I'm kind of happy about it. There's a large group of immigrants that felt ignored by politics. Even if I disagree with their policies, they deserve to have their voices heard.
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OT | Dutch General Election 2017 | Exit Poll: Major underperformance for Wilders
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I'm kind of happy about it. There's a large group of immigrants that felt ignored by politics. Even if I disagree with their policies, they deserve to have their voices heard.
ClosingADoor
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VVD won because it was easily reachable. Didn't have to fold it out at all when voting for them.
How so? Groenlinks becoming pretty large. D66 has a good result and I wouldn't call very conservative. SP is stable. VVD also giving up some seats, so they have to give in to some demands.
Souldriver
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It would make me so happy if when all is said and done, a party like D66 pulls ahead and PVV is not even the "shared second party".
(even though it won't really matter all that much)
(even though it won't really matter all that much)
Always-honest
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Well, not bad...
I would like to see GroenLinks in the formation. But we'll see.
VVD, CDA, D66 & GroenLinks is an option.
I would like to see GroenLinks in the formation. But we'll see.
VVD, CDA, D66 & GroenLinks is an option.
I agree. Just hoped there would be better parties for that.
Caayn
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First two districts are done counting, 386 to go.
Edit: Both islands seem to have a population of ~1000 people. So you won't need many people from other districts, such as people on a holiday, to go above the 100%.
Schiermonikoog has 130%.
Edit: Both islands seem to have a population of ~1000 people. So you won't need many people from other districts, such as people on a holiday, to go above the 100%.
D66 is economically rightwing, socially progressive. The economic right will have a field day.
I am seeing 4 years of budget cuts and privatizations. More homeless people, more working poor, expensive rent, shit healthcare coverage etc.
I'd rather want PVV to have 30 seats, who cares. VVD being so big is a disaster for me personally
Holiday votes.
Visitors allowed to vote in another district.
Almost as difficult as forming a government.
Well we're on an uptick in the economy, so I think in absolute terms we won't really see that many more. And countercyclical cuts during an upswing is actually a good idea.
Souldriver
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Also, that turnout number is impressive for modern elections. Reason to be proud.
ClosingADoor
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Groenlinks or Chrisenunie can make some demands I think. VVD lost votes, so they have to give in a bit.
Yes. All the talk recently about how we are going to spent a ton of money again was a bit strange to hear the last weeks. How about we don't start spending a ton just at the moment the economy goes up again.
Arjen
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Ah offcourse. Should have known that
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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82% of the country voted. I am happy we are living in such a healthy democracy!
It helped that the weather was beautiful haha
ClosingADoor
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I sure am glad the analyst explaining the results at the table are again all old, white men...
They need to do something. Asscher was not the right choice. He's a classic politician. Even Samsom was better, at least he had a bit of a fighting mentality. Aboutaleb would be a good pick if he wants to do it next time.
Royal_Phalanx
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Would rather have a progressive minded economically centre-right party governing than a nationalist, anti-EU, non-progressive and economically leftist party governing any day.
All thanks to the USA and Trump. Thanks for showing us how not to do things, America.
Jokes aside, this is seriously the reason for this I think. Staying home only leads to heartbreak, so it makes sense that more people turned up to prevent populism from taking over.
Samsom ruined the party. He was too arrogant for a labour party leader. Glad everyone took away their lunch.
MLP is going to be negatively affected by trump next.
Economically leftist is factually wrong. Do your research.
Furthermore, PVV would be left alone anyway. I would have been happy with them being the biggest. Never thought I'd say that.
That's something a German outlet speculated on before the elections and I think it is plausibel.
ClosingADoor
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You'd rather have the PVV being the biggest? That is really strange. You surely must see the amount of trouble that would give.
Even then, a party like the SP is also anti-EU, so that isn't good. Groenlinks now has to proof itself if they can join the government and maybe grow further as the alternative for the PvdA in the future elections.
I hope so. I'm not even French, but I will be pretty fucking terrified if Le Pen clutches it out.
Hoping level heads prevail in France just as they did in the Dutch elections.
Arjen
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Watch RTL then.
gutter_trash
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it makes logical sense, witnessing the 50 first days of the Chaos State serves as a lesson for anyone wanting to emulate it
Magic Mushroom
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They have to consider GL as the big winner.
I think so too. CU and SGP could fill the coalition of D66, VVD and CDA. I doubt they really want GL in their coalition.
What do you mean? PVV was always going to be bigger with the current political climate. I am positively surprised that PVV has only 19 sets, expected 25+. Hardly a Trump effect (at least not in a constructie way for PVV).
dragonfart28
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Everyone is so jubilant right now.
Are we sure things won't significantly change by the end of the night?
Are we sure things won't significantly change by the end of the night?
TatteredHat
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PVV always underperforms on election day, the international media were blowing things way out of proportion...
D66 would not like to sit in a coalition with SGP.
I can see VVD/CDA/D66/CU being reality but they will need one seat more than the exit polls have stated.
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