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Orange is the New Black - Season 1 on Netflix - Every sentence is a story

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Riggs

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Dude I really like this show, was surprised.

I keep imagining the main blonde chick as Devo hah, goes to prison and tries to change the entire system etc. That is not a diss btw Devo!
 

iammeiam

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Just finished; I think it was easily the best thing Netflix has made so far. The show does an admirable job of giving depth to a number of characters, and providing at least some shading for characters beyond the stock "good" and "villain" characters. Glad season two is confirmed already, as they seeded some decent storylines for the followup season.
 

Bladenic

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Just finished. If it weren't already renewed I'd be pissed at the ending. I need S2 like now.

Congrats Netflix. You now have 2 of my most anticipated shows of next year.
 

Epcott

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I wanted to hold off watching the entire season in 1 sitting.

So I sat down and started watching Saturday, and now it's Sunday and I'm on episode 12. I swear, I need "Poor Impulse Control" tattooed on my forehead. -_-

Such an addicting show.
 

Marjorine

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Binge watched it over the weekend with the girlfriend. We loved it. Quality program. I am going to watch it again at some point here.

It's gonna be a long wait for season 2.
 

Mr.Swag

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About to start episode 5. Missed the last 5 or so minutes of the last episode.
mercys about to leave, and people are hugging her.
my Internet is slow so don't want to reload that video. I miss anything?
 

saunderez

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I wanted to hold off watching the entire season in 1 sitting.

So I sat down and started watching Saturday, and now it's Sunday and I'm on episode 12. I swear, I need "Poor Impulse Control" tattooed on my forehead. -_-

Such an addicting show.

You're not the only one. I planned on rationing, that didn't work at all once I got into it.
 
Did anyone else want to beat Piper's head in while screaming, "you're in prison, not a summer camp, you selfish bitch?"

If it wasn't for the very last scene of the last episode, I would have hated Piper too much to continue watching the show.
 

ivysaur12

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Did anyone else want to beat Piper's head in while screaming, "you're in prison, not a summer camp, you selfish bitch?"

If it wasn't for the very last scene of the last episode, I would have hated Piper too much to continue watching the show.

Some people just have some very warped perceptions of life. I know people who would act JUST like Piper in prison.

Just finished episode 2. This is fucking amazing. The Red v Piper fight is amazing. When Piper realizes that Red was blocking the vending machines... Amazing.
 
i heard "a better son/daughter" on a commercial for this show earlier today and it destroyed my entire day. so basically i'm going to have that song on repeat for the whole night and then eventually watch this show later tomorrow when i have more free time.
 

ivysaur12

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i heard "a better son/daughter" on a commercial for this show earlier today and it destroyed my entire day. so basically i'm going to have that song on repeat for the whole night and then eventually watch this show later tomorrow when i have more free time.

Already happened to me when the first trailer was released.
 
Normally girls like her really aren't my type but...the lady playing Piper is really really attractive too me. Also Donna looks hot with black hair. And lastly Dayanara's sister that she never knew...word.
 

pa22word

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I finished it a couple of days ago, and while I like it overall the setting felt very shallow and as a result never really felt like it was a real place. Say what you want about Oz and its inherent insanity near the end, but despite the insanity for the majority of the show the series did a fantastic job of making Oz feel like it was a real place. You know, like even though the show revolved around a tight set of characters and a specific ward of the prison itself the show still went out of its way to sprinkle in shots of the general population and other guard stations to the point where you could fill in the blanks with your mind to create an entire prison. This show doesn't do any of that, and as such the entire thing comes of as hollow. Like for instance, it seems like there's 4-5 guards for the entire prison in this show lol.
 

Shahadan

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well it's a minimum security prison with females inmates, and apparently not that much anyway. Also, netflix budget.
My biggest concern is how they go on and on about how hell this place is, but it never really feels that way. All I see is a decent prison with a little bit of corruption. Life doesn't seem really hard.
Visually it seemed fake though, especially SHU. Way too clean, with only two or three things carved in the wall by inmates, and strategically placed on top of that :lol:
 

numble

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I strongly dislike the "spoilers are fair game" policy in these Netflix series threads. I think they severely stifle discussion early on because people don't want to come in. People are reluctant to start a separate thread with spoilers because 1) the concept seems inefficient, 2) they are intimidated by the high-quality OP in the official thread, and 3) interest in the show seems artificially low in the first place because people don't want to enter the original thread.

I'm sorry, but it's insane to come in here and be at a high risk of having the season finale spoiled on the day that the series is released.

Personally I liked the 1 month wait time in the House of Cards thread, but if that's too long, then at least give it a week or so.

/rant

I'm five episodes in and am captivated. A Star Trek reference was mentioned in here and I guess I missed it; can someone fill me in?
I for one am watching and I actively avoid this thread because I know spoilers may be rampant.
 

iammeiam

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My biggest concern is how they go on and on about how hell this place is, but it never really feels that way. All I see is a decent prison with a little bit of corruption. Life doesn't seem really hard.

I thought the opposite--that they did a fairly decent job of demonstrating how prison could be soul-crushing without resorting to making it a cliche over-the-top place. They do a decent job of illustrating the opposite, too--for people like Taystee it's not a great place, but prison is a step up from where she'd be on the outside.

For people who have something waiting outside, though, the official loss of freedom and unofficial ruleset is oppressive enough to be extremely stressful. It 's not unbearably bad bad in the moment, but the endless grind day by day and knowing it stretches out for months in the future is just too much. Plus they use Shu and Psych and references to max security to establish that they all know things could be much worse.

I was even willing to buy the institutional cleanness of the place. The one thing that felt fake to me was the moldy bologna. Disgusting mashed together leftovers? Sure. Actually moldy food felt out of synch with the world they'd shown so far.

Also, calling it now: if the show makes it to season 3, the warden's executive assistant is going to end up as a prisoner.
 

thefil

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Pornstache is a good villain, but Healy is more terrifyingly real to me. He is the feminist nightmare "nice guy" who treats his relationships with women as transaction. Any woman who falls outside his ability to transact with (see: lesbians) is infuriating to him and must be delusional or "not herself".

The show does an amazing job making him just as sinister as he would be in real life. At first he seems to be a friend and a trustworthy ally, and then as soon as you don't give him what he "deserves" he seeks to destroy you. The scene between him and his green-card wife begins to cement his worldview and then it becomes gross from there.
 
Pornstache is a good villain, but Healy is more terrifyingly real to me. He is the feminist nightmare "nice guy" who treats his relationships with women as transaction. Any woman who falls outside his ability to transact with (see: lesbians) is infuriating to him and must be delusional or "not herself".

The show does an amazing job making him just as sinister as he would be in real life. At first he seems to be a friend and a trustworthy ally, and then as soon as you don't give him what he "deserves" he seeks to destroy you. The scene between him and his green-card wife begins to cement his worldview and then it becomes gross from there.

I got the impression he was seedy and not-so-nice when he began to ask early on if Piper was raped and if she could describe it.
 

Bladenic

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Pornstache is a good villain, but Healy is more terrifyingly real to me. He is the feminist nightmare "nice guy" who treats his relationships with women as transaction. Any woman who falls outside his ability to transact with (see: lesbians) is infuriating to him and must be delusional or "not herself".

The show does an amazing job making him just as sinister as he would be in real life. At first he seems to be a friend and a trustworthy ally, and then as soon as you don't give him what he "deserves" he seeks to destroy you. The scene between him and his green-card wife begins to cement his worldview and then it becomes gross from there.

I hope he gets what's coming to him after what he did in the season finale.
 

thefil

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I got the impression he was seedy and not-so-nice when he began to ask early on if Piper was raped and if she could describe it.

Yeah, I was worried as soon as Lorna said "he gets his paperwork done on time". I just held out hope that he would be OK because he was at the time the only authority figure in the prison who seemed even potentially likable.

We got the two young, attractive, ethically-inclined COs down the line so I guess it's OK.
 

Bladenic

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Oh God it killed me when
the young female guard (can't remember her name I'm afraid) was trying to act tough and provoked Miss Claudette. I was so sad about Miss Claudette's fate ;_;
 
Episode 3 really took me by surprise. That had to be to my eye the most frank and honest portrayal of the difficulties of transition for a transgendered individual and her family that I've ever seen. And the actress... she's truly transgendered, isn't she? Has there ever been a transgendered individual in a more prominent role before? I genuinely don't know, but it's fantastic to see.

Yes, her name is Laverne Cox and she is a transgender woman. It is one of the first (or the very first?) times a trans character is actually played by trans actor in a major television series, and it really is fantastic to see.

This article about her is a good source of info if you're interested:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/thomaspagemcbee/how-actress-laverne-cox-broke-the-trans-glass-ceiling
 
List from most despicable to least despicable on the show:

Mama Diaz
Crazy Jesus Chick
Healy
Pornstache

The warden's assistant belongs on that list, even if at the bottom. Then under her is the other mustache guy (whose job I still haven't been able to figure out).

Also Diaz's psycho bald boyfriend is probably at the very top of that list.
 
Did anyone else want to beat Piper's head in while screaming, "you're in prison, not a summer camp, you selfish bitch?"

If it wasn't for the very last scene of the last episode, I would have hated Piper too much to continue watching the show.

Disagree, Pie-Fucker always felt like the more selfish one in the relationship. I'm not saying Piper was right to cheat on him, but I get it.
 

iammeiam

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Disagree, Pie-Fucker always felt like the more selfish one in the relationship. I'm not saying Piper was right to cheat on him, but I get it.

I could sympathize with Piper most of the time, but she lost me when she started talking about a future with Alex, after learning the truth, then dropped her again the second her fiancée gave her another chance. Her actions there kind of confirmed Crazy Eyes was right--She's NOT a very nice person. Then at the end she goes running back to Alex and just... Ugh.
 

Amir0x

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The show is really interesting. I'm really glad a show with a voice like this exists. It's by no means A grade yet, but it's got some extremely powerful episodes, some of the most unique and genuine portrayals of members of the LGBT community I've ever seen, and it has a distinctive feel to the production that seems positively humanitarian at times. I really would have never thought Jenji Kohan had it in her, considering Weeds was a colossal mess after the second season.

I like it a lot more than House of Cards, which simply grated on me with Kevin Spacey's look-into-the-camera-and-narrate-own-life shit. I fucking loathe that storytelling technique so hard.
 
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