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Oh noooo. How awful for them.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Because shield generator is pretty legit.
I still wouldn't want her for anything past static defenses. These attack syms on koth are driving me crazy.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Yeah, it kinda sucks. I want to see how I've changed season to season.
Psychoward
Banned
Lucio's music stops playing before the grooving emote ends and it makes the last few seconds kind of awkward
This can be fixed by crossfading right before you activate the emote but still
This can be fixed by crossfading right before you activate the emote but still
blue_phazon
Member
Wait WHAT
I would love that just cause it sounds cool but I need to the cues for when people are using ults
Nuno Pinto
Member
Best skin.
Good.
I just jumped into competitive with Ana when I came back to the game. Now I'm significantly better so I'd like to see improvement and where I can still improve.
Bought 11 boxes and the only legendary I got was Goth Zarya and the only epic that wasn't a duplicate was ticking Zenyatta emote.
What a waste. At least I've got enough money to buy either Yeti or Nutcracker if I don't get one in a box until January 2nd. Not sure which one is more worth it though. I play Zenyatta more, but at least Yeti doesn't look TOO christmas when its anything but December.
What a waste. At least I've got enough money to buy either Yeti or Nutcracker if I don't get one in a box until January 2nd. Not sure which one is more worth it though. I play Zenyatta more, but at least Yeti doesn't look TOO christmas when its anything but December.
Incendiary
Banned
It's weird because in-game you can see your stats from previous seasons, so you'd think it would be available to pull if they're getting their data from Blizzard and the game.
jediyoshi
Member
In the PC version*
I think the rest of the sound effects that play during an ult are recognizable enough you could tell without the voices entirely
My dream of hearing Torbjorn speaking Swedish is about to come true!In the PC version*
I think the rest of the sound effects that play during an ult are recognizable enough you could tell without the voices entirely
RecRoulette
Member
Did anyone here play enough of the beta to try the old competitive system? I thought it was a lot better since all wins were weighted equally, and it took all of the guesswork out of how much you moved based on wins and losses. I guess most folks hated it since they scrapped it though. Was in the topic about ranked splitting up friends and thought to ask it here.
Shes better but I don't want attack syms when there are better options out there.
NeoRaider
Member
A Chinese team ran a KotH Sym at Team Story. I think they lost pretty bad though. Basically the rework only strengthened her on maps she was already good at, and made good at the second point on 2CP.
I really hope teams experiment with her more on payload defense, I really feel like she is viable there too. Sym turret buff makes her less of a static defense character, I always have a stockpile of turrets. Ideally on a map like Volskaya, you want to place those turrets in weird spots as they enemies are approaching the choke, so you get some ult charge, and reinforce your defense when some turrets are destroyed.
Route 66 second payload phase seems like a good point for Sym, and Dorado 3rd point as well.
EDIT: Like if you can establish highground on 66 second, Sym could place her generator in the hallway leading from the factory (or what ever that is). Dorado second point doesn't have a lot of opportunities for her to build ult charge IMO. 3rd point seems good because it also has a good spot for shield gen, and on the high ground you have tiny little hallways that makes Syms alt fire extremely good. Also forget to mention I like her on Watchpoint second the best. The only issue with that map being in very high level play, you either establish your defense or you get rolled into last.
I really hope teams experiment with her more on payload defense, I really feel like she is viable there too. Sym turret buff makes her less of a static defense character, I always have a stockpile of turrets. Ideally on a map like Volskaya, you want to place those turrets in weird spots as they enemies are approaching the choke, so you get some ult charge, and reinforce your defense when some turrets are destroyed.
Route 66 second payload phase seems like a good point for Sym, and Dorado 3rd point as well.
EDIT: Like if you can establish highground on 66 second, Sym could place her generator in the hallway leading from the factory (or what ever that is). Dorado second point doesn't have a lot of opportunities for her to build ult charge IMO. 3rd point seems good because it also has a good spot for shield gen, and on the high ground you have tiny little hallways that makes Syms alt fire extremely good. Also forget to mention I like her on Watchpoint second the best. The only issue with that map being in very high level play, you either establish your defense or you get rolled into last.
Human Trashcan
Banned
Today is very very special. Gold elims as Ana (13) on Volskaya. In Platinum. Loss after loss because people are just fucking atrocious and the matchmaking keeps grouping me with golds, even someone in placement (level 33). This game hates me.
Oh boy I know im gonna have a bad time with competitive. I love the game mode but about to start 4th game and something happened with the server (can't tell if it was my WiFi or the games fault) and now I'm briefly suspended.
Worst part is that my I've had no problem with my wifI with my games currently including this one so I'm now gonna be paranoid about losing the server and getting banned...
Worst part is that my I've had no problem with my wifI with my games currently including this one so I'm now gonna be paranoid about losing the server and getting banned...
blue_phazon
Member
In the PC version*
I think the rest of the sound effects that play during an ult are recognizable enough you could tell without the voices entirely
Aw too bad I'm a pleb on PS4
Bought a bunch of boxes (50ish). Got a Yeti, a few legendary skins, tonnes of epics.
Had enough to buy Nutcracker and an epic emote for Zen. Happy Xmas!
Not into the meta yet (only level 9), but Zen is easily my favourite so far. Looking forward to ranked games despite the moaning ITT.
Had enough to buy Nutcracker and an epic emote for Zen. Happy Xmas!
Not into the meta yet (only level 9), but Zen is easily my favourite so far. Looking forward to ranked games despite the moaning ITT.
It's not fun picking Hanzo and anyone who does should feel bad about themselves. Worst character.
Psychoward
Banned
AFAIK there's no banning, just xp loss and suspensions. Banning is reserved for hackers. But I've only had to quit one comp game so don't take my word for it.
Anyway kinda weird thing but in Blizzard's Frosted render for Zarya on an Instagram ad she has pink nails but in-game they're white.
Psychoward
Banned
Haha, yes. I approve
I've switched to Mercy on KotH when my team are ensuring that only 2 of them are in line of sight to heal at any given time, making Lucio mostly useless. Pocketing your one strong DPS can turn the tide, if they take advantage of any openings your other flailing teammates make.
And when that doesn't work, switch to Tracer, start killin' things and hope for the best.
Ana is balanced.
I would argue Mercy/Lucio/Zen have far better ultimates for team fights though and, in my experience, seem to be far better at keeping your team alive with general healing.
if your ana is bad, then sure
Mercy has to either hide, making it a 5 v 6 or risk dying in a 6 v 6 to get use out of it.
Zen's is good but gets countered by Ana's grenade.
Without an Ana grenade, Zen probably has the best support ult. Lucio probably second. Ana's is very good too and Mercy/Lucio/Zen don't have far better ultimates. I would probably put them as Zen>=Lucio>Ana>>>Mercy.
Ana is the best for keeping your team alive. Zen and Lucio's healing is very low compared to Mercy and Ana. Ana also has the dart which can save people, ie charged by reinhardt or hooked by Roadhog as well as the highest burst healing.
Vital Tundra
Member
So all in all, Ana is way to good right now.
Only level 9, but so far Zen seems the most efficient healer simply because you can spam it to keep your team topped up and it has lock on.
I understand this will change later, especially with pre-mades and good comms, but in pub QP Zen is my favourite healer.
I teamed up with a random Soldier earlier and we stuck together. He kept me safe while I healed the team, and I made sure to de-buff his targets. The team play aspect of this game is really something.
I understand this will change later, especially with pre-mades and good comms, but in pub QP Zen is my favourite healer.
I teamed up with a random Soldier earlier and we stuck together. He kept me safe while I healed the team, and I made sure to de-buff his targets. The team play aspect of this game is really something.
I was merely going by healing outputs on Overbuff and Ana is far behind Lucio/Mercy while essentially tied with Zen.
At basically any level, you can't go wrong with the healer picks. They are all solid picks, each with their own positives and negatives that scale with your team composition and the enemy's.
Psychoward
Banned
Ana is the best support currently but I do feel like she has the worst ultimate out of all the supports.
Mercy is trash for KOTH and not too great on attack either. I mean obviously at level 9 I'd take a KOTH mercy over a dps who can't hit shit but..
Mercy is trash for KOTH and not too great on attack either. I mean obviously at level 9 I'd take a KOTH mercy over a dps who can't hit shit but..
Pretty much. I hope she'll still be fun when she gets the enivitable nerf.
Total healing doesn't correlate with ability to keep them alive. Lucio usually has the highest heals but that's because he heals up to 6 people. In a fight his speed boost is more likely to keep people alive unless they've been naded first.
Ana's total healing isn't high as Lucio or mercy because hers is a burst healing. Mercy and Lucio are good for healing poke damage and for in between fights. If somebody gets focused Ana's burst heals can keep them alive.
I would say you can go wrong with healer picks. I think mercy is pretty detrimental unless you are also running pharah.
Psychoward
Banned
Agreed, even Mercy who imo is the least fun to play is basically just a more interesting TF2 Medic. Blizz did a good job in making healers fun to play.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Ana is fucking fun though. So that's something.
I have a gold gun coming soon, so just tell us if you're going to make her unplayable or not Blizz.
I have a gold gun coming soon, so just tell us if you're going to make her unplayable or not Blizz.
Vital Tundra
Member
I can see many nerfs in percentages, but also maybe a rework of her biotic grenade. Whatever the case I don't think the nerfs will deter Ana mains from playing her.
Who is the best support to play with Ana? I generally recommend Lucio to teams as I like his ability to spread out healing to my more targeted burst and his defensive ultimate.
Y'all got anymore of that Ana?
Y'all got anymore of that Ana?
Who is the best support to play with Ana? I generally recommend Lucio to teams as I like his ability to spread out healing to my more targeted burst and his defensive ultimate.
Y'all got anymore of that Ana?
Lucio. He can protect her with boops if she gets dived and his aoe healing synergies really well with the grenade.
NeoRaider
Member
I like to pick Ana only if in my team are at least 2 tanks if not i always go Mercy and sometimes Zen. I am not playing Lucio and i don't consider Symmetra to be a healer.
Mercy is my most played healer and i am the best with her, usually getting Epic cards and compliments when i play Mercy. Maybe she is not as fun as Zen or Ana but i personally like her the most.
Mercy is my most played healer and i am the best with her, usually getting Epic cards and compliments when i play Mercy. Maybe she is not as fun as Zen or Ana but i personally like her the most.
I think Ana has got to the "Lucio" point now where any nerf to her isn't going to stop her from being integral to the meta. But a nerf can at least make her more fun to play against as well as allowing non meta comps to stand some sort of chance. I can't even remember the last time I won the Reinhardt battle with Lucio+Zen vs Ana+Lucio/Zen. You're just clobbering away at their Reinhardt and then next second he's at full health again whilst you can't even heal.
her ultimate is only as good as the ana and person you put it on, much more so now that there's no speed buff in play.
regardless, try solo healing four tanks as lucio. then try as ana.
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