Blackleg-sanji1
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I wonder can you physically harm someone with it tho. Shanks was tearing the damn ship apart without trying. Surely with focus you could do the same on a person
One Piece Manga |OT2| Four Emperors, One King, All Blue
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Cause people blood vessels to burst from the inside.
When was Shanks tearing apart a ship?
Now I'm picturing Pudding roasting Rebecca lol
Cloud Strife
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Awakening and Conqueror's Haki are the two main possibilities for Luffy's growth from here on out imo.
I think we'll get a badass Conqueror's Haki scene this arc. It's meant to show Luffy's potential and what better way on Oda's part to show that he's gonna be Pirate King with a haki clash between himself and Big Mom, an emperor.
I think we'll get a badass Conqueror's Haki scene this arc. It's meant to show Luffy's potential and what better way on Oda's part to show that he's gonna be Pirate King with a haki clash between himself and Big Mom, an emperor.
"Put some clothes on already! Be a real warrior and start slicing off limps, start with Sanji hands!."
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
When he stepped onto whitebeards ship
whatsinaname
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Also, it's funny how there's another Pudding in the OP world. Pudding Pudding. Pudding redux, if you will.Even though he showed up first
What is his forelock ponytail covering?!
A huge forehead pimple.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
"Hahaha, your own father was right next to you the whole time and you didn't even know, you idiot. That's too funny!"
COBY
Yesh, successful bait is successful
"Ha what, you don't like to hurt people? That's stupid. Here, take my gun and shoot Sanji!"
She'd probably be worse to Shirahoshi
"Why the hell are you crying about your dead mom? I'd party if my mom died."
"You do realize you're an Ancient Weapon right? Stop crying like a little bitch like Sanji, and go do something with your life!"
BobTheFork
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His moment at the end of the Whitebeard war wasn't conquers?
It sure wasn't Mantra of Observational.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Coby? He could hear ppl dying it was observation. Just like that girl from skypiea
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Pudding travels around and meets people who used to know the Strawhats:
"Oh, you're Zoro's teacher? Yeah, I know him. He sometimes tells me that he feels guilty about that time he pushed your daughter down the steps. But I told him not to. I mean, it's just so fucking hilarious."
"Kaya, right? I've heard about you from Usopp. He sometimes brings up your name when we're having sex. Oh, don't make that face. I think he assumes you died a couple of years ago."
"Oh, so you're Vivi. No wonder the crew is always making fun of your dumb face and that prank they played on you with their arms. I guess that's why they immediately invited Crocodile's right hand woman to join their crew after they were rid of you."
"Oh, you're Zoro's teacher? Yeah, I know him. He sometimes tells me that he feels guilty about that time he pushed your daughter down the steps. But I told him not to. I mean, it's just so fucking hilarious."
"Kaya, right? I've heard about you from Usopp. He sometimes brings up your name when we're having sex. Oh, don't make that face. I think he assumes you died a couple of years ago."
"Oh, so you're Vivi. No wonder the crew is always making fun of your dumb face and that prank they played on you with their arms. I guess that's why they immediately invited Crocodile's right hand woman to join their crew after they were rid of you."
Nah it wasn't nothing really indicates it as such like others uses like the pulse going out like a shockwave, people falling over, nobody in the marines reacting even when they did with Luffy did it.
Coby just stood up to Akainu and basically said enough was enough we accomplished our mission lets stop
Coby showed Mantara when he was in the Hospital recovering with Hemp and Tashigi and he was hearing voices in his head. Along with when he woke up on the battle field and heard all the pain and suffering and couldn't get it out of his head.
Deceased
BobTheFork
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I'm talking about his big emotional cry that stopped everyone there momentarily. I thought it was pretty clear they were setting up his Conquer Haki.
He definitely has it. I don't fell like pretending to be surprised when go out of their way later to show he has it.
The question is. Does he even know that he has Haki?
Ugh at her clothes.
Conqueror's Haki is a consecquence of being a highly charismatic individual. I think it was described that people with Conqueror's Haki have some traits that qualify them as "kings".
I think the Will of D. has more to do with that ability. So far we've been told that they are part of an "infamous bloodline" that the Celestial Dragons seem to hate (which makes me wonder how did Garp manage to become an Admiral), and that certain events are bound to happen by the hands of somebody that carries the D. surname.
It's been teased, if not outright told, that it has something to do with the Great Kingdom. Whitebeard thought Ace was that person and wanted to protect him until he was ready to reach Raftel and become Pirate King. Shanks seems to have bet on Luffy. Both seem to know that there is something awaiting there, and I think Roger told that "the biggest treasure in the world awaits at Raftel" to begin the Great Pirate Era and create a climate where the World Government could be taken down.
Or something like that.
Edit: There is people with Conqueror's Haki but no Will of D. Like Doffy, Shanks (maybe? we don't know his surname), Whitebard, Rayleigh and... Boa?.
Heh. Well, I didn't plagerize you on purpose.
More:
"Hey, sword shop owner from Loguetown? That sword you gave Zoro? It was a piece of shit and broke before it even got to do anything important. Like you."
"Don't be so angsty, Law. If Corazon was anything like Lola, Doffy was smart to shoot him before he went around whoring himself to the first person who'd give him the time of day. Oh wait, that was you, wasn't it?"
God, can you imagine how they'll would lovingly accept their daughter in law once they realized how much they have in common?
Reiju would be that sister in real life that would never like her, no matter what she does lol
Oh I know you didn't, just thought I'd bring it up.
They would accept her in open arms, with Sanji just looking miserable in the back.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Pudding could give the rest of the family tips on how to torment Sanji for maximum effectiveness.
It's ok, they'll eventually get their comeuppance.
And then I'll join them, pretending I didn't have so much fun seeing everyone roast the fuck outta Sanji
I'm a Sanji fan too and it sucks his sacrifice is basically in vain atm with him losing his freedom for Zeff yet not having a wife to help with the pain or having a guarantee the strawhats will be left fine.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
One of the reasons why I read OP is that it creates such hatable characters, only to completely tear them down later. It's like a feelgood potion that's bitter on the way down.
I think the best part of seeing the terrible Vinsmokes and the arguably even worse Pudding be such awful people is that, according to what Pudding has said, they're going to destroy each other
I think the best part of seeing the terrible Vinsmokes and the arguably even worse Pudding be such awful people is that, according to what Pudding has said, they're going to destroy each other
What how the hell is Pudding really worse than Sanji family?
Not arguing she isn't but that whole family is trash tier with no hope for redemption...hopefully. I rather they burn like Nazi's they are inspired by.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Hm? I'm totally fine lol. I feel for the dude it's not a bad thing at all tho. He needed this
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Pudding better not get torn down until Raftel.
Probably because I think it was hinted that the children were made or w/e to act like remorseless dicks? The father is a complete asshat though. I don't really know how to feel about Reiju, but I won't let Pudding's evilness blind me, she was still complicit in a lot of abuse Sanji suffered through.
I've seen several people call Pudding the most evil character this year, due to the fact that she personally betrayed Sanji and co., and well, that panel this chapter with him crying is pretty brutal. Not that that actually makes her worse than the Vinsmokes, but I'm not surprised some people feel that way. Where it's like at least the Vinsmokes are openly evil and dickish. Pudding pretends like she isn't, which is arguably worse to some people.
Cloud Strife
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I think the only time I didn't feel this way about a villain was Doflamingo. His past is fucked, and it made him more relatable. Idk, it amplified what you're talking about even more for me.
But yeah, all of these villains this arc can get fucked. I'm hoping for an "Oh shit this guy is the real deal" towards Luffy from Big Mom's side and a "fuck, this guy is strong" towards Sanji from the Vinsmokes.
C'mawn Oda
I like Doffy and all, but meh, I don't feel like he was that relatable. I do wish that they expanded more on how much influence Trebol ended up having on him though.
"I mean, lets not talk about your clothes, but what is wrong with your face! Copyright enforcement called, they want you to give it back to Nami!"
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I think they're pretty comparable on a surface level, but Pudding pretends to be nice when she's just as bad as Sanji's family. Getting beaten up and made fun of by people you know are your enemies is one thing. Getting betrayed by someone you thought was your friend is like a hundred times worse.
I thought Doflamingo was an awesome subversion of the tragic past trope we'd seen so many times by that point. He somehow had a horrible, horrible past and still managed to be an unapologetically evil person down to his core, even when bad things were happening to him. It made the reader feel conflicted about what to feel towards him, but I think the ultimate end goal was to get us to realize that some people are just rotten no matter what kind of lives they live. The contrast Doffy had with Rocinante (my fav character in the entire series so far) was so good.
I want those moments too. Sanji's "big damn hero" moment is gonna come soon, I can feel it.
I hate that part of OP so much.
There aren't many villains in general that I hate. I'm rarely interested in that emotion when it comes to fiction. I'm always more interested in just understanding the characters, without much in the way of judgement to them. Honestly, I can't even think of villains I actually hate off the top of my head unless it's because of bad writing. And no, it doesn't ever take away from the catharsis of watching their schemes break down. Seeing the protagonist and antagonist given reasons to square off each other is enough. I don't need to personally hate anyone to enjoy that.
It just flat out feels like emotional manipulation. Like, most works just tend to have villains do what they do and the characters hate them, but the presentation that Oda gives is that he's intentionally pushing us, the audience, into a certain corner. That, perhaps more than anything, is why always feel compelled to applaud villains for whatever atrocity they commit. Knowing that the author is pushing me in a certain direction makes me resentful, which then makes me want to be contrarian.
I get the feeling in abstract. It's moral vindication via righteous violence. I feel like I relate to it much more in real life. Like, if someone straight up punched Donald Trump, I'd cheer that on. So I get it. But I just feel that's such a low and base urge to satisfy in fiction, which doesn't work nearly as well BECAUSE it's fiction. Trump is a real life idiot asshole. The Vinsmokes, being fictional, are just puppets made to act a certain way. That just takes all the bite out of the idea for me.
To be fair outside a few women in One Piece, all the women would be guilty of that.
Pudding face even, though the 3rd eye helps her a lot.
NHarmonic.
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God no, go back and take viola. Useful power, creative combat moves, lot of potential. Such a loss.
Viola is boring as fuck though, all she has to her being cool is her tear whale attack which I'm baffled about how the hell that works.
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