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[Discotheque]

Mine's still Toy Story 3 after seeing the Dragon movie. But in the end, don't be surprised when The Illusionist takes it. The guy's previous film Triplets of Belleville won and the animation looks sooo good.

 

[Blader]

I was actually pretty (pleasantly) surprised that The Illusionist nabbed the third animated nom. Was totally expecting that to go to Tangled.

 

[I AM JOHN!]

Let's see:

• No visual effects or editing nomination for Scott Pilgrim Vs. the World (which, say what you will about everything else about the movie, it completely and utterly deserves, far more than shit like Iron Man 2 and Tim Burton's latest shitfest).
• No visual effects or score (how is this even possible?!) nomination for Tron: Legacy.
• No director nomination for Nolan for Inception (which would be something that it actually deserves over screenplay and best picture).

And this is why the Oscars are useless and will continue to be useless from now until the end of time.

 

[Zeliard]

Mark Ruffalo for The Kids Are All Right (2010)

Excellent, somewhat unexpected surprise (though he did get a SAG nod). Such an underrated actor.

Also love the nod for Renner in The Town, since that's not the type of performance and film the Academy usually recognizes.

 

[Conceited]

Can't wait to watch Social Network sweep everything.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

I was actually pretty (pleasantly) surprised that The Illusionist nabbed the third animated nom. Was totally expecting that to go to Tangled.

Still hasn't been released anywhere near me. And I've been searching on a weekly basis. Gonna have to wait for blu

 

[crazy monkey]

Mine's still Toy Story 3 after seeing the Dragon movie. But in the end, don't be surprised when The Illusionist takes it. The guy's previous film Triplets of Belleville won and the animation looks sooo good.

If that wins it will be funny because Toy story is already nominated as best movie of the year and that is not. How is that possible.

 

[JGS]

You'll have to take it to the sound arm of the Academy then that finalized the nomination list, I would figure they have better ears for this stuff than most of us. I don't think I was ever bothered by the sound levels, and I saw the film four times in the theaters.

That and editing were never issues for me. I understood what they said except at the beginning which has subtitles and a clear desire for the music to be heard. Otherwise, everyhting made sense, so kudos for the nod!

 

[Guzim]

Can't wait to watch Social Network sweep everything.

It won't.

 

[Discotheque]

More importantly though Xia you guys also did Social Network sound mixing. And honestly that was one of the tightest things about that film.

 

[I AM JOHN!]

If that wins it will be funny because Toy story is already nominated as best movie of the year and that is not. How is that possible.

Oscars are biased against foreign films unless it's in the context of their own separate (but equal!) categories. Always have been; always will be.

Toy Story is going to win, but I could honestly see The Illusionist winning best animated but being left out of the best picture running for that reason alone.

 

[Ratrat]

Only 3 films in the animated category. I was right on calling it a shitty year for animation.

Also Toy Story 3 > HTTYD(Probably the most beautiful CG cartoon out but has a shitty story.)

 

[Xun]

Lolz every where. If the movie was named differently no body would have liked it. HTTYD had much better animation and 3D. Toy story had gimmiky 3D.
You had emotional attachment with the characters from before thus you were scared when they were going to burn and given away.

As an animator I'm laughing incredibly at this.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Jamesfrom818]

I am rather irate about Tron getting snubbed for Original Score.

 

[Blader]

Only 3 films in the animated category. I was right on calling it a shitty year for animation.

They only nominate 3 films if there less than 16 submissions, otherwise they post 5 noms. This year, 15 films were submitted, so they only picked 3 noms.

 

[crazy monkey]

As an animator I'm laughing incredibly at this.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

you can if you want to. 3D in Toy story was lame and in HTTYD was much much better.

 

[06nbarnhill]

As an animator I'm laughing incredibly at this.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

lol I suppose u r santa as well?

Nothing is more annoying than self per-claimed expertise.

 

[I AM JOHN!]

They only nominate 3 films if there less than 16 submissions, otherwise they post 5 noms. This year, 15 films were submitted, so they only picked 3 noms.

That makes sense.

Spoiler

By which I mean that's fucking stupid.

lol I suppose u r santa as well?

Nothing is more annoying than self per-claimed expertise.

Obvious avatar quote is obvious.

 

[TheKaeptain]

As an animator I'm laughing incredibly at this.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Woody's facial animation blew me away.

 

[Discotheque]

Woody's facial animation blew me away.

oh no...here it comes....

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

oh no...here it comes....

 

[MMaRsu]

Nolan not nominated for best director? The fuck.....

The Academy = shit

I also think Inception won't win much.. sadly enough.

 

[crazy monkey]

As an animator I'm laughing incredibly at this.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

http://www.annieawards.org/consideration.html

 

[Pseudo_Sam]

What I want: Best pic = 127 Hours, Director = Fincher, Animated = HTTYD, Score = HTTYD

What will happen: Best pic = SN, Director = Fincher, Animated = TS3, Score = not HTTYD

It's a toss-up for me between Firth and Franco, with the edge to Franco. He won't win though.

 

[I AM JOHN!]

http://www.annieawards.org/consideration.html

What's that in the "gold sponsors" sidebar I spy?

I also think Inception won't win much.. sadly enough.

It also really doesn't deserve it, to be fair.

But I agree with you that Nolan absolutely should've gotten a Best Director.

 

[big ander]

Lolz every where. If the movie was named differently no body would have liked it. HTTYD had much better animation and 3D. Toy story had gimmiky 3D.
You had emotional attachment with the characters from before thus you were scared when they were going to burn and given away.

Um, are you saying sequels are not allowed to build upon developments in previous entries?

http://www.annieawards.org/consideration.html

How is posting another awards group proof?

 

[trineo_feo]

http://www.annieawards.org/consideration.html

Are those the same guys that gave all the awards to Kung Fu Panda and none to Wall-e?

 

[Xun]

http://www.annieawards.org/consideration.html

You do realise Dreamworks are gold sponsors right? They won every award against Wall-E with Kung Fu Panda if I recall correctly.

The Annies are incredibly biased towards their sponsors and it's noted in the industry.

 

[JGS]

you can if you want to. 3D in Toy story was lame and in HTTYD was much much better.

[laffy] @ the hyperbole, not that HTTYD was actually much, much worse.

PIXAR has never, ever made animation that was much, much worse than the other guys.

They are the pinnacle and everyone else is in second place except maybe Avatar if you want to count that which I don't.

 

[06nbarnhill]

You do realise Dreamworks are gold sponsors right? They won every award against Wall-E with Kung Fu Panda if I recall correctly.

The Annies are incredibly biased towards their sponsors and it's noted in the industry.

TBH that year Disney was a gold sponsor.

They dropped because they were lolmad that they didn't win.

 

[Discotheque]

Which they should have been. Wall E is like a million times better than Kung Fu Panda. I calculated that shit.

 

[I AM JOHN!]

TBH that year Disney was a gold sponsor.

They dropped because they were lolmad that they didn't win.

Jesus, if you want it that bad...

 

[Pseudo_Sam]

[laffy] @ the hyperbole, not that HTTYD was actually much, much worse.

PIXAR has never, ever made animation that was much, much worse than the other guys.

They are the pinnacle and everyone else is in second place except maybe Avatar if you want to count that which I don't.

I think Pixar is incredible at what they do, but I found HTTYD undeniably more visually appealing. I think it may have been the overall aesthetic as much as the actual animation. The fire effects were great too. I mean, hyperbole is hyperbole, but let's not pretend Pixar is incapable of being bested at anything ever.

 

[YagizY]

Sound was really messed up for the first half-hour or so. To the point where the soundtrack was much louder than the dialogue, and not in an intentional way I'd imagine.

Holy shit at the fact that I wasn't the only one that thought this. I thought it was just my theater.

 

[06nbarnhill]

Which they should have been. Wall E is like a million times better than Kung Fu Panda. I calculated that shit.

I actually agree. However I am not a big believer in conspiracy.

Also doesn't change that Disney are sore losers. There will be hell to pay if TS3 loses.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

No visual effects or editing nomination for Scott Pilgrim Vs. the World (which, say what you will about everything else about the movie, it completely and utterly deserves, far more than shit like Iron Man 2 and Tim Burton's latest shitfest).

If they put up a less than stellar reel for the bakeoff, don't blame anyone other than the SP crew. Same deal with Tron. See my earlier posts on the subject, everyone gets 15 min to showcase the best of their work from the film.

But if you think our vfx in IM2 is shit, I guess there's no point in any discussion here.

 

[Yousefb]

Daft Punk

 

[I AM JOHN!]

But if you think our vfx in IM2 is shit, I guess there's no point in any discussion here.

Iron Man 2 is the exact same thing they did in Iron Man 1, which is not all that different from the kind of visual effects we've seen in the Transformers movies and superhero movies ever since X-Men. Technically nice and aesthetically pleasing, sure, but boilerplate.

Scott Pilgrim is something new and something incredibly special (not that it's the first movie to do those kind of visual tricks, but it's certainly the first movie to blend them seamlessly with the film and actually make it transcend gimmick and become a vital part of enjoying the movie), and I will take innovation over technical brute force any day.

 

[Discotheque]

To be fair Scott Pilgrim wasn't nominated because it was a total box office failure. It really deserves to be in the top 10 films of the year. But I doubt the studio gave it much backing when it came to nominations. Hell, I doubt they sent a 'reel' in for VFX.

 

[I AM JOHN!]

To be fair Scott Pilgrim wasn't nominated because it was a total box office failure. It really deserves to be in the top 10 films of the year. But I doubt the studio gave it much backing when it came to nominations. Hell, I doubt they sent a 'reel' in for VFX.

Further proof that mass sterilization and societal reprogramming is the only way.

 

[Talon]

Further proof that mass sterilization and societal reprogramming is the only way.

I got a hat to sell ya.

 

[JGS]

I think Pixar is incredible at what they do, but I found HTTYD undeniably more visually appealing. I think it may have been the overall aesthetic as much as the actual animation. The fire effects were great too. I mean, hyperbole is hyperbole, but let's not pretend Pixar is incapable of being bested at anything ever.

Visually appealing is different than better animation to me. I love the look of both of them, but the suburban setting of TS3 was automatically more mundane than the fantasyland of Dragon.

I loved the animation of both of them and I'm a big defender of Dreamworks as the #2 animation house which says a lot.

But the animation details in TS3 were phenomonal, just not as fantastical.

 

[BobTheFork]

Nolan not nominated for best director? The fuck.....

The Academy = shit

I also think Inception won't win much.. sadly enough.

This might sound strange but I think Nolan directed Inception too well and it hurt the movie. Almost everyone I know talks about how 'cerebral' the movie was and when I ask them more about it, they usually comment about how they had to wrap their minds around what was happening. I think that's actually where the movie failed, because at no time was there any mystery, or confusion or real intensity for me and I think it's because Nolan is so good and making a story like this seem so simple (to me at least). I felt kind of the same way after seeing Memento. I wasn't confused in the slightest about the placement of events or the progression of the story. If I had been, I would have found it more 'gripping'.

That isn't a comment on whether he should have a nomination, but just a comment.

 

[I AM JOHN!]

Visually appealing is different than better animation to me. I love the look of both of them, but the suburban setting of TS3 was automatically more mundane than the fantasyland of Dragon.

I loved the animation of both of them and I'm a big defender of Dreamworks as the #2 animation house which says a lot.

But the animation details in TS3 were phenomonal, just not as fantastical.

The argument you're making is exactly why I hate the idea of these "whoever spent the most money wins" awards. Does it really matter which one has better animation? Which is the better movie?

This might sound strange but I think Nolan directed Inception too well and it hurt the movie. Almost everyone I know talks about how 'cerebral' the movie was and when I ask them more about it, they usually comment about how they had to wrap their minds around what was happening. I think that's actually where the movie failed, because at no time was there any mystery, or confusion or real intensity for me and I think it's because Nolan is so good and making a story like this seem so simple (to me at least). I felt kind of the same way after seeing Memento. I wasn't confused in the slightest about the placement of events or the progression of the story. If I had been, I would have found it more 'gripping'.

That isn't a comment on whether he should have a nomination, but just a comment.

This is exactly my problem with Inception. Like, practically verbatim. Wow.

I'd consider that more of a screenplay problem than a direction one, though. I think it's the screenplay's job to acknowledge that dreams are random and chaotic and not just explain everything away as if you're too simple and might get lost in all the ridiculousness of everything, not necessarily the direction.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Visually appealing is different than better animation to me. I love the look of both of them, but the suburban setting of TS3 was automatically more mundane than the fantasyland of Dragon.

I loved the animation of both of them and I'm a big defender of Dreamworks as the #2 animation house which says a lot.

But the animation details in TS3 were phenomonal, just not as fantastical.

This (along with pretty much every argument between the two movies in this thread) would be relevant if the Best Animated Feature had anything to do with having the best animation in a feature. Which it doesn't.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Iron Man 2 is the exact same thing they did in Iron Man 1

No, it wasn't. That's part of the reason for the bakeoff competition, it gives a chance for the show leadership involved to show off how they created shots, the challenges they came across, new techniques or tech they used, etc.

Scott Pilgrim is something new and something incredibly special (not that it's the first movie to do those kind of visual tricks, but it's certainly the first movie to blend them seamlessly with the film and actually make it transcend gimmick and become a vital part of enjoying the movie)

I enjoyed SP as much as anyone else, but there's plenty of people out there who don't think it did enough to "transcend gimmick," which is probably what did it in. Or maybe they just didn't present a compelling case at the bakeoff.

To be fair Scott Pilgrim wasn't nominated because it was a total box office failure. It really deserves to be in the top 10 films of the year. But I doubt the studio gave it much backing when it came to nominations. Hell, I doubt they sent a 'reel' in for VFX.

Why would DNeg not send in a reel for SP, when they have other films that were also in the bakeoff? Do you know what a slap in the face that would be for the artists involved?

It wasn't nominated because it didn't get through the bakeoff. Simple.

 

[Slurmer]

LOL at the first post nailing it. the 10 nominees for best picture is so retarded

 

[The Technomancer]

Scott Pilgrim didn't get a nomination for Best Visual Effects or Best Choreography?
Insanity. Say what you will about the whole film, but those two aspects were ace.

 

[CassSept]

You think? I mean I really liked The Social Network but I think overall those two are better. Just my personal opinion though.

Late response, but that's what I'm getting from the latest news. It really seems that the main fight for the Best Picture is between TSN and TKS. Black Swan might be third, but I don't think it has a shot at getting the award.

Also, just got back from The King's Speech. Sure, a fantastic movie, but it really lacked something for me. I also found both TSN and TKS kind of... well, kind of similar. Maybe it's my age, but TSN really resonated with me. Much more so than TKS did. And while I really liked TKS, I did prefer TSN over it. Still, if I had to choose right now I'm guessing The King's Speech will win Best Picture.
Even if it somehow doesn't, if Colin Firth doesn't win Best Leading Actor then the Oscars become even more of a joke. Too bad it seems Rush will lose to Bale (but then again, The Fighter doesn't open here until march so I don't really have comparison until then... but I loved Rush's performance in TKS).

 

[I AM JOHN!]

No, it wasn't. That's part of the reason for the bakeoff competition, it gives a chance for the show leadership involved to show off how they created shots, the challenges they came across, new techniques or tech they used, etc.

And again, if you turn it into technological advances and nothing more, whoever spent the most money is going to win every single time. The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences is ultimately, despite having the S-word in their name, a group of artists and I think that artistry should be rewarded over technical brute force every time. That's not to discount the work the Iron Man 2 artists did (not that I really think it matters since those guys are probably laughing all the way to the bank as it is with how much that movie made), but at the end of the day, from my layman ass perspective, Scott Pilgrim is something I've never seen before and Iron Man 2 is... yep, more Iron Man.

I enjoyed SP as much as anyone else, but there's plenty of people out there who don't think it did enough to "transcend gimmick," which is probably what did it in. Or maybe they just didn't present a compelling case at the bakeoff.

And that's why all these people are going to hell fine. We just have to agree to disagree. Not that it makes SP any less of my favorite movie of last year by a country mile.