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[effzee]

I'd take it even further. Once the 3rd level dream was introduced, the film became a mess. There really isn't any way in hell he deserves the nom with how weak the film was overall.

He doesn't deserve the nomination because the movie becomes a mess but it deserves best picture? I get that people have opinions that the movie is "overhyped", "overrated", or just not good but when a movie gets such mass critical and commercial praise and is nominated for BEST MOVIE it has merits and the director is to be considered for his work.

Besides I doubt the Academy thinking process is so black white. Its not just MESS and GREATNESS. They kinda did this to themselves with having 10 best film nominations and only 5 director nominations. That leaves 5 movies worthy of being called BEST PICTURE whose directors won't even get nominated.

I guess I am biased because I loved the movie from the beginning to end and loved everything that went on at the end with Cobb and Mal but I guess the Academy had to cut someone out and the director of a "summer movie" or "blockbuster" is a lot easier to cut. Just like with Toy Story 3. Thats why increasing the nominations to 10 kinda cheapens the category. The academy recognizes it BUT...

 

[Skiptastic]

First off, Hailee Steinfeld for supporting actress. SUPPORTING?!! Is that what it means when the motherfucking movie revolves around your character?!! Supporting?!! There's not even another actress in this movie outside of the old maid!!

I think it's the responsibility of the producers to determine what nomination each role goes towards. So blame the Coens?

Here's what Wikipedia says:

Currently, according to Rules 2 and 3 of the official Academy Awards Rules, a film must open in the previous calendar year, from midnight at the start of January 1 to midnight at the end of December 31, in Los Angeles County, California, to qualify (except for the Best Foreign Language Film).[24] For example, the 2010 Best Picture winner, The Hurt Locker, was actually first released in 2008, but did not qualify for the 2009 awards as it did not play its Oscar-qualifying run in Los Angeles until mid-2009, thus qualifying for the 2010 awards.

Rule 2 states that a film must be feature-length, defined as a minimum of 40 minutes, except for short subject awards, and it must exist either on a 35 mm or 70 mm film print or in 24 frame/s or 48 frame/s progressive scan digital cinema format with native resolution not less than 1280x720.

Producers must submit an Official Screen Credits online form before the deadline; in case it is not submitted by the defined deadline, the film will be ineligible for Academy Awards in any year. The form includes the production credits for all related categories. Then, each form is checked and put in a Reminder List of Eligible Releases.

In late December ballots and copies of the Reminder List of Eligible Releases are mailed to around 6000 active members. For most categories, members from each of the branches vote to determine the nominees only in their respective categories (i.e. only directors vote for directors, writers for writers, actors for actors, etc.); there are some exceptions though in the case of certain categories, like Foreign Film, Documentary and Animated Feature Film in which movies are selected by special screening committees made up of members from all branches. In the special case of Best Picture, all voting members are eligible to select the nominees for that category. Foreign films must include English subtitles, and each country can only submit one film per year.[25]

 

[ultron87]

He doesn't deserve the nomination because the movie becomes a mess but it deserves best picture? I get that people have opinions that the movie is "overhyped", "overrated", or just not good but when a movie gets such mass critical and commercial praise and is nominated for BEST MOVIE it has merits and the director is to be considered for his work.

Being one of the ten best movies according to the Academy doesn't automatically qualify him as one of the five best directors according to the Academy.

 

[mr stroke]

TSN is electronic.

sorry, I should have bolded "house/techno" not electronic music. I am sure a lot of Inceptions score is electronic as well.

but Tron is electronic with a heavy "house/techno" influence. If you hate dance music chances are you won't care for Tron's score.

 

[06nbarnhill]

Holy fuck, I love How to train Dragon, but I start to really hate their super mega fanatics, the majority that praise the film have to trash talk about toy story 3, and the majority of the time they dont even have arguments.
The most one that ive heard, is not the best Pixar movie...
Is not the best...
Of course its not the best if you usually always make movies of 11/10 and you make a 10.5 movie!
But that means that even if Toy Story 3 is a 10, or a 9, doesnt mind the scale, How to train a dragon will always be technically below it, becuase its not as good.

People praise to fucking much HTTAD because it comes of a legacy of fucking shitty movies were it shines like the brightest star in the sky. Its good, really good, but not fucking perfect like some people are praising because it still has some VERY shitty things that doesnt make it mega great,
I cant praise to the heavens a movie were 80% of the cast are shitty dreamwork characters, with their fucking dreamwork smirk smiles, and their fucking bad jokes and that they seem to be made for you to hate them. All the kids besides the main character are fucking atrocious.
You have 4, FOUR good characters in the movie. The father, the kid and the dragon and the guy without a hand. The others range all from mediocre to horrible.

And really, I cant understand people that say the ending is excellent and that it makes cry, and blah, blah... I saw it from a fucking mile for gods sake, it was as typical as it gets.

Now tell me, in Toy Story 3, what the majority of people felt during the scene were the toys

Spoiler

were going to be burned

, I still have goosebumps with that scene, and I know what is going to happen, i even thought during the whole movie the first time I was watchin that

Spoiler

Slinky was going to die

, but surprise there!
Or the ending, now that is how you end a trilogy, THAT is a perfect ending.
And at least you dont want to punch 80% of the characters in their throat, yeah, you could argue that the villian group is not so good (apart from the bear boss), but the old cast and the new toys (for fucks sake, they made barbie and ken awesome) are incredible.

Its the syndrome of the underdog vs the always winner, but come on, this is not a Rocky movie, a Pixar is not the movie villian.

Toy Story 3 is going to win because its the better movie FULL STOP.

Your post was by far the most hateful and judgmental post by EITHER side so maybe you should be answering those questions for yourself.

The reason I really dislike pixar fans.....its can never be about the film. They ALWAYS make it about the studio as if that has some effect on the film itself. You lose all credibility when you whine that HTTYD is only good because other dreamworks films are all bad (they aren't so yet another delusion).

SO many of your arguments are half assed...like there only being 4 strong characters. Hell I would say there are only two but thats a GOOD thing. To have other strong characters taking up air in the film would have cheapened the Hiccup/Toothless relationship. Hell, the directors wrote out several cool characters late.

My problem with TS3 was that it had almost the exact same theme of abandonment and belonging as the first two films. It was the same theme set to 3 plots.

...and seriously....calm down.

 

[JGS]

I don't think people who have this feeling really understand what a director does, or what their main focus is. Considering how incredibly flat and underutilized all the talented actors were in Inception, it would be rather tragic to see him nominated. Also considering how fucking incredible the characters were in TKS and The Fighter, specifically the supporting ensemble, I think Russell and Hooper got what they deserved.

Aargh

Editing was pretty bad during some scenes. Highly bad during the Arianne/Cobb cafe scene where street erupts.

Aargh

I'd take it even further. Once the 3rd level dream was introduced, the film became a mess. There really isn't any way in hell he deserves the nom with how weak the film was overall.

Aargh

That is all.

 

[Pinzer]

yep. definitely. In Motion and A Familiar Taste are so unst unst

 

[Korey]

He doesn't deserve the nomination because the movie becomes a mess but it deserves best picture?

It won't win best picture, don't you worry about that

 

[BertramCooper]

It is exceedingly rare for a non-Oscar caliber film to get nominated for Best Score, no matter how good the score is.

It's just the way it goes.

 

[WillyFive]

It is exceedingly rare for a non-Oscar caliber film to get nominated for Best Score, no matter how good the score is.

It's just the way it goes.

Yeah. It's unfair, really.

 

[YagizY]

Hahah How to Train Your Dragon is nominated for Best Score while their is no appearance of Daft Punk's TRON score. Wow what a joke. It doesn't matter though, another slightly above average film (Social Network) will end up winning everything any way.

 

[BertramCooper]

Hahah How to Train Your Dragon is nominated for Best Score while their is no appearance of Daft Punk's TRON score. Wow what a joke. It doesn't matter though, another slightly above average film (Social Network) will end up winning everything any way.

How is How to Train Your Dragon's score getting nominated a joke?

It's really freaking good.

 

[giga]

Hahah How to Train Your Dragon is nominated for Best Score while their is no appearance of Daft Punk's TRON score. Wow what a joke. It doesn't matter though, another slightly above average film (Social Network) will end up winning everything any way.

How To Train Your Dragon’s score is fantastic.

 

[Pakkidis]

I can see Inception winning best original screenplay however I don't think it will win anything else

 

[06nbarnhill]

How To Train Your Dragon’s score is fantastic.

Yup. Incredible.

I would rather have it win the Score over Animated Feature if I could choose (John Powell doesn't have an Oscar yet)

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

Your post was by far the most hateful and judgmental post by EITHER side so maybe you should be answering those questions for yourself.

The reason I really dislike pixar fans.....its can never be about the film. They ALWAYS make it about the studio as if that has some effect on the film itself. You lose all credibility when you whine that HTTYD is only good because other dreamworks films are all bad (they aren't so yet another delusion).

SO many of your arguments are half assed...like there only being 4 strong characters. Hell I would say there are only two but thats a GOOD thing. To have other strong characters taking up air in the film would have cheapened the Hiccup/Toothless relationship. Hell, the directors wrote out several cool characters late.

My problem with TS3 was that it had almost the exact same theme of abandonment and belonging as the first two films. It was the same theme set to 3 plots.

...and seriously....calm down.

Hateful, in a thread of people saying to cock sucking pixar and hating toy story 3 becuase of simply hating it?
Get the swearing out of my post, that was more becuase of writting it after reading those comments (and I know I didnt need to do it and it was not right), and it has sense.
Yeah, im sorry, but dreamworks does usually bad movies and pixar good, its not about hating something and loving the other, it becuase its the truth.
The same as saying Cars is not good, that is also a truth, the same truth as saying HTTYD is a really good film.

Even if Toy Story 3 feels like home with the other two, is written, directed and animated in such a manner, that is nearly perfect.
Not the same thing I can say of HTTYD. Excellent actions sequences, good score and two good characters with good chemistry between them (I put two more characters, the father and the viking without a hand, because those two were the ones I didnt want to hit in the face) dont make an excellent movie. And sorry but the excuse you made of having shitty characters to strengthen the two main characters is bad, and I mean really bad, the only thing you do like this is lowering the quality of the movie. You can have two GREAT characters, accompanied with another excellent cast, just look at Woody and Buzz, both are excellent, but mixed with the rest of the toys, you create magic.
Magic im not seeing in HTTYD. And thats why in my opinion, even if, as you said, Toy Story 3 is similar to its brothers, its still full of magic that deserves winning over a very good movie like HTTYD.

And I will change my opinion about Dreamworks when I see facts, and I have to say that making HTTYD is a very good start.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

Was The Fighter really that good? From the previews it seemed like one of the most outdated and hackneyed movies this year.

The first half of The Fighter is excellent. The second half of The Fighter is every boxing movie you've ever seen. The acting from Bale, Adams, and Leo is fantastic throughout, and Wahlberg gives a pretty decent performance as well.

Edit: Inception getting a screenplay nomination is a joke. I'm sorry, even if you like the movie, the fact that every non-Leo character is underdeveloped and poorly limned (with the possible exceptions of Tom Hardy and Cillian Murphy) is pretty indisputable.

 

[Ridley327]

Unfortunately, I don't think Nolan will get nominated for an Oscar for directing. He's done comic book movies, something the academy doesn't seem to think are fit to grace their halls. I have a feeling they've branded him. If it wasn't for the Dark Knight, we would hardly have ever seen a comic book movie in their presence other than for effects, etc.

I'm not really calling you out or anything, but you have guys like Francis Ford Coppola and Jonathan Demme who cut their teeth on grade A Roger Corman schlock before finding incredible critical acclaim for their breakthrough features (which, in Coppola's case, just so happened to be The Godfather). I don't think Nolan has been branded as damaged goods or anything; I just think he had the misfortune of having to compete with the Weinstein brothers' most heavily promoted film they've done since their days at Miramax.

 

[Farmboy]

Man, fuck the Academy.

First off, Hailee Steinfeld for supporting actress. SUPPORTING?!! Is that what it means when the motherfucking movie revolves around your character?!! Supporting?!! There's not even another actress in this movie outside of the old maid!!

According to Roger Ebert: "Although she obviously played the lead in "True Grit," 12-year-old Hailee Steinfeld was nominated for best supporting actress. Academy rules say if you receive votes for both categories, your nomination comes in the category where you have the most votes. Paramount encouraged voters to choose the supporting category, where Steinfeld becomes the front-runner, and not the top category, where she didn't have a chance."

I agree that it's kind of stupid though. Reminds me of Jaime Foxx being nominated for Best Supporting Actor in Collateral, in which he was quite cleary the main character.

Btw, Shutter Island got robbed. It at least deserved nods for directing and cinematography (certainly more than the rather dull look of The King's Speech). Perhaps even visual effects; I'd say its nightmare sequences were tons more visually inventive than most of Inception (and I do like Inception). Also: Shutter Island-Mark Ruffalo >>> Kids Are All Right-Mark Ruffalo. Damn the academy and its two month memory span.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Fucking LOL at Inception getting a sound mixing nom.

 

[Borgnine]

An award for editing has always seemed so weird to me. Like, how the hell do we know unless we see all the elements they had to work with? Also sound mixing to a lesser extent.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Fucking LOL at Inception getting a sound mixing nom.

Hey, our people did good work on that one.

An award for editing has always seemed so weird to me. Like, how the hell do we know unless we see all the elements they had to work with? Also sound mixing to a lesser extent.

That's up to the individual Academy branches to manage, like the bakeoff for VFX. Not sure what they do for audio, since I'm not really involved in that area.

 

[aceface]

Daft Punk were robbed. I wanted to see them at the ceremony in robot suits damnit.

 

[brandonh83]

The version of HTTYD I saw was full of "magical" and soulful moments. It had way more heart than any other movie I saw last year. The scenes between Hiccup and Toothless were astounding.

TS3 did nothing for me emotionally at all other than the ending, which I just found to be satisfying but not tearjerking or anything.

 

[BertramCooper]

I think age plays into it as well.

With a few rare exceptions, Hollywood does not acknowledge children as lead actors, no matter how big their roles are.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Hey, our people did good work on that one.


That's up to the individual Academy branches to manage, like the bakeoff for VFX. Not sure what they do for audio, since I'm not really involved in that area.

I'm sorry, your people almost always do excellent work, but I guess I couldn't hear what anybody was saying over the polyester carpet shoved in Watanabe's mouth. Apparently it was there for the entire first half of the film.

 

[06nbarnhill]

Hateful, in a thread of people saying to cock sucking pixar and hating toy story 3 becuase of simply hating it?

And I will change my opinion about Dreamworks when I see facts, and I have to say that making HTTYD is a very good start.

Once again....studio is irrelevant to film quality.

lol @ Cock sucking pixar.......so much propaganda in you post. That is NOT talking facts.

I told u why I dislike TS3. You ignored it. You are obviously NOT looking for a real discussion.

 

[WillyFive]

over the polyester carpet shoved in Watanabe's mouth. Apparently it was there for the entire first half of the film.

Huh?

 

[Discotheque]

Huh?

Sound was really messed up for the first half-hour or so. To the point where the soundtrack was much louder than the dialogue, and not in an intentional way I'd imagine.

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

The version of HTTYD I saw was full of "magical" and soulful moments. It had way more heart than any other movie I saw last year. The scenes between Hiccup and Toothless were astounding.

TS3 did nothing for me emotionally at all other than the ending, which I just found to be satisfying but not tearjerking or anything.

Not for you, but thats a matter of opinion, and I respect that.
To more people TS3 meant more than to you, and that reflects in the majority of the opinions, as well as mine, that doesnt make less your opinion though.

Now, its totally good to say you liked better, or you felt the movie had more soul, but I was talking of people bashing Toy Stroy 3 only becuase they want HTTYD to win.

If you feel HTTTD the movie of the year for you, why does it have to tell you someone or an award the contrary, good for you.

 

[WillyFive]

Sound was really messed up for the first half-hour or so. To the point where the soundtrack was much louder than the dialogue, and not in an intentional way I'd imagine.

I didn't notice that at all. Maybe it was a technical problem from when you watched it?

 

[Blader]

I haven't seen Blue Valentine but I'm reaaaaaaally sure that Michelle Williams turned in the best female performance of the year. She's a really good actress.

edit: Should probably change that to fairly sure. Oh wait, Mulligan was great in Never Let Me Go though. God damn, huge snub there. film didn't get any recognition

I have seen Blue Valentine and she did.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

I didn't notice that at all. Maybe it was a technical problem from when you watched it?

Nope. It was like that both times in the theatre, on the blu transfer and on the digital copy.

 

[Discotheque]

Awesome. Wanna check that out badly.

 

[C4Lukins]

I hope the girl from True Grit wins solely because she's part Filipino.

I hope she loses because she was nominated in the wrong category.

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

Once again....studio is irrelevant to film quality.

lol @ Cock sucking pixar.......so much propaganda in you post. That is NOT talking facts.

I told u why I dislike TS3. You ignored it. You are obviously NOT looking for a real discussion.

Once again....studio is irrelevant to film quality.

lol @ Cock sucking pixar.......so much propaganda in you post. That is NOT talking facts.

I told u why I dislike TS3. You ignored it. You are obviously NOT looking for a real discussion.

What propaganda, what cock sucking, what lol?
Studio IS relevant to the quality of a film, oh yes is it, because of the people that work in it, and not becuase of its name, as you seem to imply. That doesnt mean that a good studio can make a bad movie or that a bad one can make a good one.

I didnt ignore what you say, have you even read?

-You said you find Toy Story 3 too similar, you didnt like that. I told you, that in my opinion, even if it felt similar, the add of its parts still makes the movie excellent.

-You said that you find good that they made shitty characters to make more strong the main ones. I told you that is just nonsense (please, if you really think that, never make a movie), and gave you an example, Woody and Buzz are excellent main characters, and the rest of the cast is still wonderfull and are well written.

Now, tell me where, there, I have evaded or ignored your opinions?
Oh, but look, you just actually did that with you response. And I thought you were going to make and interesting argument, so yeah, im out of here.

And yeah, about the cock sucking, I was referring to this post in this same thread (and several people giving him the nod):

Yay: How to Train Your Dragon's score nominated.

Boo: Toy Story 3 up for Best Picture. Take the lips off Pixar's cock already.

No propaganda or invention for my part there.

Worst....logic....ever.

Maybe they should just give the award to the highest grossing film every year.....after all more people saw it....it must be better.

When it comes to reviews and audience reactions HTTYD and TS3 and so close that the difference is statistically irrelevant. Your attitude of...."you are entitled to your opinion...but its inferior to mind because I am right"....is infuriating. Telling us that we shouldn't need an award for the film we like....while advocating that the film you liked should get the award.

What a joke.

Yep, you are a joke poster, im out.

 

[06nbarnhill]

Not for you, but thats a matter of opinion, and I respect that.
To more people TS3 meant more than to you, and that reflects in the majority of the opinions, as well as mine, that doesnt make less your opinion though.

Now, its totally good to say you liked better, or you felt the movie had more soul, but I was talking of people bashing Toy Stroy 3 only becuase they want HTTYD to win.

If you feel HTTTD the movie of the year for you, why does it have to tell you someone or an award the contrary, good for you.

Worst....logic....ever.

Maybe they should just give the award to the highest grossing film every year.....after all more people saw it....it must be better.

When it comes to reviews and audience reactions HTTYD and TS3 and so close that the difference is statistically irrelevant. Your attitude of...."you are entitled to your opinion...but its inferior to mind because I am right"....is infuriating. Telling us that we shouldn't need an award for the film we like....while advocating that the film you liked should get the award.

What a joke.

 

[Blader]

I hope she loses because she was nominated in the wrong category.

She's not going to win anyway, but if she did, her chances for it would be much higher as Supporting.

 

[06nbarnhill]

What propaganda, what cock sucking, what lol?
Studio IS relevant to the quality of a film, oh yes is it, because of the people that work in it, and not becuase of its name, as you seem to imply. That doesnt mean that a good studio can make a bad movie or that a bad one can make a good one.

I didnt ignore what you say, have you even read?

-You said you find Toy Story 3 too similar, you didnt like that. I told you, that in my opinion, even if it felt similar, the add of its parts still makes the movie excellent.

-You said that you find good that they made shitty characters to make more strong the main ones. I told you that is just nonsense (please, if you really think that, never make a movie), and gave you an example, Woody and Buzz are excellent main characters, and the rest of the cast is still wonderfull and are well written.

Now, tell me where, there, I have evaded or ignored your opinions?
Oh, but look, you just actually did that with you response. And I thought you were going to make and interesting argument, so yeah, im out of here.

And yeah, about the cock sucking, I was referring to this post in this same thread (and several people giving him the nod):


No propaganda or invention for my part there.

One person saying it does not make it a trend. If you don't like it rebut THAT persons post not the entire HTTYD fanbase.

Studio is relevant to the MAKING of the film. Not its quality. Studio should NEVER be a determining factor when deciding the quality of the film. Once the film is released its quality is completely independent if its studio.

I never ONCE said characters were shitty. (Once again you lie to push your arguments) I said they were not strong (because they were not important) because they did not need to be strong and if they were it would weaken the film. The only BAD character in the film was maybe Snotlout. The rest were not bad...simply unimportant. Having 2 many characters (strong or not) can be very damaging to a film....see Shrek 3 (Backlog of characters from first 2 films sunk it and ruined its flow).

Your self-righteousness is disgusting. You act like everyone who disslikes TS3 is ignorant and foolhardy yet you throw crap at HTTYD with no actual arguments to back it up.

As I said.....the three TS films have the exact same theme....that is not worthy of a Best Picture Oscar.

 

[big ander]

My problem with TS3 was that it had almost the exact same theme of abandonment and belonging as the first two films. It was the same theme set to 3 plots.

I don't know if this is a fair criticism for a trilogy. Them sharing themes is intentional.
Also, "abandonment and belonging" is an oversimplification. The Toy Story films essentially anthropomorphize childhood. And because Andy grows from movie to movie, the toys represent different things in his life at each time. The third resonated with me because Andy was trying to grow up without losing relics of his innocence. The goal of the Toy Story movies is a simple one: make you realize that everyone still has a kid in them, no matter how much of adult they are.

The version of HTTYD I saw was full of "magical" and soulful moments. It had way more heart than any other movie I saw last year. The scenes between Hiccup and Toothless were astounding.

TS3 did nothing for me emotionally at all other than the ending, which I just found to be satisfying but not tearjerking or anything.

Did you have pets as a kid but no toys? Serious question. In my mind, Toothless is representative of individuality and excitement. And while I can also get those same interpretations from Toy Story, I know there are people who didn't play with toys much as kids.
Still, you should be able to relate emotionally to something that so clearly and masterfully describes childhood.

Nope. It was like that both times in the theatre, on the blu transfer and on the digital copy.

It was like this for me as well.

 

[C4Lukins]

She's not going to win anyway, but if she did, her chances for it would be much higher as Supporting.

I think it is insulting to her to put her in that category, and the academy should not have allowed it. Sometimes there is a thin line between actor and supporting actor but this is not one of those cases at all.

 

[brianjones]

are you guys seriously arguing over toy story 3 and how to train your dragon lol

 

[Discotheque]

are you guys seriously arguing over toy story 3 and how to train your dragon lol

stop cock sucking animated films with your propaganda (that's all I got out of that pointless but very well-worded and hilarious argument)

 

[Kitschkraft]

What is "Rabbit Hole" about and is it worth anyone's time?

It's the only film in the major categories I've heard nothing about.

 

[Man]

Very glad to see 127 hours nominated.

Social Network deserves to win but 127 hours and Black Swan are close on it's heals.

 

[06nbarnhill]

are you guys seriously arguing over toy story 3 and how to train your dragon lol

This thread was alarmingly drama free.....i fixed it for you.

 

[Blader]

What is "Rabbit Hole" about and is it worth anyone's time?

It's the only film in the major categories I've heard nothing about.

Spoiler

It's about a husband and wife who have to cope with the death of their child.

It's gotten good reviews but is pretty obviously Oscar bait.

 

[crazy monkey]

Hateful, in a thread of people saying to cock sucking pixar and hating toy story 3 becuase of simply hating it?
Get the swearing out of my post, that was more becuase of writting it after reading those comments (and I know I didnt need to do it and it was not right), and it has sense.
Yeah, im sorry, but dreamworks does usually bad movies and pixar good, its not about hating something and loving the other, it becuase its the truth.
The same as saying Cars is not good, that is also a truth, the same truth as saying HTTYD is a really good film.

Even if Toy Story 3 feels like home with the other two, is written, directed and animated in such a manner, that is nearly perfect.
Not the same thing I can say of HTTYD. Excellent actions sequences, good score and two good characters with good chemistry between them (I put two more characters, the father and the viking without a hand, because those two were the ones I didnt want to hit in the face) dont make an excellent movie. And sorry but the excuse you made of having shitty characters to strengthen the two main characters is bad, and I mean really bad, the only thing you do like this is lowering the quality of the movie. You can have two GREAT characters, accompanied with another excellent cast, just look at Woody and Buzz, both are excellent, but mixed with the rest of the toys, you create magic.
Magic im not seeing in HTTYD. And thats why in my opinion, even if, as you said, Toy Story 3 is similar to its brothers, its still full of magic that deserves winning over a very good movie like HTTYD.

And I will change my opinion about Dreamworks when I see facts, and I have to say that making HTTYD is a very good start.

Lolz every where. If the movie was named differently no body would have liked it. HTTYD had much better animation and 3D. Toy story had gimmiky 3D.
You had emotional attachment with the characters from before thus you were scared when they were going to burn and given away.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Nope. It was like that both times in the theatre, on the blu transfer and on the digital copy.

You'll have to take it to the sound arm of the Academy then that finalized the nomination list, I would figure they have better ears for this stuff than most of us. I don't think I was ever bothered by the sound levels, and I saw the film four times in the theaters.

 

[anaron]

So pleased with the Dragon nods. Favourite animated film this year.