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OT | Dutch General Election 2017 | Exit Poll: Major underperformance for Wilders
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From the_d:
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FEELS SO GOOD
Fantastapotamus
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Just visiting and reading this threadname
"THE NETHERLANDS IS SEEING A TURNOUT LIKE THEY'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE. >85%, EVEN 100% TURNOUT IN SOME AREAS. POSSIBLE GEERT WILDERS LANDSLIDE?HIGH ENERGY"
absolutely made my day even better.
I suggest you go look at /pol right now for more salty posts.
People calling 85% turnout very suspect...😂
whyamihere
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LIVING FOR THIS
TatteredHat
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This is what happens when ignorant people comment on things they don't know anything about, like people complaining about >100% turnout in certain districts.
Neoriceisgood
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Wilders got REKT, I hope D66 pulls through with one more seat to take that definite 2nd place.
Or CDA I guess.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I mean Trump still talks about the 3-5 million "illegal" votes. Of course idiots gobble that up and use it whenever something doesn't go their way.
HIGH ENERGY!!!
Large Professor
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Pretty happy about the election results.
The formation is going to be interesting..
I'm putting my money on VVD + CDA + D66 + SGP + CU.
I think GL is too leftist for the VVD and CDA, if they want to push through some tougher immigration policies to keep the PVV at bay.
The formation is going to be interesting..
I'm putting my money on VVD + CDA + D66 + SGP + CU.
I think GL is too leftist for the VVD and CDA, if they want to push through some tougher immigration policies to keep the PVV at bay.
Buba Big Guns
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Nice work NL
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Good job, Netherlands! Next up, France. Hopefully by the time the next election comes up here in Austria, the FPÖ will get fucked as well.
As a dual citizen (admittedly not Dutch), I've never experienced these conflicting loyalties of which you speak. Dual citizenship has literally been all upside for me.
Prophet Steve
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Sort of, likely a few seats more (15->19?) but way below the largest party (31) and on par with two other parties. A lot less than what was expected, so that's good.
GasProblem
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SGP is disgusting, hope not.
whyamihere
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One of the few good things about Trump is that his brand is probably not good for the Western and Central European far-right.
VIVA EUROPA
Freeza Under The Shower
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because you don't want to choose between getting a VISA for every EU country or for your (supposedly former) home country when you have relatives in both. There is also a real emotional sting to not being allowed to be both.
That whole discussion is basically just there for populist reasons, not anything realistic. Also, nobody asked actual migrants how they feel about it.
Speaking of which, I kind of dread the CDA returning to government for that reason, so I'm hoping the VVD will play the conservative part, with D66 bridging the middle (50 seat combined with VVD), and GL bringing up the left side (66 total, so still 9 seats needed for equal government-opposition or 10+ for dominant with 75+). Considering the overlap with DENK in terms of programs, they might have a shot at becoming part of a government coalition if CDA doesn't play ball (which is kind of what I expect, since "christian values" and all that crap). I would prepare for a Belgium-equivalent formation process, with Wilders and other populists now having an active stage to shout their bullshit from (FVD...).
Of course, if they immediately go with "Paars+?" "Paars+." then that's that. But it won't be that easy. The final debate was boring for me, so I didn't really bother with it, but VVD-D66-GL seems pretty much safe since they don't really disagree all that much anyway. GL could blow up though. I seem to recall them doing that during the LPF re-re-re-election special bonanza. I really, really, really, want to avoid another one of those.
I wouldn't jump for joy too soon. PVV and FVD still gained seats, so there is still an apparent rise in racism. And the only reason PVV went lower is because of a much, much higher turnout than in previous elections and DJ Tantrum (= Potus 45).
Wilders was really dumb for trying to tie him and his party to trump and brexit.
Based on the exit polls he grew a few seats from the last election, but is still far smaller then the polls a few weeks back indicated. Smaller then the 2010 elections as well.
Also, the PVV isn't the largest party in the polls, but tied with CDA and D66 for second. D66 is easily among the most pro EU, socially progressive and climate oriented parties in the country. The largest win is for GroenLinks (green left) which ends up just after the previous 3.
So while Wilders did gain seats, the biggest gains were by his biggest opponents.
The Dutch Slayer
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YES! just wanted to point out the same thing awesome well done everyone Sure VVD might not be best for all dutch people but at least it's not Wilders who would make things so so so much worse.
This is actually the second time a far right party has done worse then expected in an election since trump's win.The feeling is great. I knew wilders was going to lose a few weeks ago.
RocknRola
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Get fucked, Geertje!
Also, is there a theoretical chance that the VVD can get cockblocked? Way too right for my taste, and I think technically a left-wing coalition would be possible, but that would require a lot of parties (5 or 6).
Also, is there a theoretical chance that the VVD can get cockblocked? Way too right for my taste, and I think technically a left-wing coalition would be possible, but that would require a lot of parties (5 or 6).
There is a non-zero chance... And that's about it.
Entering the stage with Sean Paul - Trumpets is my favourite moment of today.
whyamihere
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Dutch: We will join you in the modern world in 2020, just give us some time.
You'd need 76 seats for a majority. Looking at the exit polls, CDA (19) + D66 (19) + GL (16) + SP (14) + PVDA (9) would give you 77. So that is one party more than any with VVD. And that would be a center-left coalition.
Fallout-NL
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This is great, hurray for GL.
Freeza Under The Shower
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absolute zero, nor would any sane person ask for that.
CDA is hard right on cultural stuff (Christians...), and conservative on economics, they would never accept this. Also, they would never hang out with a former communist party due to both history and communism being secular by force whereas CDA is religious by volition. This won't happen.
TatteredHat
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Theoretical? Yes. Practical? No. VVD gets first pick, and they'll find a way to make it work.
Given the direction the CDA has taken this election cycle, I am not sure that would work out. Could be wrong, but Buma has presented the party as clearly right wing during the debates. Now I get that this was to pander to potential PVV voters, but I am not sure if the CDA would work that much better with left parties than the VVD at this point. Especially the SP seems far out there for it to work.
Than a sustainable non-VVD majority is impossible.
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