Trail Guide
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Yes! I went back to Quick Play last night and actually won games and had fun.
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Overwatch |OT4| You Want A Good Genji, But You Need The Bad Hanzo
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Interfectum
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Well give competitive points to the losing team members who reach a certain threshold in the game. Objective time, damage, healing something.
As of right now competitive at 50 and below is almost broken. I had where two matches in a row one of my teammates left early, killing our game. I lost two ranks and got no points for participating. I finally got on a winning team but one of the opposing team members rage quit before the end and I gained only a fraction of a rank back. That's insane... I'm not really seeing the reason to continue playing ranked after something like that. And it seems as I get lower and lower ranked the more chance of people leaving goes up.
So you have the odds of two things happening now.
- Your teammate quits, you lose an entire rank.
- The opposing teammate quits, you gain a fraction of a rank.
If that continues we'll all be level 1 by the end of the season.
I'd just report them and tell everyone else to the same as well and let the system do its work. Eventually they will get banned from comp for it.
Newtype-001
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Everything with the mask on is better.
I've been noticing this too. Unless the Defending team is all DPS, they cannot handle the multiple tanks.
nightmare-slain
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no but i will give it a try, thanks!
Over the past 3 days this has happened to multiple people in our 6 man group, game starts, they get kicked by the server. Its really annoying because most of that time we basically instantly lose the game being down 5v6. It was happening 2-3 times a night to us.
I think Soldier has great Legendaries.
Zarya is someone in need of better ones though, also hoping Blizzard removes the ridiculous goggles from Arctic and Siberian Front as well to improve them.
That's because the player base is fractured into four different modes now. Quick Play, vs. AI, Weekly Brawl, and Competitive Mode.
Interfectum
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Haha this nails it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulArsJQV7to
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Do people actually play vs AI?
Interfectum
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I did in the beginning to get a feel for some heroes but I haven't since the first week of launch.
Most of my friends have suggested the same thing today. 'Let's ignore ranked!'. Definitely more chill and experimental as others have said.
That sounds like a nightmare. If this consistently happens to my group I know they'll pack their bags on ranked for the time being. It's a pity since in principle I enjoy the game mode, but the current implementation has me balking.
Dead Prince
Banned
I usually hate these things, but its so on point, i couldnt stop laughing. I mean seriously, Blizzard says they listen to the community, but they have completely botched competetive out of the gate.
I still do when waiting for a spot to open up in a group, because fuck randoms. The queue times, on average, seem to be about 10 minutes.
Vs AI is pretty pointless due to the poor difficulty curve. Medium is insanely easy and Hard is basically impossible without playing to perfection. There's nothing in between for mere mortals.
I find it really hard to believe that you dropped 8 ranks in one day solely because you had leavers.
Plus the difference in skill between 57 and 49 is not large enough that you're getting a totally different type of player base. You're imagining things.
Harsher punishments for leavers are coming in the next patch, don't worry.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Yeah I don't think I've even touched the vs AI menu. 
GwyndolinCinder
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Imagine if competitive mode details leaked before release, no one would believe it. "Sounds like the worst competitive mode ever, made by a 5 year old. Defiantly not legit! " - gaf users.
Interfectum
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I don't care if you believe me or not, tbh. Check every forum related to OW right now... it's plaguing the mode.
I did my placements and came in at 56. Won/lost a bunch and went from 57 to 56 to 57. Yesterday started at 57, lost a few legit games, got to 55. From there literally every game I had someone left, either on my team or their's. I plummeted to 49, got into a game where everyone started as widowmaker on my team... i rage quit out early. So I guess I'm 48 now.
Harsher punishments are not the answer. You can't force a team to stay in a losing game with zero incentive to continue besides being punished for leaving.
THIS! Only our team was down a man for an entire round. I was ecstatic to get the win after being down one player only to find out my reward was cut! If anything it should be higher!
Interfectum
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That was the first and only time I left. Didn't care at that point.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
They were looking at giving a 75% decrease in skill rank gained for people who leave intentionally. Would you have still ragequit your game if you knew that you'd get penalized for the next 3-5 games with virtually no gain in rating?
The other idea they had for repeat offenders is having them suspended for the season. They realize leavers in competitive is a problem for everyone, so the fix is coming.
I see you've never looked at Zarya's skins
Kayo Police
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This what I noticed as well, as soon as the ranks start dropping, people are more and more likely to rage quit.
I'm a low rank personally low 40s, played 16 games yesterday went 8-8 had 2 games where the my team left after a quick cap and had 6 games where the enemy team left either after losing a point quickly or nearing the end of a game.
I really need to stop solo queueing in ranked, but I keep saying one more game
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
76 looks fine without the mask, it's his ugly ass alt outfits.
Dead Prince
Banned
not his daredevil one. the 'stache is to die for. so patriotic when the game is over and you jump and let someone witness all his glory as he slowly glides in the air.
Oh god I hate that highlight intro too... you're a monster
edit: ... I meant that goofy skin + that one goofy highlight intro where he shoots the rocket. Worst combo ever.
Interfectum
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I don't think that's going to fix it. People leaving is a symptom of a greater problem. The matches are too long and there's no incentive for the losing team to continue besides being punished. Also, they need to stop punishing the winning team for the losing team having someone who quit the game. That's a huge oversight, IMO.
Newtype-001
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Im dead
A majority of my experience with ranked games and MMR/ELO in team games comes from Dota, but hear me out.
This was a huge problem for Ranked play in Dota 2 as well, but every year they've made punishments more and more harsh and I can say from experience that it's made a huge difference. The only time people get an abandon in my ranked games is when there are connection issues. And these are usually 45-60 min games.
Sure, no one wants to play a game they know they will lose, but it doesn't make any sense to fuck up your next 5 games and waste your time just because you didn't feel like staying til the end.
Interfectum
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Does Dota 2 punish the winning team if the losing team is down a player? I'm actually curious as I haven't played it in forever.
I think, even with harsher punishments, you are still gonna have potential players quitting simply to mess up the winning team's gains.
ScaryShark
Banned
How are the games too long? As it is now actually gives the losing team a chance to adapt and overcome. I really, really like the pace of play as it exists right now.
Maybe I'm used to it after having played MOBAs but I've never felt a game dragged on and those that are long are because they're extremely close and competitive.
Maybe I'm used to it after having played MOBAs but I've never felt a game dragged on and those that are long are because they're extremely close and competitive.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
So I basically turned into the asshole who does not pick anyone but hanzo today just so I could get some practice in with him for the first time.
He's pretty fun actually. Also played some matches where I felt like I actually contributed!
He's pretty fun actually. Also played some matches where I felt like I actually contributed!
What if they afk?
Dead Prince
Banned
were you sniping or mid range.
Dead Prince
Banned
it's tuesday. can the game be headshot only. and all heroes can be picked outside of the obvious ones.
You still think it'd be worth it? Idk. I think it's stupid punishing the winning team but the crux of the problem is still people leaving. More bans for leavers = Less people leaving = Less silly punishments for good teams
edit: People are trying to rank up, generally, if they're playing Competitive. How does ruining the winning team's gains benefit the player? It just makes it harder for the leaver to rank up.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I actually find myself going close range for some reason, which is even dumber. But no, no sniping. Mostly mid. Still need to get a feel of flanking with him.
Nah, because right now you get punished if you have a leaver on your team. You are forced to play the rest of the match as a 5v6 and even if you dont get a penalty for leaving, you still incur a loss.
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