Cornballer
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We'll have to see if they handle OitNB the same way as House of Cards. HoC was sold to international distributors for broadcast, and they also released dvd/blu-ray sets of the first season.
Orange is the New Black - Season 1 on Netflix - Every sentence is a story
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Pornstache being obsessed with Daya feels really forced.
LSauchelli
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One thing I find amazing is that Netflix not only releases the whole season on one go, but also has spanish dub ready from day 1.
BomberMouse
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Almost finished with the season. Piper is making it unbearable to watch, don't know how much longer they can stretch the same characters/situations. I liked it, can't see it going for a S3.
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I saw the ending coming but... :/
Cornballer
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That's because Nancy was a selfish bitch from the get go. She never grew or changed from start to finish.
Yeah, and I wasn't a fan of Daya's storyline in prison either honestly.
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Yep, love how they did that. I thought Joe would end up being the huge dirt bag, but he wasn't too bad.
The Illiterati
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The wife and I loved this series. Our favorite line from our favorite character, Suzanne:
"I used to think you were a yellow dandelion, now I know you just a old stem with the puff blown off."
So good! We loved how every character gets multiple shades from comedic to sympathetic to flawed and the show doesn't rest on one interpretation. That the flashbacks aren't tied to one character per episode is also key I think, because it allowed them to move the story wherever it needed.
I want to know how much they are sticking to reality of Piper Kerman's story with this show in general, or if they are willing to go completely off the map. (I'm also not looking for fear of spoilers)
BTW, someone mentioned Tatiana Maslany....oh if only Orphan Black wasn't also fantastic and successful...she would be amazing on this show!
"I used to think you were a yellow dandelion, now I know you just a old stem with the puff blown off."
So good! We loved how every character gets multiple shades from comedic to sympathetic to flawed and the show doesn't rest on one interpretation. That the flashbacks aren't tied to one character per episode is also key I think, because it allowed them to move the story wherever it needed.
I want to know how much they are sticking to reality of Piper Kerman's story with this show in general, or if they are willing to go completely off the map. (I'm also not looking for fear of spoilers)
BTW, someone mentioned Tatiana Maslany....oh if only Orphan Black wasn't also fantastic and successful...she would be amazing on this show!
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They should do a crossover with Helena, lol.
I don't think it has very much to do with the book, it's just an inspiration.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I think it would be great if they reveal that crazy eyes in there for some white collar fraud kind of shit. It would fit her parents and the fact there is clearly an intelligent brain behind the crazy.
ThLunarian
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I choose to believe that Yoga Jones actually IS Patti Mayonnaise as an adult. It makes me wonder what Doug Funnie is up to.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
He's growing that kush, playa
He was probably her main customer lbr
Cornballer
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- Alyssa Rosenberg: Why Orange Is The New Blacks Setting Makes It One Of The Best Shows On Television
- Washington Post: Orange is the New Black is the best TV show about prison ever made
- Washington Post: Orange is the New Black is the best TV show about prison ever made
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Crazy Eyes is really one of the biggest surprises of this show. Surprisingly deep and funny character. I hope she's an even bigger part of season 2 and we see a flashback episode. When she
was hitting herself on stage at the end I was cracking up.
The lady and I are on the last episode, so we look to finish it tonight. And we started it on Tuesday...so yeah, we like it.
I pretty much like one or more aspect of every character, and particularly enjoy how well they've flipped your impressions about certain characters (to the point where I feel legitimately bad about comments I made about Crazy Eyes earlier in the show).
I really am finding myself actively disliking Piper though, and maybe that's the point. I just find her to be endlessly self-centered and insufferable. Larry isn't much better. Not that I take the show too seriously, but it REALLY bothers me that Larry wouldn't just write a column with the names changed. That kind of stuff happens all the time, and I would think this would be a situation that such a thing would be almost logically required for the very reasons that played out.
I pretty much like one or more aspect of every character, and particularly enjoy how well they've flipped your impressions about certain characters (to the point where I feel legitimately bad about comments I made about Crazy Eyes earlier in the show).
I really am finding myself actively disliking Piper though, and maybe that's the point. I just find her to be endlessly self-centered and insufferable. Larry isn't much better. Not that I take the show too seriously, but it REALLY bothers me that Larry wouldn't just write a column with the names changed. That kind of stuff happens all the time, and I would think this would be a situation that such a thing would be almost logically required for the very reasons that played out.
Norwegian Rudo
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Just finished. Pornstache is my least favorite part of this show. Him being in it makes it difficult to take anything happening seriously. After watching every episode, I'm still very annoyed that the whole basis for
It was a good show, but I'm not clamoring for more.
her being in jail is that she got snitched out by her girlfriend from 10 years ago. That doesn't seem like enough evidence to send anyone to jail; Did her lawyer (Jason Bigg's characters dad) sell her out to get her out of his sons life?
It was a good show, but I'm not clamoring for more.
I think that was implied, that he sold her out. Her mother said something like any lawyer could have got Piper out of prison time because all they had was testimony against her, let alone testimony that was from ten years ago from a vindictive ex. Larry's parents also acted like they didn't support the relationship, at least IMO.
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Well that's kind of a spoiler.
I actually never thought of that. Hmmm wonder if this will be addressed in S2.
I kind of suspected she didn't beat her to death. It looked brutal, but I didn't think she killed her. Kind of the whole "they're not dead till you see them dead" argument.
Also, fuck yes I love the spoiler button.
Norwegian Rudo
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Good news. I have seen some negative comments about her character, but I thought she was great.
The only thing I really thought made no sense in the show was how they let her out of the psych ward.
Sure, Piper admitted setting her up, but she still did what she was sent there for. And no way would they have let someone as obviously whacko as her out once she was there.
Cornballer
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I haven't finished the season, so I'm just blind-posting news as I see it.
Plea deal. She didn't want to risk a trial
I know, but there's no reason she would
have feared trial. There was one witness, who happened to be a spurned ex-gf looking for her own deal. It also happened ten years ago, which makes any other evidence seem unlikely. I'd have to imagine that her lawyer talked her into the deal despite it being horrible, most likely to get her away from his son.
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Yeah I kind of expected that too but now it's confirmed.
beelzebozo
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morello.
i love this character. the delivery of her dialogue in the first scene she's in, in the van, is so natural and funny i was sold the actor is a total star.
i love this character. the delivery of her dialogue in the first scene she's in, in the van, is so natural and funny i was sold the actor is a total star.
I think it's implied that there was a lot more evidence against her. IIRC Piper says in the first episode that there were ten or eleven people who could have testified against her. Between that, video surveillance, etc., Piper's incarceration hardly seems like a plot flaw.
BomberMouse
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So regarding the ending
I'm afraid the show would turn into a sitcom, I don't see how they could generate new storylines besides getting new inmates.
Piper killed her, got 5 more years so we get 9 more seasons of this?
I'm afraid the show would turn into a sitcom, I don't see how they could generate new storylines besides getting new inmates.
It's not a plot flaw because Larry's dad intentionally told her to plea out instead of challenging the charge. She didn't even know who her accuser was, and you normally would have all that information before you decide to go for a plea bargain.
In real life, Piper Kerman spent several years trying to fight her charge until ending up having to serve time. She was charged in 1998 and didn't serve time until 2004, even though she did eventually plea out.
Did the events of the finale dealing with Piper happen in real life? I get a feeling a lot of that was changed for TV. You don't have to be specific, yeah, no or I don't know will be enough.
I think the only thing they really took was that she was a white girl engaged and busted for something she did a decade ago. Pretty sure everything else from there was fiction for TV. I haven't read the book, but in interviews that seems to be what's implied.
LSauchelli
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It's based on a true story where this actually happened. It doesn't really matter anyway, maybe her lawyer didn't think his son would stay with him during the whole ordeal? I doubt we're going to see him admit anything of the sort anyway.
From what I've read about the book, Piper goes into detail about the characters she meets more than herself. And some of the characters (Red, Crazy Eyes, the nun) seem lifted from the book....probably more of them. Also, Piper and Alex's story was lifted from the book from what I saw....at least what Piper gives of it.
I think I enjoyed the season a lot more after I stopped expecting any kind of meaningful storylines or character development - it's pure Weeds-like dramedy.
Also I don't know if this show was supporting it, but I found the whole idea that Piper is just as selfish and bad after the radio program to be completely ridiculous. Hey, Crazy Eyes, you did stalk Piper! Red, you starved her out! Old inmate, you were a total bitch to her!
Also I don't know if this show was supporting it, but I found the whole idea that Piper is just as selfish and bad after the radio program to be completely ridiculous. Hey, Crazy Eyes, you did stalk Piper! Red, you starved her out! Old inmate, you were a total bitch to her!
Woody Invincible
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Three episodes left. This show is top tier.
Episode 10 is right up there with Firefly's Out of Gas episode.
Episode 10 is right up there with Firefly's Out of Gas episode.
Norwegian Rudo
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From Piper's POV. I think it's safe to say that wouldn't be how they remembered what happened.
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