Wow thanks a lot. This explains why my damages vastly differs from time to time. The multiplier can go up to hundreds.
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Wow thanks a lot. This explains why my damages vastly differs from time to time. The multiplier can go up to hundreds.
Neoriceisgood
Member
That's ... quite the makeshift team.
Considering Heracles'n lowers int orbs chances of appearing I'm not entirely sure I get how Kaku isn't a really double edged sword without orb control though.
Yep
It's why a low multiplier team like the vivi zombie team can take an entire hour to clear a raid like e.g. garp. yet a proper burst team can clear it in one turn.
The damage output of the game's top burst teams can get absolutely ridiculous.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
There's a downside to a super easy raidboss.
It's super boring.
It's super boring.
To answer my own question - yeah BB clears 30stam without issue the enemy lineup is pretty much the same.
Mine just showed up - red turtles.
lucypirates
Unconfirmed Member
THIS. So much. I realized it about 6 runs in.
Didn't know about him lowering chances like that. Aside from Alvida and Kaku my team is fine I guess. I mentioned a reason why I take Kaku but I guess I should further clarify why. I am only Pirate Lv. 114. I'm lucky to even have Sengoku, Rayleigh, and some random units maxed as it is it feels like. I get about 70% of the turtle times as well. My list of options to replace Alvida and Kaku are very slim (until I finish leveling plenty of characters) I basically take what I can get to these raids for now.
I'm still wondering if it's really going to be 2x Skill Up AND Super success.
I mean it says both but it's worded like a crazy person wrote it and the banner only says Super Success
lucypirates
Unconfirmed Member
It's a little too good to be true and I think given all the errors in the past, that's where the apprehension remains. But I'm expecting it to be true, as the event description explicitly states it as such - we've just never seen it before (and I believe neither has Japan, outside of their now permanent skill up increase). Also, another player emailed Bamco directly and asked them about the event in question and why specifically their event descriptions aren't always clear and got this response which confirmed it.
It's just odd how terrible Bamco is at communicating, even on the own social accounts. To the point where the lack of acknowledgement is off putting.
I recently reported a bug in the game and it's odd that they'll send a semi-canned reply back without giving real credence to what you're emailing about. It wasn't until I berated their reply and pointed out "it was up to them if they wanted to fix it or not", that just this week I finally got a reply, the bug will be fixed in the next version release.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
This has lead to a few deaths for me. I've been multitasking while playing and forgotten to activate my skills after taking the 700k. Whoops.
My guess is they had a skill up event for now planned but since that huge backlash on social media where people wanted a skill up event so bad they added one that wasn't planned.
Been a busy day for me, so I'm just now getting to try Heracles. The Thousand Sunny really makes this raid easy, so much that it's worth using over the Coffin Ship. Clearing out all the extra mobs with Heracles is basically like getting an extra turn to fight him. Messed around with a couple teams and decided to go with Mihawk/Mihawk, Slasher Croc, Vista, Whitey Bay, and GP Usopp. I don't actually know if Whitey Bay's buff ends up doing more damage than using Prison Mr. 1 or Helmeppo there (both have higher attack than my Whitey Bay, who is a bit under leveled), but whatever, it works and I never get to use Whitey Bay.
I wanted to farm this one a lot (I have Legend Croc and Heracles is going to be useful there), but I'm not sure how many copies I'll manage. Not like I need to finish him in one go, though.
I wanted to farm this one a lot (I have Legend Croc and Heracles is going to be useful there), but I'm not sure how many copies I'll manage. Not like I need to finish him in one go, though.
Try your raid mihawk team once again with the fhe coffin boat and following subs:
GPU
Mr 3
Doffy
And another int slasher as your final one: Buggy Apprentice/Vista/Slasher Croc
Stage 5, turn 1, use both mihawks and Mr 3's special, take out as many mobs as you can. Turn 2, use GPU, take out the remaining mobs (or take out the remaining mobs and tank a hit from Heracles, using GPU on turn 3. whatever works.) bring heracles's HP down further into burst range, use Doffy and 5th sub specials, win.
What team do you use for Garp? I think pretty much any non-zombie team that beats Garp can beat Heracles.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
I don't think that would work. Unless I misunderstand, GPU wouldn't be usable until after the enemy takes a turn following a previous delay (Mr. 3).
I think, -think-, when Heracles casts the red skull thing on himself it replaces the delay. So it'd work on him at least
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Ah! So this is a special scenario then. Gotcha.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Ok, I underestimated this stage a bit. Those damn dinosaurs on Stage 2 can really screw up a run. Multiple 1CD Blues? ALL 1 CD? Screw you!I wasn't able to get him up to max CD, but my 17 CD BB has made this raid easy mode.
It would be even easier if my MC's CD wasn't 24, >_>.
I'm going to go with Auto heal + CD reduction and possibly resilience, orb matching, or RCV up. Bind/despair resistance doesn't sound appealing since majority of my subs have those 2 sockets, especially the high ATK units.
Has anyone experimented with resilience? How does it decide if it's going to work or not? If it works the way I think it does, we might be able to keep resetting the fight until it actually works for failed attempts.
Majukun
Member
how?
if you die,the game saves
also it seems like the chance is so little that you might as well don't count on it.
Cloggerdude
Member
Yeah, if it worked that way then EVERYBODY would be doing it.
Yeah, Resilience is almost intentionally bad. You're basically looking at a ~15% chance of surviving a turn. It might proc once in a blue moon and it'll be awesome, but you're generally better off just getting a team that won't die. 
There's a lot of personal preference in socketing, but the one rule you can probably abide by is that a guarantee of something happening is better than a possibility of something happening. Bind, Despair, Auto-Heal, Cooldown Reduction, those are all guarantees. Even Damage Reduction is a guarantee, it's just not especially useful. Resilience and RCV Boost are both based on chance (since you need meat for RCV Boost to work). It's hard to recommend either.
(Poison and Map Damage are also useless, but only because there's no content out there yet that requires them. This could change in the future, and Poison will almost assuredly be useful in whatever content Magellan ends up in)
There's a lot of personal preference in socketing, but the one rule you can probably abide by is that a guarantee of something happening is better than a possibility of something happening. Bind, Despair, Auto-Heal, Cooldown Reduction, those are all guarantees. Even Damage Reduction is a guarantee, it's just not especially useful. Resilience and RCV Boost are both based on chance (since you need meat for RCV Boost to work). It's hard to recommend either.
(Poison and Map Damage are also useless, but only because there's no content out there yet that requires them. This could change in the future, and Poison will almost assuredly be useful in whatever content Magellan ends up in)
That's actually a good idea. I've got some of the semi-useful fodder with those slots. Was thinking about giving them to Chopperman, since he has a ton of slots and I wasn't going to use him for anything else anyway.
If there ends up being a Magellan raid where poison negation is absolutely vital, I expect to see a lot of scrambling to find usable subs that can be socketed easily (since people won't want to adjust the sockets on their RRs and Legends just for one raid). I'm actually kind of hoping it happens, it'll be a lot of fun and people will be forced to get creative instead of just Mihawking it all.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
I spent 13 gems and had 2 level ups, leaving me with 51 Heracles dupes. I would have gotten more, if not for the previously mentioned Evil Dinos runs + the few times I straight up forgot to use my BB skills (multitasking + boring raid combo too stronk). Here's to hoping I get lucky next week.
After feeding him like 80 copies my blackbeard is actually at 5 bind/ 3 Poison (and CD 28 turns...). If he comes around during next week's skill up event I legitimately might start a new black beard and finish socketing this one with poison.
There is only one unit I have in my box which has 5 points in either poison or stage damage: dock lucci has 5 poison sockets.
There is only one unit I have in my box which has 5 points in either poison or stage damage: dock lucci has 5 poison sockets.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Bruh, I think Rayleigh has made you a worse player.
When was I ever a good player
If you die, you can always exit the game and it'll put you at the start of the enemy's turn. The way I think it might work is that the chance it'll work is determined every time your health reaches 0 (or some low health number) and since this isn't calculated when you start the island (like drops) then you should be able to keep resetting your game until it does work.
Well it's so bad that no one might have tried this out since it requires 5 slots to work lol.
I'll probably stick to orb matching although it doesn't work so well with his special.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Ended up with 66 Heracles. Hope it's good enough.
Cloggerdude
Member
I'm finally high enough level to actually use my SW Ace team in the Japanese version. Well, kinda. I can't afford a fully powered team, but I'm still having a blast with it. I can't wait until my pirate level is high enough for the actual team.
Only thing I'm missing right now is the SW Franky. Who knows if I'll ever pull him....
Only thing I'm missing right now is the SW Franky. Who knows if I'll ever pull him....
lucypirates
Unconfirmed Member
Didn't get a chance to try other teams, stuck with my Blackbeard setup for Heracles'n to the last minute. In the end grabbed 131 copies (one from a 30 stamina drop), plus the unit I kept which is at Lv72 currently after evolving and all the PSY turtles that dropped.
This was by far the easiest raid I think, I didn't mind it so much during the second half but initially it was pretty boring. The only anomalous thing was after 132 runs, the PSY lobster only dropped 3 times (plus one beli bag). It definitely had the lowest drop % for all the fodder. The pig drops were a bit annoying, given how not very useful they are without the treasure turtles and other evolution material. Also made out with 9 million or so beli from all the runs.
This was by far the easiest raid I think, I didn't mind it so much during the second half but initially it was pretty boring. The only anomalous thing was after 132 runs, the PSY lobster only dropped 3 times (plus one beli bag). It definitely had the lowest drop % for all the fodder. The pig drops were a bit annoying, given how not very useful they are without the treasure turtles and other evolution material. Also made out with 9 million or so beli from all the runs.
Dat's a lot of heracles :O
Yeah, I only ended up with 20 copies. Was running out of Mihawks to use, which isn't something that has happened in a while. Lots of people were running Blackbeard, Towel Nami, and Vista. If I'd been able to play earlier I probably could have gotten 50 easily, but this will be enough to get me started. I won't need Heracles maxed until Cerebral is viable in Global, which gives me…a lot of time.
One of my turtle times popped up right after the raid left, so I ran it a bit to get enough EXP to evolve Heracles and Legend Croc (haven't used off-color turtles in a while). If you can, I recommend trying to evolve Heracles before the special boost starts, he gains a socket on evo so you'll get more out of your copies.
One of my turtle times popped up right after the raid left, so I ran it a bit to get enough EXP to evolve Heracles and Legend Croc (haven't used off-color turtles in a while). If you can, I recommend trying to evolve Heracles before the special boost starts, he gains a socket on evo so you'll get more out of your copies.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
I'm scared of pulling since I have both those legends.
Majukun
Member
do you want to max him without waiting for a skillup or something?
For Garp, last time I went
Legend Mihawk/Legend Mihawk
Helmeppo/Whitey Bay
Perona/Vista
I forget exactly why I went with this, tbh. But it could do it reliably, so that worked for me there. For Heracles, I wound up finding that the BB method worked best for me, but the problem is my BB's cooldown being so high, so running a 40 was a no-go. I did a handful of 30s with a Vista team that could beat it reliably. I think I'm spending so much time playing Crows that I'm rusty on this now or something. There's no reason for me to have had so much trouble here, because afaik my units were all there levelwise and whatnot. :shrug:
That sounds great - i dont think there will be a better Sugofest if you are interested in Rayleigh. I will be getting my 450 login gems the day the Sugofest starts - so maybe i will 3-4 times. It depends on what or if we get another Raid next week.
This will be the phrase in my head as my bank account screams in pain...
I feel like Garp's been away the longest, so that's my prediction for next week. Also don't forget the Halloween reruns, that's where a lot of my gems are going.
I'll probably do a couple pulls, but at this point I think I'm going to save up until 3D2Y Robin comes out.
ZekeThePlumber
Member
I'm in the same boat. I already pulled IntHawk twice and I'm not even the guy with 8 legends on his account.
what is it?