Well, I'm rank 43, I already know there are lots of people better than me. I just wish there was some way to know what I have to do to rank up. I feel like I put in my best ever effort and got jack shit for it. This is why competitive sucks.
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Overwatch |OT4| You Want A Good Genji, But You Need The Bad Hanzo
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Well, I'm rank 43, I already know there are lots of people better than me. I just wish there was some way to know what I have to do to rank up. I feel like I put in my best ever effort and got jack shit for it. This is why competitive sucks.
I've definitely noticed it. I had some games yesterday where I had a full team wipe and just as I was about to rush in and rez I realized I am a few % short. I can remember 3 incidents like this, frankly it sucks.
I think Symmetra's primary magnetic beam's distance is shortened.
And D.VA, stack'em high. Stack'em high and win those zone attacks (A-B or capture center) because her ultimate is now ridiculous. It's hard to counter in defense of the zone, because it can clear the zone and keep on capturing, all the while firing her pesky shots. So two or at most 3 D.Va's with ultimates are pretty much any team needs to win the attacks when the timing is done right.
And D.VA, stack'em high. Stack'em high and win those zone attacks (A-B or capture center) because her ultimate is now ridiculous. It's hard to counter in defense of the zone, because it can clear the zone and keep on capturing, all the while firing her pesky shots. So two or at most 3 D.Va's with ultimates are pretty much any team needs to win the attacks when the timing is done right.
There's a few times that happened, but in most games it feels the same for me.
And apparently Torbjorn still gives console players trouble, our Torb had close to 50 elims on Hanamura. I don't know how he did it, they were just really uncoordinated.
There's always 1 common factor in the games you play
Honestly, you arent supposed to rank up for just playing the game more, you rank up by playing better. If you are better then your rank says, then you should effectively win more then 50% of your matches and also get rewarded for being the best player on your team.
I'm using it towards the beginning of the match, usually on defense before offense starts making a push. With the orb of discord you really take people out quickly. As long as you keep your distance Zenyatta's secondary fire is really good. Definitely overrated right now.
Finally put some more time into the buffed heroes (PS4):
McCree: Yeah he's pretty damn good. He's pretty much Widowmaker-lite while still being good in closer range as well.
D.Va: Huge buff. She actually is great now and also quite annoying to fight against if you keep switching the shield on and off.
Zen: First game playing with him I went 34-2 while still putting a good amount of healing. He was already good I thought but now you don't get as many random easy deaths as earlier. Straightly put he's amazing now and if you have Reinhardt and Zarya in your team he becomes the best hero in the game.
Also played some Hanzo... He's really rubbish now lol. I don't see any reason to play him over McCree. Well scattershot is still great but it's just one ability.
McCree: Yeah he's pretty damn good. He's pretty much Widowmaker-lite while still being good in closer range as well.
D.Va: Huge buff. She actually is great now and also quite annoying to fight against if you keep switching the shield on and off.
Zen: First game playing with him I went 34-2 while still putting a good amount of healing. He was already good I thought but now you don't get as many random easy deaths as earlier. Straightly put he's amazing now and if you have Reinhardt and Zarya in your team he becomes the best hero in the game.
Also played some Hanzo... He's really rubbish now lol. I don't see any reason to play him over McCree. Well scattershot is still great but it's just one ability.
So does actively adapting to a situation hurt your rank? Like if I play 3 characters over the course of a game, am I not getting full rank possibility because of not sticking to one character and beating the average? Seems like a terrible way to judge how good someone is.
Think I'll just get my Ana thirst fulfilled in QP. Really enjoy playing her, but in a competitive environment she's far too risky of a pick.
Berserking Guts
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I thought this POTG was pretty funny considering I put him/her asleep lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqRsyw47jJ8
Although, I'm not sure what qualified it as POTG as there was nothing even remotely outstanding about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqRsyw47jJ8
Although, I'm not sure what qualified it as POTG as there was nothing even remotely outstanding about it.
optimus8936
Banned
I love how in your POTG, your Junkrat got a quad right in front of you lol. It said you got lifesaver and there was a high noon going off so you probably got it for putting a shield on your Rein, but still dumb that your Junkrat didn't get it. They really need to look at the system again and rework it.
TheWorthyEdge
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How does one play a good Ana?
So, regarding Ana's darts, there's actually an explanation as to why she only uses one type of dart in the game and why it can both heal and damage. At the SDCC panel they explained that when she's not working solo, her team is injected with anti-venom, otherwise she has separate darts, as shown in the last comic.
CertifiedFP
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By having good teammates to match. If you have a decent aim but can't land shit because your teammates keep moving erratically, it's on them.
Also, know your abilities and their uses. Sleep Dart stops ults in their tracks, bio nade all but guarantees victory in single combat against anyone but tanks and is also your main tool for healing - Yes, use your nade for heals, THEN the rifle.
Only use your ult on tanks - Preferably Reinhardt. Anything else is a waste IMO.
Source: I've been Maining Ana the past week with a high win rate and getting Gold heals against Zens and Lucios.
finalflame
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Man, I didn't play the game for 2 weeks due to other stuff going on and now coming back I am complete trash =( super demotivating, sigh.
Garrett Hawke
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Yeah, I don't think 70% accuracy is too much to ask considering her very generous hit boxes. That doesn't even factor in grenade healing either, which is 100hp on hit and double healing for a few seconds.
A capable Ana will out heal a Mercy, she just has a higher skill ceiling.
The Antitype
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How is it fucking possible for a team of players to watch a Reindhardt on their team march forward through a choke point with his shield, without a single on of them falling in behind the covered area to provide support fire?
How do these people put their pants on in the morning? Do they have private nurses to wipe their asses for them? How do they function in society if they lack the basic situational awareness for literally the most simple ability combination in the history of videogames?
How do these people put their pants on in the morning? Do they have private nurses to wipe their asses for them? How do they function in society if they lack the basic situational awareness for literally the most simple ability combination in the history of videogames?
The "information" I provided on the individual performance aspect was from reading posts on here. So, I have no credible source to provide you with whether or not this is actually how your rank is determined.
I'm not sure exactly how the game/Blizzard/Battlenet/whatever uses your stats. My guess is that switching characters probably does hurt you. But it might be a per second type of thing too. Either way, if you switching characters leads to your team winning that will net you more ranking gain than if you lose, obviously.
I think a players stats vs the community average is a decent way to decide individual performance. The exact execution of it is a different story. Just from a personal note, I've noticed that I seem to drop rank faster when I switch characters but usually when I switch characters it seems to hurt my ranking in a loss more. But that might be a placebo effect too.
Stay in the back-line and heal your front-line. Try not to make yourself an easy target for flanking Genji's and Tracer's though.
Nade is useful to heal yourself and others. If everyone is grouped up (allies and enemies), enemies won't be able to heal and your team can pick them off easier.
Combo your ult with a very strong character or a good ult. Genji's Dragonblade is probably the best, and Roadhog and Reinhardt are good to. Genji Ult + Ana Ult is maximum wombo, that shit is scary, Genji can wipe the whole team by himself.
Sleep-dart to stop high-noons and other damaging enemies. Ana can kill (or almost kill) 200 HP characters by putting them to sleep, throwing her nade at them, shooting them when they wake up, and melee-ing them.
BBPunjabi816
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A-MEI-ZING! (Sorry lol)
the worst when your reinhardt just casually charges into the enemy team for absolutely no reason at all
Spinosaurus
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Genji and Reaper with ults?
Vault Dweller 111
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the worst when your reinhardt just casually charges into the enemy team for absolutely no reason at all
OMG the absolute worse.
"Okay team here we are at the Hanamura A gate. We got a Rein shield up, lets take out all stationary defenses then move up"
Reinhardt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOMj7WttkOA
*charges in*
*gets destroyed*
*team is now down a tank and shield, gets wiped*
*repeat*
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rein destroys my ult :<
LumpOfCole
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Mei is invaluable on Payload Attack; her walls are very effective at pushing the defense back while the payload moves forward.
I just had a pretty good Roadhog game on Ilios, dropping people in the well one after the next. It's like the most satisfying thing in Overwatch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J1Pq8FPsnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J1Pq8FPsnU
Garrett Hawke
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L1 should've been the default jump on consoles tbh
None of the things mapped to L1 require aim while pressing the button, and being able to jump while aiming, shooting, etc is a game changer. I was doing Lucio hoops on Ilios and people had no idea how to counter it, lol.
None of the things mapped to L1 require aim while pressing the button, and being able to jump while aiming, shooting, etc is a game changer. I was doing Lucio hoops on Ilios and people had no idea how to counter it, lol.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
See, i love roadhogs like that because they are so easy to knock into the well with a concussion blast.
LightOfTruth
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Other than Uncharted 3, this game has the best representation of the arabic language I've ever heard. Can't believe how they totally nailed Ana's egyptian accent.
Mocha Nova Coffee Scotia
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It has to be a complete mistake getting nano boosted when playing as mei. Am I supposed to rush up to the enemy team and hope i can land perfect icecicle headshots while also freezing them too?
It's probably a mistake, sometimes someone just gets between your dart and your target.
I nano boosted a Hanzo today.
It can also be used defensively, since a boosted Mei is still taking less damage than a regular Mei so it's better than nothing if no one's around to defend the point, but still.
Red Arremer
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Pharah doesn't need a nerf though, she's perfectly fine. The only reason why she was so heavily used beforehand is that her counters sans 76 weren't all that good in general, but now there's the buffed McCree and Ana as well to counter her.
How do you determine who has "better stats" then? Sure, for an offense character that's pretty simple, damage done/kills/final blows are easy to track, but what do you do for supports or tanks?
A Lucio who has better healing stats is not necessarily a better Lucio than one with lower ones - perhaps the one with the lower healing stats knows when to switch to speed boost better, for instance. Same goes for instance for a Reinhardt - more damage blocked doesn't necessarily mean he is better at tanking, perhaps he's just one of those Reinhardts who have their shield up all the time and aren't strategically using it, or do nothing but shield.
Do you take average win quote? Would that really be fair, though? Someone preventing you to play a character just because they won more often with that character? Note the fact that Overwatch is not a single player game, but a team game - someone winning more often playing a hero does not necessarily mean they are better at playing that hero than someone else.
I don't think it's possible to determine who is better at playing a specific character through a numerical way, unless it's a massive difference in metrics.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
You know i don't really want to introduce even more chance for toxicity in the community.
Yeah i get it, some people just aren't very good, and I'll admit to sometimes being snide about it in chat because i can be petty as fuck especially after a frustrating loss, but I've really just taken to biting my lip except for making polite suggestions for team comp. More often than not they change which is nice, but if they don't whatever, and sometimes even if they changed we lose also.
Sometimes you're just out played, but there's no need to make it worse time for everyone involved and making people be elitist, forcing people off characters because they believe they can play it better, is just going to encourage toxic behavior even more.
You just gotta take your lumps sometimes. Just focus on improving yourself and play according to your team and opposition, because it's the only thing you can control.
I think so as well. I've been thrown off a few times by some heroes escaping me.
Red Arremer
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I thought it was just me, but yeah, it does feel that way.
Yeah, if they had a Pharah or their Lucio was better, I wouldn't have played so dangerously
.They let me get away with it, so might as well abuse the position.
Ultimate combo'ing is such an awesome feeling when it works. As Zarya I fired my ultimate, then Genji used his and then Ana shot Genji with her Nano Boost and it was a massacre.
Then another game I was D.Va and I called out that my Ult was ready, and so did Zarya, Ana, and Soldier. Once everyone's was ready Zarya led off and then I shot my mech and everyone's Ultimate just went off like fireworks. Amazing!
Then another game I was D.Va and I called out that my Ult was ready, and so did Zarya, Ana, and Soldier. Once everyone's was ready Zarya led off and then I shot my mech and everyone's Ultimate just went off like fireworks. Amazing!
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Honestly kinda of a waste though.
Genji should be able to take out everyone in a blackhole with dragon blade even without the boost.Got another voice line from Tracer which i hadn't heard before: killing Widowmaker feels good.
Also played a attack round on Anubis, we managed to defend the 2nd point so when we attacked we quickly captured point 1 and kept throwing ourselves at point 2 to no avail. So in the dying seconds, this happens. Love the D.va buff, i think the end of the match could have turned out quite different if i still took damage from the ultimate.
Also played a attack round on Anubis, we managed to defend the 2nd point so when we attacked we quickly captured point 1 and kept throwing ourselves at point 2 to no avail. So in the dying seconds, this happens. Love the D.va buff, i think the end of the match could have turned out quite different if i still took damage from the ultimate.
xaosslug
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eh, her best counter was Torb, and since he's nerfed... now what? >_>
and I'm sure Blizz can figure out some way to calculate it all. I mean isn't the way they calculate how much rank up you receive from how you played on that map vs. other peeps who played that character, or something?
i don't believe it would be toxic, it would just be the way it is, so accept it or whine or whatever. I mean sometimes peeps CAMP characters, match after match, and they're not really playing them well, and that's not helping. I feel like character bumping would be OK.
it would be no hard feelings, just the way it is.
ElephantShell
Banned
It's pretty fun and satisfying but overdoing it can put the team in a pretty bad spot, depending on the situation.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Also can i just say that roadhog has been a little ridiculous after the patch?
I feel like i get whole hog up after every half minute.
Also i discovered that it's a great counter to nano boost actually. Got boosted? How about you just be really far from everyone else?
I feel like i get whole hog up after every half minute.
Also i discovered that it's a great counter to nano boost actually. Got boosted? How about you just be really far from everyone else?
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