general, not Akainu directly.
If Akainu was personally watching over her I'd agree with you. But all the marines/prison? Her powers make it very easy for her to fool people. She'd just have to turn 5 and someone would probably let her free thinking they captured a child by mistake.
HassanJamal
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Oh snap, Fujitora! Pretty awesome chapter, learning all bout the effect Doffy's beat down from Luffy and Law in the whole world. Akainu looks better with the beard and always funny to see Den Den mushis having the same face as their callers. Why are the other worst gen alliance going after Shanks? Also, why does Doffy go under the name Joker, now that I think about it.
Cloud Strife
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It's his underground black market name. He's a funny guy.
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