Attack Hanzo can be powerful, as I said, can be useful as long as you move up to support rather than sitting around at the very back all the time. Attack Widhewmaker though...? You would have to have a very poor understanding of the game and extreme noobality to make such a poor judgement.
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Overwatch |OT4| You Want A Good Genji, But You Need The Bad Hanzo
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I'm scared I could never go back to a normal game after this
Did you try it out yet? It's not the most extreme thing but it's a very noticeable difference on somebody like McCree.
If you think losing 2 ranks in a night is bad, I have news for you.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Wait, 3rd CP on anubis?
Sorry, should have wrote out check point. Each circle has what, 2 checkpoints? It's late, and I'm dumb. Anyways, I think those should count as points. A team that fills up 75% of the circle did better than a team who only did 50%, but right now that isn't taken into account at all.
Oh wow.
Is there a gameplay vid of this guy? Id love to see how that looks
I would like to know if he even uses a controller and if he ever solo qs.
I think the idea is that *a win is a win," at least that's how this commenter interprets it: http://www.sirlin.net/posts/overwatchs-competitive-mode
But as also outlined in that post it doesn't quite work and the SD (at least in it's current implementation) is a bad way to resolve the problem. I'm curious about the time bank they're talking about introducing in season 2, where payload will function similarly to CP maps in that you get to push the cart again in the leftover time. But not only will this be functionally similar to Stopwatch (so why not use that from the start), it will make matches even longer which is already an issue in one game mode.
My first though was that he has to be us a kbm adapter thing. But is there kbm suport for ow?
MarioHead3
Banned
As far as I know, there's no way to do that in Overwatch without some kind of modding. It would break the game considering they balance the console versions separately.
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
Do you have stats behind this?
Sadly no one has the numbers, but that statement was off of blizzard saying it was very close and that people still hated it and believed it wasn't in their favor when they announced they're removing it for the fall season.
Hell I think my group is 4-2 for Sudden Death and we all hate it still.
Guys, I think I just had the single worst played match I've ever fucking seen with this game.
Attack on Hollywood.
One player picks Symmetra, because of course they do.
But the truly fascinating thing is how they kept us at the spawn point and played things out from there. They just kept flanking us around the paths that we, the attacking team, were meant to be taking. Even their Torbjorn was getting in on this action, without his turret, without his Molten Core and he still won out against our soldier. So I thought "Well, bad start, but this is an easy counter, surely my team will know they need to just charge ahead so that atleast the defenders will have to pull back or else lose the objective."
No. NO.
For some bizarre reason, they basically turned it into a TDM in the open area near the spawn point. I was shooting at a Roadhog that was right behind my team's McCree, and he didn't turn around. Somehow he didn't hear his snorting, reload animation, the fact that he was firing at me, or anything. He wasn't even busy firing at someone else at the time, it was just....
And then the D.Va who decided to Self Destruct in a room in the shop. Right as the enemy turned the corner and was safe. But hey, it's not we needed to clear that choke point where 3 enemies were or anything, right?
The Symmetra is the one that amazed me. Yeah, go ahead, set up the teleporter in the shop area, it's not like the enemy is downstairs or that it's not even far from the checkpoint.
I'm not a great mercy, but I don't think I was doing that bad. But there was literally nothing I could do to save a team that is obviously playing the game for the very first time, whatever their level may be. I have no other explanation for what I witnessed. I'm not even mad, just....shocked.
Attack on Hollywood.
One player picks Symmetra, because of course they do.
But the truly fascinating thing is how they kept us at the spawn point and played things out from there. They just kept flanking us around the paths that we, the attacking team, were meant to be taking. Even their Torbjorn was getting in on this action, without his turret, without his Molten Core and he still won out against our soldier. So I thought "Well, bad start, but this is an easy counter, surely my team will know they need to just charge ahead so that atleast the defenders will have to pull back or else lose the objective."
No. NO.
For some bizarre reason, they basically turned it into a TDM in the open area near the spawn point. I was shooting at a Roadhog that was right behind my team's McCree, and he didn't turn around. Somehow he didn't hear his snorting, reload animation, the fact that he was firing at me, or anything. He wasn't even busy firing at someone else at the time, it was just....
And then the D.Va who decided to Self Destruct in a room in the shop. Right as the enemy turned the corner and was safe. But hey, it's not we needed to clear that choke point where 3 enemies were or anything, right?
The Symmetra is the one that amazed me. Yeah, go ahead, set up the teleporter in the shop area, it's not like the enemy is downstairs or that it's not even far from the checkpoint.
I'm not a great mercy, but I don't think I was doing that bad. But there was literally nothing I could do to save a team that is obviously playing the game for the very first time, whatever their level may be. I have no other explanation for what I witnessed. I'm not even mad, just....shocked.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I kind of don't understand how ana's accuracy stat on overbuff is calculated. Like, I was shocked when I saw that I had 10% accuracy, but apparently chipshajen also only has 18% accuracy and I know that he can aim
https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/chipshajen/heroes/ana
https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/chipshajen/heroes/ana
lol just played with the worst mercy in ranked, granted he was 25 but still lol, I doubt he even know that he could switch weapons.
was playing reinhardt, no heal and when I got her attention she damage boosted me. same thing with my friends, she just neglected them and followed our 5th guy, around.
I wasn't even mad, because it was obvious that she didn't know what she was doing.
e: is there a way to look up the statistics of the game, would really like to see her statistics.
was playing reinhardt, no heal and when I got her attention she damage boosted me. same thing with my friends, she just neglected them and followed our 5th guy, around.
I wasn't even mad, because it was obvious that she didn't know what she was doing.
e: is there a way to look up the statistics of the game, would really like to see her statistics.
buy teh haloz
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It might not count healing friendly players for some reason.
Yeah, win or lose it mostly feels like a dice roll. Not just for who gets to attack or defend, but for whether or not the desperate push is successful.
I'll be honest here, I'd be tempted to leave the game if I were you. I wouldn't, but the temptation would be strong.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
That would be... a really bad way to measure it?
Also apparently I need to be killing people more and healing people more, because goddamn chips, goddamn. Right now I'm still mainly focused on healing but I really need to learn to balance attack and healing.
It's terrible for me personally.
LonelyGreyWolf
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Ah, I see. I feel like the attackers are at an advantage, but maybe that's not the case.
Forerunner
Member
You go to social and look at recent players. You can view their statistics from there if your remember their name. If you mean the statistics from that game, no you can't do that unfortunately. Just their overall stats.
i don't get the hate for Hanzo either. i think he's pretty good for his abilities. sure, you might get shitty Hanzo players but good ones are useful. i should play him more now. let the hate flow through them.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean people can still get away, but it's an ult, it should be able to catch people out from time to time instead of barely. You still need to use it smartly.
I know, sorry I didn't mean for that to sound like I was complaining or saying there should be a nerf. I suppose it may have sounded that way.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Haha nah that's alright, I'm just used to seeing people going "NERF THIS" which is ironic.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Veelk that match sounds hilarious lmao
My W/L ratio has been plummeting in QP ever since Ana got introduced. Somehow, it just made the whole thing much, much stupider. I've kind of accepted that when Solo queuing, I'm often going to be thrown into games where the game is simply impossible to win. I've grown to like Ranked more, but I still feel I am not having the kind of fun I should be. I mean, I am having fun. I have intense matches and I like the structure of Ranked way more, tie breaking coin flip aside.
But it's not a perfect fit for me like Mobawatch was. For one, I still don't like the idea of 'nonviable heroes'. It's not that even a matter of balance, it's the fact that, say, Widowmaker requires such a high skill ceiling that to be a viable team member, the player needs to be unreasonably good to not be a detriment to the team. If that's the case, I'd want a mode where the punishment for losing isn't a severe rank drop or guaranteed loss, so playing her isn't such a risk. For another thing, I come out of matches often....relieved, more than excited. Again, matches can get intense, and sometimes I'm looking for that, but other times it's more of a "Thank god that's over" feeling, even if I've won.
A mode that has the structure of Competitive (or atleast without hero stacking) that doesn't track or rank you would be my ideal game mode. Right now, I'm stuck trying to pick between QP and Comp. Quickplay has roughly 60-70% of the players a bad match for me with varying degrees of severity. Comp is just a bit more intense than I'd like. One's too hot, the other is too cold, and I want one that's just right.
the irony is they made it better.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Have you tried playing with a proper team? Having at least one friend will make any bullshit tolerable, and even allows you to strategise a bit. The more friends, the more possibilities, obviously, but even just one can improve your match quality significantly.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Just got off a 6 hour session on PS4, super fun. There were SO many attack Widows on our team though, omfg. Like every second game there was a KOTH attack Widow, and they were bad.
While Widow can be great on certain payload maps, for KOTH she is practically useless, and even on payload maps the Widow needs to be competent. None of these Widows were.
While Widow can be great on certain payload maps, for KOTH she is practically useless, and even on payload maps the Widow needs to be competent. None of these Widows were.
Yeah. I don't have a huge amount of people on my friendslist, but I play with friends when I can, and yeah, ti's much better. Or even just playing with people that are in voice chat.
But I also do a lot of solo work, and it just sucks SO bad in QP. Most matches are just straight up bullshit. And I don't understand why, because before the update, QP wasn't perfect, but it wasn't as bad as this.
Feel free to send me a friend request if you want though. I could always use more people to play with. PS username is KingofBlades2278
Just got off a 6 hour session on PS4, super fun. There were SO many attack Widows on our team though, omfg. Like every second game there was a KOTH attack Widow, and they were bad.
While Widow can be great on certain payload maps, for KOTH she is practically useless, and even on payload maps the Widow needs to be competent. None of these Widows were.
you're on PS4? gimme your PSN bro
MarioHead and I were in King's Row against a really good Widow. Killed a bunch of us but sadly, but the rest of her teammates weren't as effective. I destroyed them with my Junkrat.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean for better or worse people kinda treat QP as practice. Like, I'll still pay attention to team comp, and I'll still try my best to win, but I'm not necessarily going to play the characters I'm the best at because I do want to get some practice with the characters I want to learn.
Widow on KotH are practically useless, at least with my experiences with them. They don't contest the point and once they've been spotted they are quickly swatted.Just got off a 6 hour session on PS4, super fun. There were SO many attack Widows on our team though, omfg. Like every second game there was a KOTH attack Widow, and they were bad.
While Widow can be great on certain payload maps, for KOTH she is practically useless, and even on payload maps the Widow needs to be competent. None of these Widows were.
Zomba13
Member
I totally get being casual on QP and using it to practice and I don't get people who get pissed off at it. Like, where am I supposed to learn a character? Versus the brain dead AI? One on one with a friend in a custom game with brain dead bots?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Like, still try your best, but I'm still going to try it with the characters i want to practice with which might not be the best.
Zomba13
Member
Yeah. I mean, I'm not gonna practice my Ana in a game where we already have an Ana or we have a Mercy and Zen or something or if we need a Tank. Don't sabotage your QP game and the rest of your teams experience for selfish reasons, but if you pick Winston and you've not picked him before and we needed a Tank anyway I can't be mad at you for making an effort and learning a character.
I don't mind that at all. But I just feel that I've disproportionately, somehow, got matched up with teammates that...lets say, are practicing and against teams that are pretty good.
It's just weird because I had like a 30-40 lead on my W/L ratio. Over the last week, it's gone down to merely 14. Something must have happened that I'm suddenly losing so many more games, and I'm basically playing the same as usual.
MarioHead3
Banned
I had a match earlier where someone on our team went Mei and tried to block us from doing anything because I played Ana.
Pretty sure we won that match too.
TheApatheticOne
Member
I need more people on my PS4 friends list still playing this regularly because I feel like this all the time now, especially since Ana hit. My win percent in the last 2 weeks... Id be shocked if it were over 25%.
It gets tiring when the story goes "here's 5 teammates all under rank 50. They like long walks on the beach, and only play Genji, Hanzo, Widow and Ana. Torbjorn and Symmetra if on attack. They also think this is TDM. And have decided to get drunk and play with their feet. Blindfolded." Then Ill finish with 5 medals, typically 3-4 gold, 4-5 if Im playing a healer, while my team gets epically destroyed on a biblical level. And Im average. :/
That scenario has played out WAYYYY too often recently.
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