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Orange is the New Black - Season 1 on Netflix - Every sentence is a story
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Wasn't that lifted directly from the original UK version?
I never watched the UK version, but if it was, all that means is I'd want to not watch the UK version as well
To me it's just a technique I cannot at all connect with, it makes me cold to the material. I don't need people explaining into the camera what is going on. To me, that's almost like a crutch the way it is used. But, that's just my position... I understand many enjoyed it despite this.
Agreed with it being better than AD S4, and I'm only the 5th episode. My god what a disappointment that was.
what I especially enjoyed was how deftly it wove the current ever present storyline with Piper in prison with unique tales regarding how individual female prisoners got where they are. It's really classy stuff the way it has been handled so far.
I can see this show turning into A tier television given more time to develop in future seasons. Right now it's B+ tier for me with about three A+ tier episodes, which is excellent for a first season. Usually first seasons start a bit rough.
I seriously cannot believe Kohan made this.
Why not? First season of Weeds was good. I expect this show to drown in mediocrity by the third one.
Season 1 of Weeds was decent, maybe even good, but this is definitely a whole entire different level of quality. It deals with poignant issues infinitely more maturely than Weeds ever did, and the direction and writing in general is just notched way up and above. And since these are much longer episodes than the average Weed ep, it also amazed me how consistent the quality of the content was.
I never would have thought she was capable of this. Maybe season 2 and beyond will be terrible or extremely mediocre at best, though, and I'll go back to thinking she just doesn't have what it takes to run a show for the long term
*First three seasons. First 2, at least.
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Watched a bunch yesterday. Really surprised at how much I like it. It's an interesting look into female dynamics and a unique view on females in prisons.
This third episode is crushing and is one of the best portrayals of a transgendered person I've seen on television. The flashbacks are never necessary to the main narrative, but are incredibly revealing and earnest. What a wonderful structure.
I wish I could be more verbose about how powerful this episode is. I'm just really lost for words.
Also, fuck, this show can be funny. Disarmingly so.
I wish I could be more verbose about how powerful this episode is. I'm just really lost for words.
Also, fuck, this show can be funny. Disarmingly so.
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I actually wish there was more flashbacks. Something to similar to Lost structure. It's fascinating to see these characters out of prison.
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Great character.
EDIT: Also, how do Piper and her husband live so comfortably? She is unemployed with hopes of earning a lot of money with her friend's business, and he's a writer with only some amount of success.
So glad to see you confirming my view on that episode (Edit: I just read stump's fantastic post on the subject! He totally has it right, absolutely echos my feelings on episode 3 and everything. Said it way better than I could have). I obviously don't have any experience as being anything more than curious, so I've never had these life experiences that so many in the LGBT community have. But that episode felt incredibly authentic and genuine to me, like it came from a real place, and it seemed to be the most accurate portrayal about the difficulty of transition ever put on television. It immediately put me in a different mode for what level the show was playing at. This show had something real to say. It's almost humanitarian in nature, as I said earlier.
They make mention that they cannot borrow anymore money from their parents.
At some point in the show, Jason Biggs mentions "no longer asking their parents for money."
DAMNIT
Miss Claudette ;_;
And yes I actually wanted more flashbacks for more characters. But I'm happy with what we got.
If you look at the opening credits, I think that's it. It's about these haunting glances of real people, attacking expectations through revealing narrative.
I actually was just talking to a friend about how I don't know any openly trans people and that I'm largely ignorant to their struggle. Sure, I can empathize on a conceptual level, but it's much more real when the pains of the struggle are witnessed. This really floored me and I was almost in tears by the end. What a woman.
Just finished. So good. It's killing me that I'm gonna have to wait another year for season 2.
By the end,
This! I know flashbacks are a point of contention for a lot of people, but I really loved them in this show. I was frustrated that the episodes in the middle skimped on flashbacks (Nicky deserved more than two scenes, etc.). Also, I wish Crazy Eyes had an episode. I guess with 13 episodes you can only do so much.
By the end,
Yeah, Healy felt way more antagonistic than Pornstache. That moment where he sees Piper and the Jesus girl (I forget her name) and then just walks away...
This! I know flashbacks are a point of contention for a lot of people, but I really loved them in this show. I was frustrated that the episodes in the middle skimped on flashbacks (Nicky deserved more than two scenes, etc.). Also, I wish Crazy Eyes had an episode. I guess with 13 episodes you can only do so much.
I think the problem people usually have with flashbacks is not the case for this show. With typical flashbacks in shows or movies, the scene serves to stop the plot dead in its tracks, reiterate info we already know, force the character to recall some cheesy inspirational line or something. In this show, the flashbacks work in congress with the present day scenes, deftly weaving together similar themes and enhancing background shading that gives the prisoners motivations weight and nuance.
Orange is the New Black simply understands how to use them extremely effectively.
Exactly! It's so great.
I fully expect/want/demand a Suzanne episode next season. And more elaboration on other characters as well.
It's like a bunch of Consider Helens.
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i like her. we need more.
anyways. i watched the first season. very good. sucks to have to wait for a 2nd season.
Really great show. Favorite character is Crazy eyes. Nearly lost it when you see her with her parents who are old upper class white from Ct. Then when she starts "acting" for the teenagers they bring in. So good.
Like I said above, I always end up literally in tears when does "Chocolate-and-Vanilla Swirr-url! Swiiiir-url!"
Really great show. Favorite character is Crazy eyes. Nearly lost it when you see her with her parents who are old upper class white from Ct. Then when she starts "acting" for the teenagers they bring in. So good.
The Scared Straight segment was one of the highlights of the season for sure.
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The meth head Jesus freak is really good at that role.
Am I the only one thinking about this after watching this show? The lesbian stuff seems so "natural" (for lack of a better term) to me cos Piper, Alex, Lorna and Nicky are all kind of hot. Was it a conscious decision by the creators? They "manned" up Tricia in jail and Boo's not cute at all so more lesbian scenes for those girls would have been more realistic but maybe not as appealing to straight guys (Mercy was hawt tho). I kind of feel I'd think more of it if it was dudes or uncute girls getting it on. I'm kind of judging myself lol
Ps: I know this reads kind of homophobic but it's really not
Ps: I know this reads kind of homophobic but it's really not
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Scared Straight episode is amazing, OMG.
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Yep, Red is a badass. And agree on Piper. It's actually kind of funny as the show goes on I feel like it's less and less about her. There are long parts of some episodes where she's barely in it.
The meth head Jesus freak is really good at that role.
I really hated her. They didn't even try to make us sympathize with her except when she's in the psych ward.
I also disliked Red at the end of the season.
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Waited until I finished the season to come in here.
Interested in what is to follow and how soon we'll get it. I want more!
Interested in what is to follow and how soon we'll get it. I want more!
Seriously? Men's prisons have female guards too.
Just finished the series, easily the most enjoyable series from Netflix. House of Cards became a chore for me because I just didn't give a shit for any of the characters, no likeable characters in that show. With Orange is has a great wide variety of characters, some you care for and some you love to hate. I agree that the lead isn't the most interesting of the cast but thankfully the show has her surrounded with interesting characters. Considering the show's setting they can easily bring in new characters without much problem. Just hope they plan things out well more multiple seasons.
This way that Netflix release shows is a little cruel. I got through it in 2 days, now how long do I have to wait for season 2?
Yeah I have a love/hate thing with it as well. It also does away with the weekly discussion and speculation around a great new show. I miss that.
It's nice to not have to wait a week for the next ep though
PS: I also think it was much better than HoC (which I liked)
Well I'm glad something out there has the power to create shows without thinking about ratings. This show as a regular weekly airing would have probably been much different in content, and I'm not sure that many people would turn their TV on each week for it.
It's kinda a Firefly situation to me, it's really good as a whole but one episode each week was a recipe for disaster (Orange much less so though)
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