One Piece Manga |OT2| Four Emperors, One King, All Blue

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Franky as a gundam alright
Usopp and Chopper the guys from Princess M great
Nami as Lina Inverse good.
Brooke as Lord Death okay.
Luffy as Naruto fine.

But the others?
Zoro should be Kenshin since he actually fights with swords, is basically a samurai and was at one point possibly a villan as a bounty hunter.
Kidd should be Edward, both have metal arms and assosiations with metal
Why is Law Ash, he actually accomplishes stuff.
Ace as Goku?
Sabo as Vash?
Robin as Mikasa?

Cloud Strife said:
guysguysguysguys r u 4 real
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Besides her ability to talk to seakings, I don't really like her design/crying stuff.
 
Principate said:
I'm talking about if such a situation were to happen in real life what's the likelihood they could feasible pull them off. Most of Crocodiles shit is feasible assuming his abilities existed because he plans layered upon plans in case of extremely unlikely occurrences and they're not in the crazy territory *cough* bleach *cough*. Azula taking over the Dali and successfully pulling off that coop has so many potential and probable roadblocks, I can't imagine it even remotely working even under very similar circumstances.
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In real life, lots of things that happen in one piece wouldn't happen, including many of crow's badic abilities. I still try to figure out where the water is supposed to go when he uses his drying technique, since water displacement is a thing, and why water is croc's weakness in most cases but he's okay moving it with that ability, or how he can move several tons of sand, but water making it marginally heavier renders it impossible.

One piece mixes with real life the way cats mix with the empty vacuum of space. Pick any fictional series at random and you'll get one that is more believable. You can argue one piece operates well enough in its own bubble, but that's the only place it can operate.

On the other hand, most of what Azula pulled off was psychological warfare against indoctrinated servants. They were brainwashed into a might makes right mentality. In her brief stay there, she managed to infiltrate and subtly spread doubt among the only enforcement running the show there. Azula's breaking speech to Long Feng played on the Divine Right to Rule belief, something deeply engraved into the culture of any monarchal society. Their king was weak, so they had to settle with the effective advisor. But now that real royalty stepped into the picture, they have a chance of serving a true queen. And that's what Azula played on. It might have turned out otherwise if Long Feng had more spine to him, but in their exchange, he was the one asking the questions of Azula, trying to regain control he lost. When Azula said he already knew he lost, that's when he hesitated, and actually did lose.

Perhaps you can gawp in disbelief, but the human mind is not rational and is capable of making strange choices where politics is involved, as exemplified by our current president elect. Nothing about Azula's rise is based in fiction, it's all mind games, and you can't disprove that.

Furthermore, there's one other difference. Azula never planned anything, atleast not beyond a step or two. Infiltrate the earth kingdom, and proceed from there. Then they find out about the Dai li, so she adjusted to turn them instead. Then she learned of the Avatar coming, so she adjusted to that.

"Plans can break down. You cannot plan the future. Only presumptuous fools plan. The wise man steers."
 
The writer talking to their editor like

"It's an anime, sir."

"Make it all the anime so they know what anime is."

"What?"

"Just put every anime in there and put something from Wiki as the blurb."

"But it's about a specific show."

"It's a fucking Japanese cartoon! Our readers don't know what those are!"

"Alright, fine."

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"I have no idea what this is. Perfect"
 
Veelk said:
In real life, lots of things that happen in one piece wouldn't happen, including many of crow's badic abilities. I still try to figure out where the water is supposed to go when he uses his drying technique, since water displacement is a thing, and why water is croc's weakness in most cases but he's okay moving it with that ability, or how he can move several tons of sand, but water making it marginally heavier renders it impossible.

One piece mixes with real life the way cats mix with the empty vacuum of space. Pick any fictional series at random and you'll get one that is more believable. You can argue one piece operates well enough in its own bubble, but that's the only place it can operate.

On the other hand, most of what Azula pulled off was psychological warfare against indoctrinated servants. They were brainwashed into a might makes right mentality. In her brief stay there, she managed to infiltrate and subtly spread doubt among the only enforcement running the show there. Azula's breaking speech to Long Feng played on the Divine Right to Rule belief, something deeply engraved into the culture of any monarchal society. Their king was weak, so they had to settle with the effective advisor. But now that real royalty stepped into the picture, they have a chance of serving a true queen. And that's what Azula played on. It might have turned out otherwise if Long Feng had more spine to him, but in their exchange, he was the one asking the questions of Azula, trying to regain control he lost. When Azula said he already knew he lost, that's when he hesitated, and actually did lose.

Perhaps you can gawp in disbelief, but the human mind is not rational and is capable of making strange choices where politics is involved, as exemplified by our current president elect. Nothing about Azula's rise is based in fiction, it's all mind games, and you can't disprove that.

Furthermore, there's one other difference. Azula never planned anything, atleast not beyond a step or two. Infiltrate the earth kingdom, and proceed from there. Then they find out about the Dai li, so she adjusted to turn them instead. Then she learned of the Avatar coming, so she adjusted to that.

"Plans can break down. You cannot plan the future. Only presumptuous fools plan. The wise man steers."
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I gasp because it makes little sense the fire nation is an invading enemy force of a different race divine right to lead means jack shit next to nationalism and tribalism. The fact there wasn't single other person power hungry enough to run a counter faction (even the most absolute dictatorships had those.) So Azula could sweep in so complete so easily was asinine. The facf this all happened in few days when this sorta shot in the best case takes months to years is a joke. The list goes on and one and on.

I mean sure if you want to take a childish vision of a coup d'etat so seriously be my guest but lets not pretend like it's anything other than that.
 
I got Renowned Explorers in the steam sale and a One Piece version of this game would be so great. You could go out on a mission with Robin/Usopp/Zoro as a devious team and just beat everyone with pure negativity.
 
After the inevitable Pudding mind bending reveal, it has to be

One Piece Manga |OT3| It was me, Pudding!

Actually that scene is perfect for Pudding shops

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One Piece Manga |OT3| carrot for crew!

One Piece Manga |OT3| All hail carrot

One Piece Manga |OT3| Pudding is a kid's snack
 
Principate said:
I gasp because it makes little sense the fire nation is an invading enemy force of a different race divine right to lead means jack shit next to nationalism and tribalism. The fact there wasn't single other person power hungry enough to run a counter faction (even the most absolute dictatorships had those.) So Azula could sweep in so complete so easily was asinine. The facf this all happened in few days when this sorta shot in the best case takes months to years is a joke. The list goes on and one and on.

I mean sure if you want to take a childish vision of a coup d'etat so seriously be my guest but lets not pretend like it's anything other than that.
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Say what you want it about being unlikely, there is literally nothing impossible about it. Lack of other power hungry factions can be explained by all the royals getting an invitation to Lake Laogi. The dai li could be taught to have no loyalty to anyone but the ruling class of ba sing se, regardless of their nationality.

It all fits just fine. That you don't like it or view it as unlikely isn't proof of it being impossible. And again, in the world of politics, stranger things have happened. The human mind is wierd like that.

All this to say that in a match up against Azula, croc takes home a Sanji sized L.


I just saw the picture and WHAT THE FUCK, SOMEONE GET SANJI OUT OF ED'S OUTFIT, THAT COSTUME IS FOR GOOD CHARACTERS
 
Veelk said:
Say what you want it about being unlikely, there is literally nothing impossible about it. Lack of other power hungry factions can be explained by all the royals getting an invitation to Lake Laogi. The dai li could be taught to have no loyalty to anyone but the ruling class of ba sing se, regardless of their nationality.

It all fits just fine. That you don't like it or view it as unlikely isn't proof of it being impossible. And again, in the world of politics, stranger things have happened. The human mind is wierd like that.

All this to say that in a match up against Azula, croc takes home a Sanji sized L.
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It's highly unlkely as are the vast majority of events in fictions that don't break the laws of physics. It lacks any sort of nuance very fumbling and quite frankly one big cliche. It's hardly the first piece of fiction to use the might makes right and so complete outsider rules an organisation they don't remotely know with no problems within a few days and it will hardly be the last. (In fact I know it isn't).

I mean surely you've seen this exact same trope in plenty of other pieces of fiction.

Even considering if things went exactly as you said it would still be high unlikely.
 
Principate said:
It's highly unlkely as are the vast majority of events in fictions that don't break the laws of physics. It lacks any sort of nuance very fumblinb and quite frankly one big cliche. It's hardly the first piece of fiction to use the might makes right and so complete outsider rules an organisation they don't remotely know with no problems within a few days and it the last.

I mean surely you've seen this exact same trope in plenty of other pieces of fiction.
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I mean, at this point, the goalposts have moved pretty far from the original argument at this point. We've gone from trying to determine who achieved more, to trying to figure out what plan is more 'realistic', and now it's about whose more nuanced or original or well written. And not even in comparison against Croc, but other series at this point.

It's not my interest to convince you that Azula is the best written character of any fictional series or anything, as great as she is, just that she is vastly more successful than Croc ever dreamed of being. That, I feel, I've put to rest if you've moved on from that point, but I'm not interested in trying to compare Azula to....every coup-er ever to try and prove...what, that she's imperfect? Sure, everything is and all writing can always be improved. But it was still damn, damn, damn good.

Edit: also, keep in mind this is mostly for fun, not a measure of how 'good' a character is. It's dumb when superhero fans try to do shit like compare batman and daredevil, saying daredevil had a more tragic past yet still has optimismn, as if that's an indication of good writing. It's not, nor does this mean Azula is a better character than Croc. I mean, she is, but that's for other reasons (aka, the humanizing, which was the earlier topic of conversation), not because she embarasses Croc at Xanatos Speed Chess.
 
One Piece Manga |OT3| Hell Memories
One Piece Manga |OT3| Pudding Memories
One Piece Manga |OT3| Hell Memories, Now With Pudding
One Piece Manga |OT3| Romance Pudding
One Piece Manga |OT3| Chivalry is Dead (Use in case of Sanji actually subverting expectations)
 
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Lol

Completely unrelated, but do you guys think Doflamingo will come back into the fold, as we get closer to Kaidou? I imagine he'll send more resources after him, and I think that it's only a matter of time before he's free again. Doffy is probably my favorite villain in the series so far, so I would definitely like to see him play an active role again.
 
Daingurse said:
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Lol

Completely unrelated, but do you guys think Doflamingo will come back into the fold, as we get closer to Kaidou? I imagine he'll send more resources after him, and I think that it's only a matter of time before he's free again. Doffy is probably my favorite villain in the series so far, so I would definitely like to see him play an active role again.
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Those eyes aren't going to show themselves
 
I imagine he'll show up again, but not as a major villain

I wanna see Croc way more. I wonder if he'll show up in Wano.
 
Doffy will be back. It might be as soon as Wano but One Piece won't be the same without our hype man. He gives a speech everytime something epic is about to happen.
 
I was not around at that time, but I was wondering, do people hated Franky when he was introducing and it was becoming clearer that he was going to be part of the crew?

I am sure Brook was beloved from the very start.
 
Veelk said:
I mean, at this point, the goalposts have moved pretty far from the original argument at this point. We've gone from trying to determine who achieved more, to trying to figure out what plan is more 'realistic', and now it's about whose more nuanced or original or well written. And not even in comparison against Croc, but other series at this point.

It's not my interest to convince you that Azula is the best written character of any fictional series or anything, as great as she is, just that she is vastly more successful than Croc ever dreamed of being. That, I feel, I've put to rest if you've moved on from that point, but I'm not interested in trying to compare Azula to....every coup-er ever to try and prove...what, that she's imperfect? Sure, everything is and all writing can always be improved. But it was still damn, damn, damn good.

Edit: also, keep in mind this is mostly for fun, not a measure of how 'good' a character is. It's dumb when superhero fans try to do shit like compare batman and daredevil, saying daredevil had a more tragic past yet still has optimismn, as if that's an indication of good writing. It's not, nor does this mean Azula is a better character than Croc. I mean, she is, but that's for other reasons (aka, the humanizing, which was the earlier topic of conversation), not because she embarasses Croc at Xanatos Speed Chess.
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I wasn't moving the goal post more genuiely surprised that you considered that decent or great writing. Hence why I didn't compare to crocodile, everything else is obviously not serious.
 
SalvaPot said:
I was not around at that time, but I was wondering, do people hated Franky when he was introducing and it was becoming clearer that he was going to be part of the crew?

I am sure Brook was beloved from the very start.
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Can't speak for here but I remember some general hate for him because he beat up usopp. Paulie was the next strawhat train for most. It didn't become apparent it was Franky until they got to the towers
 
SalvaPot said:
I was not around at that time, but I was wondering, do people hated Franky when he was introducing and it was becoming clearer that he was going to be part of the crew?

I am sure Brook was beloved from the very start.
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I started reading right towards the beginning of Enies Lobby. Everyone wanted Paulie lol

I was pretty upset at him, but more so at Usopp at the time. I really enjoyed his talks with Robin during Enies Lobby and thought he was awesome towards the end of that. Liked him in Thriller Bark, but I feel like he (and Brook until this arc) haven't had much of a focus.

His stuff in Dresrossa sucks and is laughable compared to what Brook is getting now.
 
Cloud Strife said:
I started reading right towards the beginning of Enies Lobby. Everyone wanted Paulie lol

I was pretty upset at him, but more so at Usopp at the time. I really enjoyed his talks with Robin during Enies Lobby and thought he was awesome towards the end of that. Liked him in Thriller Bark, but I feel like he (and Brook until this arc) haven't had much of a focus.

His stuff in Dresrossa sucks and is laughable compared to what Brook is getting now.
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You think? Franky has been top notch since fishman island and i hated the guy before it.
Tons of focus since
 
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