AHA-Lambda
Member
A lot of people would agree on Inherent Vice and Boyhood to be fair but Jesus Christ at those comments on Selma and American Sniper.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Oscar Voter reveals horrible opinions: "No Art to Selma" 'Boyhood' "Uneven" "Crap"
- Thread starter Anton Sugar
- Start date
- Status
That you can't tell the difference is why you "don't get it."
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
One of the most beautiful films I've ever seen. A brilliant exploration of a childhood. Opinions, eh?
Fox Mulder
Member
I agree about boyhood.
I dont get the love at all. I've seen plenty of kids grow up on sitcoms.
I dont get the love at all. I've seen plenty of kids grow up on sitcoms.
Anton Sugar
Member
Did I say anything in the OP about her representing the entirety of the Academy? I even responded to your "I get the feeling..." post by saying "Not at all".
We're going to disagree on Selma being snubbed, so you might as well stop there. Regardless, like I said, we'll be hearing from one voter per day, so we'll see more as the week goes on.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
This has become one of the best things to happen to Oscar Voting. I love that Hollywood Reporter is continuing this series.
Serpentine
Banned
American Sniper as "true" art and The Imitation Game as a movie that people will be talking about in a year
lol, k
lol, k
MikeHattsu
Member
There's over 6000 voters:
http://www.thewrap.com/academy-adds-172-voters-tops-6000-mark/
Of course, there's also these stats though:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...ar-academy-project-20120219-story.html#page=1
She's voting for Imitation Game specifically because it's Oscar Bait instead of voting for Birdman, which seems to be her favorite movie of the nominees. It's kinda silly.
When the voting habits of said group over the last several decades largely match up with a lot of this one voter's tastes?
She doesn't single-handedly represent the Academy but it's not like a lot of her opinions are an outlier among Academy voters either.
QuantumBro
Banned
Is this the first of these voter opinions or are there more?
I'd rather have someone abstain in voting for a category they can't fully appreciate, then just vote for a random option.
I'd rather have someone abstain in voting for a category they can't fully appreciate, then just vote for a random option.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Also, this is the exact kinda shit that has me thinking Grand Budapest might end up sneaking Best Picture out from under Boyhood and Birdman.
There'll be more continuing through til Sunday, I'm sure.
There'll be more continuing through til Sunday, I'm sure.
Not entirely sure but I'd bet it got sound and visual effects nominations.
The Selma talk here is the only thing that really bothers me. It was a good movie, and if there's no art influence or whatever it shouldn't bring it down that much. I enjoy the Oscars but their choices are often confusing.
Traumnovelle
Member
That voter really thinks people will be talking about The Imitation Game years from now?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
People aren't even talking about it now.
I liked Selma and don't necessarily disagree with "there's no art to it" remark, but it's an especially weird thing to say when she simultaneously praises The Imitation Game and American Sniper -- two films that are markedly lacking in any kind of art.
Best Original Score nominee
Best Production Design nominee
Best Sound Editing nominee
Best Sound Mixing nominee
Best Visual Effects nominee
BertramCooper
Banned
The Imitation Game and The Theory of Everything are both very forgettable films. Neither deserved a BP nod.
They're fine, but given that they're based on two truly extraordinary individuals, I found both underwhelming.
I give a slight nod to The Imitation Game, since it at least showed some interest in Turing's work. The Theory of Everything couldn't have possibly cared less about Hawking's work.
Sectorseven
Member
It's a gimmick and the acting suffered as a result.
D
Deleted member 1235
Unconfirmed Member
I had the same experience with the master. didn't hate this guys opinion, I think I'll give that one a skip.
Why stop there? Every winner of every award in every major awards show on the planet doesn't deserve it. Everyone and everything is overrated. Except all that stuff that didn't win, that stuff is classic.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
I think there's an interesting undercurrent running through this thread with people being offended at the Selma comments while themself admitting they haven't seen the movie.
chicagocubsfan
Member
Surprised they didn't take a pot shot at the animation category like that one critic last year.
Mix Master
Member
should've had picture, lead actor & actress, with best director
Deified Data
Banned
Can someone tell me why this is relevant?
Not trying to threadshit, I honestly want to know.
Not trying to threadshit, I honestly want to know.
I enjoyed all three movies mentioned but I agree with the art thing. I'm sure an argument can be made for some of those films having a strong art element but I didn't really enjoy them for that reason.
Anton Sugar
Member
This may be true, but you don't have to see Selma to find her "wearing I Can't Breathe Shirts offended me" comment distasteful.
People who think it's a gimmick are missing the point. It's what the story is about. It's as much a gimmick as any storytelling decision is to any movie.
The kid was fine. It's not meant to be an acting showcase anyway (unless Linklater was able to luck out and accidentally cast the next teenage Marlon Brando). I think Hawke was actually the standout, Arquette was really good too but I find some of the hype around her performance a little overblown.
But I also acknowledge it's a very your-mileage-may-vary movie and whether or not it lands with you hinges a lot on your own childhood and experiences growing up. It resonated hard for me but it can easily not for someone else just by virtue of living different lives.
Because, for some reason, I feel like bringing up past Best Picture winners is actually kind of relevant to discussing Academy voter habits and tastes. But I don't know, that's just me.
People seem to be talking about it for all the wrong reasons.
Doctor Decimate
Member
How do you come to the conclusion that you should vote for the movie people will be talking about years from now....and then conclude that that movie is The Imitatiom Game? The mind fucking boggles.
John Kowalski
Banned
Art criticism is both very important (culturally) and very intellectually satisfying (as spectators/artists/individuals). I don't follow the Oscars but i have to imagine that those who do have an interest in knowing what hides behind the largely unreadable intentions of each person who votes for who wins and who doesn't. As much as the Oscars can behave predictably, i feel like people are often searching for that fleeting true depth of criticism that would betray how superficial they feel the Oscars to be.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
He sounds like a producer. An executive producer most likely.
Fascinating insight into the thought process. But this part.
Is lolosome. Best Picture nom for GoTG?!
Agree but it's such an oscar bait film and the Academy just can't resist them.
Is lolosome. Best Picture nom for GoTG?!
Agree but it's such an oscar bait film and the Academy just can't resist them.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
Boyhood is massively overrated.
She, but yeah, that was my thought too.
Mr. Poolman
Member
This right here should make some of GAF to have an aneurism.
And I agree to it, GotG was the most fun movie I watched last year, there is no shame in recognizing fun.
Haloid1177
Banned
Only thing wrong with the Boyhood comment was the Patricia Arquette bashing. Movie is fun to watch, but has a shit cliche story.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
This is completely meaningless. It is rated highly because a lot of people think it is a high quality film. Which it is. There is nothing really like it.
Admiral Woofington
Member
This. I'll be glad with Birdman or Budapest Hotel. Two films that deserve it
every sitcom that lasted for many years.
Sectorseven
Member
I think Imitation Game is a little more relevant than people give it credit for. The ideas of encryption and code breaking are becoming increasingly significant in society and the story is sort of a precursor to today's internet hacking.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I don't think people are going to have an aneurysm at the idea Guardians should be recognized for being a very fun movie, but I'm not sure "Best Picture" is an appropriate way to recognize that.
it's not even the best Marvel movie released this year, much less in the running for the Best Picture.
Why not, seriously Best Picture doesn't have to be about analyzing the human condition, it wouldn't hurt the academy to recognize fun for once.
Hari Seldon
Member
As long as Keaton wins the Oscar I will be happy.
- Status