I just realized something. Back in Thriller Bark, Sanji was willing to give himself up to the government to save Luffy. Meaning that they would look into him, and find out he's part of the Vinsmoke family and would probably be put in their "custody". Even back then, Sanji was willing to go back to his family just to save Luffy. Now that's a real bro move.
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One Piece Manga |OT2| Four Emperors, One King, All Blue
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Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Yea that is pretty crazy now that I think about it. He obviously left for a reason but was willing to return for for his captain, his friend. Nice catch.
Makes you wonder if that other statement in thriller bark will hold true as well than.
Wonder if Sanji knows more about the WG then he lets on.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Hmm idk I suppose his family does but he left at a seemingly a young age so you think they inform their kids so early?
We know virtually nothing about Dragon and his motivations. And for the criminal part, at least him seems to be fighting for something bigger than him, not messing around being a pirate because "that's the maximum freedom and fuck the world".
(Don't read in a *too* serious tone
).BTW, can I say how liberating is reading the manga after years of anime only? The pace looks like a F1 car compared with the TV. Best decision ever.
Garp didnt do shit.
He threw luffy in with a bunch of criminal mountain bandits, visit him every couple of months probably, and then expect him to not be a criminal?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
We will never know(plz oda don't do it)
Ganzlinger
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So far, he doesn't seem responsible enough for that. There is time though.
I'm pretty sure that if he becomes father it will be after a final timeskip with zero development after he discovers One Piece. Oda ha shown zero interest so far in establishing romantic relationships (not like Naruto).
Are they though? All they did was abandon their children to go off on their own adventures.
In OP, that's a good thing. (though, a lot of shonen fathers are absent in some sense and have their kids not consider it a big deal)
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Is it though? It ended up badly for everyone who did it
Yasopp's wife died and his kid became a compulsive liar
Garp's son became the most wanted man in the world
Dragon's son is getting there
Gold Roger's son was hated by everyone and lived in poverty
Franky was living alone on a beach because his dad abandoned him to go pirating
Nami ended up in an orphanage because her parents were missing
Etc.
It may be something that other characters admire, to go off and adventure and leave your kid behind, but the repercussions are always there and usually bad
Meanwhile, everyone who HAS parents is well off
Vivi lives as a princess, maintains positive relationship with father
Rebecca's entire life was basically saved and salvaged by her father, even against the odds
Vinsmoke family is feared and respected worldwide, children seem to live comfy lives
Sanji's actual parents weren't there, but Zeff gave him a purpose in life and even a steady job
Franky's actual dad was likewise absent, but Tom shaped his entire worldview and made his life better, again giving him a stable job and skillset
Etc.
Ganzlinger
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Me too.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
They were, I'm just saying not having parents was bad. Bellmere made her life much better until... she died too, where it went south.
I think so. It's not like it was framed in the narrative to be a negative thing for the most part.
It may be something that other characters admire, to go off and adventure and leave your kid behind, but the repercussions are always there and usually bad[/QUOTE]
I disagree with most of those examples since it isn't something we are shown to that actually bothers other characters. Usopp's mom dies, but he never criticizes it. Franky ended up okay, so it's not shown he's upset about it. You might take things to be intuitively awful things to do, but Luffy genuinely doesn't care that his grandfather threw him off cliffs and Usopp outright venerates his father for abandoning him, so it's perfectly plausible to say that they're genuinely not bothered by parental abandonment even if some hardships came with it. I don't deny there are some bad consequences, but if the characters don't care, then they aren't really meaningful.
This one is pretty debatable. Sabo had parents, look how happy he was. And you can't deny that Doflamingo's life was ruined by his father, and then drastically improved once he shot him in the head. And Sanji probably left the family for a pretty big reason.
Besides, if you're including adoptive parents in your previous list, then most characters did have parents. Luffy had Dadan and mikoto, Zoro had Kuina's father, Nami had Bellevere, etc. But that works conversely too. Law had both Doflamingo and Corazon as father figures, and he had a mixed bag right there.
And how do you even qualify Helmeppo. He lived a comfortable life, but was not a happy person until he removed his father from his life and joined the marines with Coby. Was his father then a positive or negative influence?
There are definitely good parents in OP that take care of their children, and you could argue that the adoptive parents picked up the slack where the real parents left off, but as far as I can see, parental abandonment doesn't seem to be a real issue. It either works itself out by having someone else come along or else the person in question just doesn't care.
Most likely a devil fruit.
All this dad talk reminds me that Whitebeard was a pretty awesome father figure
Like a non-sexy succubus.
until we learned that he too was just another deadbeat when he abandoned Weevil
Like a non-sexy succubus.
We don't know if that is true if I remember well. And even if he is truly his son, Whitebeard probably didn't even know that. The mother doesn't inspire much confidence about that story.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Why are we spoiler tagging that lol. That's not his damn son
I can't blame Whitebeard for leaving if Weevil is his son.
Lol, it was supposed to be the subtle sarcasm kind of spoiler tag instead of a legit one. Of course Whitebeard isn't the baby daddy to that weirdly powerful imitation
or is he?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Eh oda could be baiting us and it could be his son but I doubt it. The Navy ain't buying it either they just want that power
Sorry, I tend to spoiler mark a response to something that is spoiled marked, out of precaution.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Haha!! He should've just hugged it out with BB like he did Squard
Whitebeard understood that it was the evil marines that turned his loving son against him. Nobody tricked Blackbeard into killing a crewmate.
Whitebeard is a rad dad.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Until it's later found out that fruit belonged to the Marshall family and BB was the rightful owner
Cloud Strife
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Would have been something if WB had forgiven Teach in the final moments. Teach is a prick but it would have made WB a lot more likeable, to me anyway.
I think it's because Whitebeard knew something about Teach that we don't.
I think it's because Whitebeard knew something about Teach that we don't.
Cloud Strife
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Think we'll see Sanji's father this week?
Really hope so
And i really hope it's not that clock beard dude he looked so goofy
Cloud Strife
Member
Yeah that guy looked horrible lol
I'd imagine his father would be here for the wedding and not at the reverie? Assuming it hasn't happened yet.
More Fun To Compute
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Pirate articles were pretty strict when it comes to violence against each other and theft. Death is pretty much the punishment every time and a pirate captain would have to uphold that keep the respect. If Whitebeard just forgave a scumbag like Teach then that would just show him up as being weak. Whitebeard wasn't Jesus he was a pirate fleet captain.
Cloud Strife
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Nope, he was Jesus. How do you explain Squardo then?!?!???!
Get outta here with your logic and real world examples.
lol
More Fun To Compute
Member
Sometimes I forget that One Piece is a soap opera about family lives and not about piracy and war in the age of sail.
Cloud Strife
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Speaking seriously, it really isn't about piracy at all and very much focused on anti-pirates.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
This is One Piece
Plus he might be Sanji so of course he will be Goofy.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Lol o god big mom
Cloud Strife
Member
Sanji's dad might be Sanji?
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
And Luffy is Gold Roger
More Fun To Compute
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Sanji is his own father and mother due to time travel and Ivankov hormones. Sanji selfcest theory revealed here and now boys. It's basically canon at this point because I say so and it's a really big theory that fits the facts available.
And Zoro is Ryuma, he was gonna appear earlier but he got lost in time.
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