Oscar Nominations 2011 (Jan 25, 8:30am EST/5:30am PST)

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BertramCooper said:
Could someone remind me why Toy Story 3 is up for Best Adapted Screenplay and not Best Original Screenplay? I think it was some sort of technicality, but I can't recall exactly what.
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Is it because it's a sequel? I'm not too sure, that's just my guess.
 
brandonh83 said:
You guys are making my morning. Thought I was alone!

Well, maybe we're alone.
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I am with you as well. If the Academy wanted to put an animated film in best picture I think How to Train your Dragon should have been there instead of TS3. I'm not even a Pixar hater, I just don#t think TS3 is up to par for Pixar quality. For me it's a mediocre effort like Cars, which I still can't believe is getting a sequel.
 
Xater said:
I am with you as well. If the Academy wanted to put an animated film in best picture I think How to Train your Dragon should have been there instead of TS3. I'm not even a Pixar hater, I just don#t think TS3 is up to par for Pixar quality. For me it's a mediocre effort like Cars, which I still can't believe is getting a sequel.
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As much as I love Pixar, I agree that Cars doesn't need a sequel. I really didn't care for the first one. It was missing that "human" element that all of Pixar's other movies have.
 
brandonh83 said:
If it were up to me, Dragon would take that win AND the best animated picture win, but again-- that's just me.
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I wholeheartedly agree with you. I hate the fact it has zero chance of winning, despite also loving TS3. It's such a boring category when the winner is so blatantly telegraphed.
 
Solstice said:
I'm wondering this, too. I have a terribly tough time picking between Daft Punk or Hans Zimmer for this years score (in my personal choice, that is).
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Our tastes appear to be in sync. The Academy Awards rarely nominates scores that are awesome enough to warrant a listen on their own.
 
Secret_Riddle said:
Our tastes appear to be in sync. The Academy Awards rarely nominates scores that are awesome enough to warrant a listen on their own.
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Indeed. I have the Inception score on my phone for listening at anytime. Once my next paycheck hits, I'm gonna get the TRON: Legacy OST, too.
 
was hoping that andrew garfield would be nominated in best supporting. glad to see the illusionist get an animated nod. laughing at inception getting a screenplay nomination.
 
Xater said:
I am with you as well. If the Academy wanted to put an animated film in best picture I think How to Train your Dragon should have been there instead of TS3. I'm not even a Pixar hater, I just don#t think TS3 is up to par for Pixar quality. For me it's a mediocre effort like Cars, which I still can't believe is getting a sequel.
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Well I wouldn't go that far I thought TS3 was pretty good actually, but I thought everything before the ending was just kind of so-so and not nearly as interesting/funny/engaging as the other two. But then the ending comes along and was very satisfactory and gave really good closure to the trilogy.

To me though, Dragon was a full-steam ahead effort from start to finish with a much better storyline, score, and far more interesting and even emotional things going on. The chemistry between Hiccup and Toothless blows my mind.

I can't say that anything in TS3 hit me on even remotely the same level, emotionally, as quite a bit of material in HTTYD. Again, TS3 had a bittersweet and even moving ending, but that's the only part of the film that I found to be even somewhat memorable.
 
I can definitely understand how people can think that HTTYD is better than Toy Story 3 (especially the score. I felt Newman's score for TS3 was rather forgettable), but it seems like some people are saying that TS3 was terrible, and I just can't understand that. It was far from a bad movie. Does it deserve best animated picture? Maybe not, but I do think it deserves to be nominated.

shagg_187 said:
Fuck yes, TSN!!! :D It HAS to win Original score! *squeals like a little pig*
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Honestly, I think Zimmer's was better, but to each his own.
 
Kusagari said:
As long as Pixar exists nobody else is winning the category...except for when Cars 2 comes out.
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I believe we have a decent chance in 2011 with Rango, but that's just me. :P
 
HTTYD is overrated as hell, it has nothing but a few flashy flight sequences and rote humour. Of course TS3 should be nominated over it.
 
I know Toy Story deserves anything it wins but How To Train Your Dragon deserves some kind of award as well, it's equally incredible, IMO, it's a shame it's being overlooked because any Pixar movie starts with a higher esteem for the sake of being Pixar. (not that they've not earned it)

And fuck no Daft Punk.
 
I think we're all forgetting about one of the most awesome movies of 2010 that the academy wouldn't even glance at:

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Loveable characters, great acting, decent story, an all around fun movie. Hell, the academy should just have a "Best popcorn flick" category so that the Oscars aren't just nothing but dramas with a comedy or two put in for taste. Hell, Sharlto Copley did a fucking amazing job.

I have I'll forever be branded as a summer blockbuster fan here now, but so what. It was a hell of a movie. One of my favorites of last year.
 
Solstice said:
I can definitely understand how people can think that HTTYD is better than Toy Story 3 (especially the score. I felt Newman's score for TS3 was rather forgettable), but it seems like some people are saying that TS3 was terrible, and I just can't understand that. It was far from a bad movie. Does it deserve best animated picture? Maybe not, but I do think it deserves to be nominated.
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I only meant mediocre by Pixar standard, which is just really really high. It still is a good film.


Ceres said:
Academy is still making up for the horrible Shrek win over Monster's Inc.
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Still unbelievable that this happened.
 
Guys, Inception actually got a original screenplay nod for "Best Original Idea". It's somewhere in the fine print, I'm sure. They just didn't want to make a new category.

*cue people saying it's not an original idea*

Whatever, that's my joke and I'm sticking to it.
 
HTTYD and TS3 are close in quality in my mind, but I far far prefer TS3. And that's just because Toy Story has been one of the defining trilogies of my lifetime. I've been the same age as Andy in every movie. So while I think it should be a close race, I want Toy Story 3 to win.
BertramCooper said:
Could someone remind me why Toy Story 3 is up for Best Adapted Screenplay and not Best Original Screenplay? I think it was some sort of technicality, but I can't recall exactly what.
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As someone said, because it's a sequel. Strange technicality.
 
Listen, I know Scott Pilgrim's got no chance of ever winning a major category, even if it was the biggest money making film of the year and it was promoted by the Weinsteins or whatever, but for love of god, utter shit like Transformers and Spider-man 3 have been nominated in the special effects category before and this year? Hereafter (which had CG that was noticeably atrocious even in the commercials) got a nom over SP? Jeez. JEEZ.

Anyways, like how the biggest story on people's lips this morning is a Nolan snub. I'm sure everyone else has conveyed my sentiment, so yea. Award shows have come to regularly blow these days and this one probably won't be any different.

Also, what in the hell at anyone thinking HTTYD was better on just about any level than Toy Story 3. HTTYD is a notably exceptional movie with a fairly standard concept, exceeding beyond the basic premise as best as possible. But man, TS3 is some life affirming SHIT!
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Listen, I know Scott Pilgrim's got no chance of ever winning a major category, even if it was the biggest money making film of the year and it was promoted by the Weinsteins or whatever, but for love of god, utter shit like Transformers and Spider-man 3 have been nominated in the special effects category before and this year? Hereafter (which had CG that was noticeably atrocious even in the commercials) got a nom over SP? Jeez. JEEZ.
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Again, see my earlier comment about the bakeoff. DNeg may have just put a middling SP presentation.

And our CG work on TF was a lot better than you give it credit for. ;P
 
brandonh83 said:
If it were up to me, Dragon would take that win AND the best animated picture win, but again-- that's just me.
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I completely agree.....but I am obviously biased XD

Toy Story was just rehash imo.
 
Xater said:
I am with you as well. If the Academy wanted to put an animated film in best picture I think How to Train your Dragon should have been there instead of TS3. I'm not even a Pixar hater, I just don#t think TS3 is up to par for Pixar quality. For me it's a mediocre effort like Cars, which I still can't believe is getting a sequel.
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Agreed. How to Train Your Dragon was the better film, and by a fair margin. It will be highway robbery if TS3 walks away with animated picture.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Agreed. How to Train Your Dragon was the better film, and by a fair margin. It will be highway robbery if TS3 walks away with animated picture.
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It's not even guesswork at this point though. TS3 has it.
 
Kusagari said:
As long as Pixar exists nobody else is winning the category...except for when Cars 2 comes out.
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lol.

I really wish How to Train Your Dragon was being released next year. With only a Shrek spinoff and Kung Fu Panda(Will be funny but I doubt it will be an Oscar contender) next year I could easily see the complete trash that is cars winning.

brandonh83 said:
It's not even guesswork at this point though. TS3 has it.
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I am slightly more optimistic. The Academy is filled with old duffs from traditional film.....if TS3 starts gaining momentum for best picture I could see a backlash which loses it Best Animated.

(not likely but I can dream)
 
XiaNaphryz said:
Again, see my earlier comment about the bakeoff. DNeg may have just put a middling SP presentation.

And our CG work on TF was a lot better than you give it credit for. ;P
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So the VFX community picks the nominees, but they really have no real say on who wins?

That explains some of the winners this decade
 
DMczaf said:
So the VFX community picks the nominees, but they really have no real say on who wins?

That explains some of the winners this decade
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Yep, each particular Academy branch is the main group who votes for specific categories until the final nominee list, where the vote is then open to the entire Academy. VFX in particular has had the "bakeoff competition" for a long while now to determine the final list.
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Also, what in the hell at anyone thinking HTTYD was better on just about any level than Toy Story 3. HTTYD is a notably exceptional movie with a fairly standard concept, exceeding beyond the basic premise as best as possible. But man, TS3 is some life affirming SHIT!
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Seriously.

Toy Story 3 made me FEEL THINGS.
 
brandonh83 said:
It's not even guesswork at this point though. TS3 has it.
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I'm expecting it to, it would be foolish not to. But I'm going to hope it doesn't.

The presence in the Best Picture list is a big tell, though.
 
brandonh83 said:
The thing is, it's not going to win best picture, therefore it will win best animated.
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As must as I dislike Toy Story (didn't like first two either)

I really really support it for Best Picture.....Would be good for the industry.
 
big ander said:
As someone said, because it's a sequel. Strange technicality.
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I see the logic behind it, but I don't think it entirely makes sense.

Toy Story 3 wasn't adapted from Toy Story or Toy Story 2. It is an original piece of screenwriting.

Meh, whatever.
 
BertramCooper said:
I see the logic behind it, but I don't think it entirely makes sense.

Toy Story 3 wasn't adapted from Toy Story or Toy Story 2. It is an original piece of screenwriting.

Meh, whatever.
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IMO it would be like Star Wars being nominated for Best Animated feature because of teh quantity of CGI generated environments/effects.

Its a joke.
 
The Town gets no love from the Academy, while pandering tripe like The Kids Are All Right and Winter's Bone are eaten up. Such a shame.

At least I can take solace that the best movie of the year, The Social Network, will probably win Best Picture.
 
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