It's extremely tough being white... especially when black people block traffic. But you already knew that though, didn't you?
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Oscar nominee Charlotte Rampling says diversity row is 'racist to white people'
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It's extremely tough being white... especially when black people block traffic. But you already knew that though, didn't you?
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Hell, Óscar Hernández Estrada had to become Oscar Isaac in order to get any roles at all. Even though he was able to play a Polish guy in Show Me A Hero.
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they really do get cranky when they skip Tea Time
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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It's an idea, but it'd be treated like the Best Animated Movie award, where genuine possible Best Picture winners go to be ignored. It's the separate but equal award.
Yoda
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If it's this arbitrary then why value the award in the first place? If the other movies are already molding their narratives to pull on the strings of those who control the voting, than how does one expect a movie that does its own thing (for example SOoC) to be on a level playing field given your admission? I'm not going to disagree that is morally dubious, but they are a private organization and if this is how the nominating process "works" than perhaps they (the oscars) don't deserve the pedestal we place them on?
We don't put the oscars on a pedestal Hollywood does.
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Yeah. It might work early on, but in the long run wouldn't.
Yoda
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If it was just the Hollywood elite doing it the conversations about the subject wouldn't be so prevalent, people obviously care about the ceremony.
I think you lost me right here.
Yoda
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https://twitter.com/hashtag/oscarssowhite?src=rela
It's trending off and on because no one cares? That makes zero sense.
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You're looking at a bunch of stats regarding how Hollywood values the awards because winning them has real world value for the winners, but then questioning why the rest of the world cares about this? You're not making any sense. Of course regular people care about it after knowing they provide wealth and opportunity for the winners. It doesn't mean people give a shit that it exists, though.
I don't think I said people don't care. I was responding to your posts which I thought asks why don't people just simply ignore the awards if they don't really matter? The short answer to that is Hollywood feeds off the Oscar. The slightly longer version of that is Hollywood is an industry and he oscars are apart of that industry. If poc actors, actresses, and movies based around the experiences of poc aren't being recognized by the oscars that sends a message to Hollywood saying these movies aren't worthwhile to make. Thus poc are left with less opportunity in the industry.
Well then maybe you should read the thread.
Gotdatmoney
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The point is to be recognized as equal to everyone else. Not to be special snowflakes. We don't need best minority, we need best actor to not default to best white actor.
Hylianhero777
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I feel like this would be just as racist. All of the non-white nominees have to sit at the kiddie table and get their own segregated awards? Should there be a "best minority director, screenplay, etc." as well? I think this should be pretty straightforward: on one end diversify the academy, on the other celebrate and support good movies that employ diverse casts to encourage studios to hire like that more often.
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Because you make your own voice pretty disposable upon announcing you've just disposed of everyone else's in the discussion you're attempting to join.
It would be a middle step until the voting body is more diverse (through older voters dying off). It would be like black history month, as I heard it described in another thread here, a cast providing some support until it is no longer necessary to ensure recognition.
Either read the thread and understand why I wrote that or fuck off.
Yes it is. I'd put it over spotlight easy, but that's me.
Yoda
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Which stems from??? The awards being highly regarded, they didn't become highly regarded purely due to Hollywood Insiders, if no one watched them and/or people boycotted them en masse they would loose said significance, thus threatening the economic factor they play. It would force them to legitimately change their ways to maintain relevance, instead of the band-aids that social justice campaigns normally extract.
The post I was quoting boiled down to saying the award process was skewed, for example only certain flavors of movies being favored, thus those not being favored would know during pre-production that their chances of getting a nod from the academy was minimal. To me this is an absurd practice, which ought to be highlighted on the basis that it lowers to meaning of an the award itself, and as I mentioned above, if the awards' value is threatened, then said practice would have a reason to be changed.
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LOL
MHWilliams
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Fuck that was great
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Gee, thanks ¬¬ ...
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BHM wasn't provided as an alternative to improved curriculum though, or as a stopgap. It was intended to compensate. Here, this middle step would exist to ease voters into recognizing minority actors, but it would also be easily abused and argued "they get five guaranteed nominations per year!"
tattooed_dwarf
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What I hate is how little we get Asian actors in good roles where they aren't acting as "Asian character". I feel they get more type casted than any other minority.
A was extatic to see another silent ninja character in Suicide Squad. Truly refreshing.
tattooed_dwarf
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Exactly. And I want to see Asian actors in those "Oscar bait" drama roles too.
As soon as I discovered this as fact from the thread, I cared even less. 8|
so basically the assumption is that old, white people must be racist because they aren't voting for black people this year? It is impossible that they are voting based on performance alone.
While that might not be reverse racism, it sure sounds like prejudice to me.
excelsiorlef
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Look at the comment below. A mass boycott is not going to happen. Convincing enough people who aren't directly affected is near impossible.
A lack of diversity in selection team will result in a lack of diversity in the selections....
Btw your edit literally made your comment worse.
A lack of diversity in selection team will result in a lack of diversity in the selections....
Btw your edit literally made your comment worse.
? I didn't edit anything
excelsiorlef
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You added a bunch. When I first quited you only the first sentence was there.
Regardless your opening sentence is bad your ekavoration is worse
theignoramus
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The Academy has never voted based on performances alone, get real.
andthebeatgoeson
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We should do that in sports. Best scrappy player. Best gritty player. Best hard working player.
must be forum magic because I posted once. If I'd edited wouldn't it say so in the corner?
excelsiorlef
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Not if you do it in the first minute
Not if you do it quickly. I do it all the time, you have a few minutes or until the next post to get away with it.
Just did it right here.
oh interesting. Maybe I did it subconsiously, I sometimes do if I spot a spelling mistake etc.
In that case I apologise to excelsiorlef
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It's a fair assumption that the Academy has always been white men, so do you feel that the Academy has ever been an institution that allows racist ideals to determine the people they choose?
Ah, the elusive 'ghost edit' viewable by only the moderation staff and coincidently...The Prince of Darkness. Don't ask me about that last one, I don't know why that is.
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