From the post you skipped over:
You just really like Kidd is all this argument is really about.
That's not really specific. Okay, what can we expect from him then? Like, can we predict what he is going to do in the story? We can predict his basic reactions based on his personality, but we hardly need Luffy for that. And while it's obvious he'll fight Luffy, I really don't know what else he's gonna do nor do I see how you could predict anything with any reasonable amount of certainty. Maybe fight the revolutionaries? Like, more than they did already?
And once you tell me what things we can tell from BB being a foil, I'll see if I can't counter that by also making predictions about Kidd. I mean, there's a lot of speculation about Kidd getting into an alliance ala Law, but if that happens my bet is that at one point he'll want to go farther in terms of viciousness than Luffy wants to, which will lead to a fight.
And honestly, this reductionist bs is kind of lame. I've given my reasons why Kidd qualifies as a foil. Even if you're completely right about it failure to provide meaningful insight into the characters, that would just make him an ineffective foil, the same way a twist that doesn't shock the audience is an ineffective twist. No one would argue that a twist isn't a twist if it fails to surprise the audience, just that it is a failed twist. There isn't a character in OP worth liking enough to get too obsessed about.
I don't know what to tell you, man.
I openly agreed that BB was the better written character. I fully agree that BB is meant to be his biggest contrast while Kidd is more of a bit player on a minor scale in terms of reflecting Luffy.
My original post was just as a way to say that I prefer him as a foil for personal reasons.
I don't know how my argument is being distorted into saying that Kidd is the better written opposite or that I think he's the biggest foil. I am just saying I like him more as a foil, even if he isn't better written as Luffy's foil.
RE: Kidd as foil, Veelk you've said they're basically the same character except for one important item, but.. I don't really think that's true at all. They don't really share any character traits, really. Wanting to be king of the pirates isn't a trait. Blackbeard is an example of the opposite, like Cloud showed up there they had the same/opposite reactions at the tavern, and maybe most importantly they both have a strong belief in the ability to follow a dream. We don't really know anything about Kidd as a character other than that he's a huge dick and he wants One Piece.
Eating habits are more important than fundamental character motivation? As I said, I agree that BB is more of a foil, and their eating introduction is meant to prime the reader into noticing those contrasts, but the eating itself is not something I would see as meaningful foil. Something like having the same dream serving as a reference point for how wildly different characters go about their dreams seems like better reference point to me (and why BB is a meaningful foil, with his resolve to follow his dream mirroring Luffy's)
