Hoya Destroyer
Member
Widow seems crap. Too slow to run and too weak to defend herself when shes spotted.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Overwatch |OT6.99999997311%| Game of the Year
- Thread starter ExMachina
- Start date
THe_DeiCiDe
Member
5-0 in 1v1
It's pretty fun, I like it.
The best part is, you depend on your own skill...not knucklehead teammates who are lost in the sauce.
It's pretty fun, I like it.
The best part is, you depend on your own skill...not knucklehead teammates who are lost in the sauce.
I only play with Pharah and Mercy so it was interesting to play with other heroes.
But still... <3 Pharah and Mercy <3
Terareflection
Member
McCree > Soldier. Always. Until the end of times. <3 him.
THe_DeiCiDe
Member
Especially when Winston leaps in & crushes Widow. That scientist knows how to harass squishes, but it's extra fun when you fling a Widow off from her sniping perch and that player falls into a bottomless ditch. I'm starting to like playing as Winston, as he's equal parts goofy & fun. (Hi, there!) I still need to get better with engagements & know when to leap to safety.
super-famicom
Member
This happened to me yesterday. We needed to push the cart 3 more meters. I just shot things and we won.
PalaceBrother
Member
I've had good luck as Sombra getting behind the enemy the enemy and hacking Rein's shield. Same thing with D.Va's matrix. Drop your locator on a health pack, stealth up, hack then bounce back.
I'm quite confident this basic strategy will be hard countered very soon by something obvious, but it's working consistently now.
I'm quite confident this basic strategy will be hard countered very soon by something obvious, but it's working consistently now.
You'd be surprised the number of times I have accidentally killed Sombra. When I charged into McCree & followed up with a Firestrike to an enemy Mercy that was far away, I missed her, but somehow killed a cloaked Sombra. It's becoming infuriating, to be perfectly honest.
I have actually seen much better Widow plays first hand since the patch. We were losing on Nepal 0-2, and in the last round our Sombra switched to Widow and we steamrolled them. She got POTG too.
Her rifle charge increase seemed to help a lot in getting quick snipes.
Hoya Destroyer
Member
I watched a video on youtube about Widow before I even bought this game and the guy had similar things to say about Winston being unstoppable against Widow. TBH, I die to everyone with her right now (in close quarters).
I only bought the game to day, so maybe I just need to spend more time with her. All my headshots have been lucky so far. lol
I HATE playing Reinhardt when there is a decent Sombra on the enemy team. That match-up is 10-0.
But like I said before, she is much better defense than offense, especially on control maps.
Her assault rifle should be more effective in close-quarters. Maybe not to the extent of Soldier: 76's, but it needs a bit more of a punch when you have to deal with harassers that are sucker punching you to death.
Seriously, I aimed all my shots at Mercy's head, but it only tickled her while she made me into Swiss cheese with her pistol. Definitely not my brightest moment when I tried out Widow Maker (though I did get POTG with her).
divisionbyzorro
Member
So you want to get kills from across the map without putting yourself in danger and also have the ability to get kills when you get ambushed?
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Aren't you the guy who was in gold not too long ago and shot up? It'd be so awesome to make it all the way to diamond this season.
I'd be happy to group up with people in the 2800-2999 range to try to get that last little bit before the end. Obviously I can't guarantee results, but we could try.
Once you hit Masters, we won't be able to play Comp together again until next Season. 😢
Vault Dweller 111
Member
IIRC the spread on her primary fire is pretty ridiculous. It's basically just a panic mode weapon and really is not that effective, but I think it's like that for a reason. If she were close to as deadly as soldier with that thing, getting the jump on a good player (hard enough to do already) wouldn't be as advantageous and you'd probably just be shredded. It would make her very strong at mid-close range which is where her weakness should be IMO.
Nuno Pinto
Member
Aren't you like 100-200 away from it? At least you were the last time I checked, I don't invite you when I'm on because I always assumed you didn't want to group up since you probably won't gain as much SR by being on a group with a lower SR, and can lose much more in case we are defeated.
You were pretty close to masters last I checked. Why quit?
Vault Dweller 111
Member
https://youtu.be/abDTwnAEDa8
Capturing the point is going great. Then one Dva bomb, and one sick LiK tire later all 11 other people in the game are dead instantly.
Weird fucking end to the round.
Capturing the point is going great. Then one Dva bomb, and one sick LiK tire later all 11 other people in the game are dead instantly.
Weird fucking end to the round.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Please invite me, I'm just trying to have fun now.
If it happens it happens, I'm not throwing games or anything, but I've been one game away four times and gotten 2CP maps every time and it hasn't even been close in those games. It's a sign.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I feel like after 100 hours, you get a pretty good idea of what has worked against you either by your own experiencing engaging that character, or watching your teammates play as that character.
Certainly, you'd be at a disadvantage if you ever had to play as that character, but on a moment to moment fighting basis, I think it's fine.
onepiecefan
Member
Damn it, I thought I may actually break master today but ended up getting stomped in Eichenwalde in the all important game lol, I accidentally emoted on defense at one point towards the end as well, shit was so embarrassing. It's a terrible accidental emote to do as well, the Zarya pumping iron one, it seems to go on forever.
Nuno Pinto
Member
Will do.
Just keep playing and you'll get there eventually. I avoid playing in the morning because that's when all the bad teammates play lol.
Haha, I'm so glad you saved it. I forgot to.
I get where you're coming from, but I just want her assault rifle to be a bit more effective, not so much with it becoming deadly. Hell, just decreasing the spread would be better than a damage buff. Her mobility is pretty crappy when her hook cable is on cool down, so wouldn't that be enough?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
She also got buffed shortly after.
think the console is on 20tick server, where the pc are 60tick.
so, from time to time you might feel like you getting shot even tho you're in cover or thought you used an escape ability but in their screen you didn't.
also the game pacing is slower than pc for console. its still not bad tho. people should just try out the free weekend and see if it's your cup of tea or not. try pc and console if you can.
Shouta
Member
Nah, he should stay at 20. The game currently doesn't value his overall skill set being diverse, only his damage. So with him as he is currently, he has his niche within the attacker list as the major damage dealer at mid-range. McCree still does the damage dealing job amazingly well so the real difference is whether you need the crowd control and flank protection from McCree or the push strength and mobility/healing of Soldier.
Besides, Soldier doles out damage in parts rather than single shots. For him to get just a little less damage than McCree, he has to hit 3 of 4 in his burst. He only gets more when he hits all 4. When Soldier was 17 damage per shot. He had to hit all 4 to even be the same with McCree.
I guess I just don't see whats really wrong with Soldier playing second fiddle to McCree. I always saw Soldier as a bastion sort of character. He's there to be an easy to use option to new players. He's got a familiar and mundane moveset that allows them to be effective without being too great at the game. Like bastion, he's great if you're new at the game. But once you start learning the mechanisms of the game, you see that Bastion is an incredibly limited and fragile hero. He still has his place, but there are simply better options available. That's how I think soldier should be. Not bad at all, but if you can aim, then McCree is there to be the better option for you.
For me, the game is less fun when Soldier is this good. He's not an interesting character to interact with because his abilities are so ordinary compared to the fantastical abilities of everyone else. I don't want him to be completely useless or anything, but this buff has made him a must pick because his DPS is just THAT stupid. So I just disagree with the premise that he ought to be as good as McCree in the first place. And if the argument is that characters should be as closely matched as possible, then there are a bunch of characters in the defense catergroy and some in the healer groups that need buffs way more than Soldier does.
First Strike graphic novel cancelled: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20752185714
I was actually hyped for that
I was actually hyped for that
lucebuce12
Member
Finally got back into this game since a month after the game released.
Damn, Ana is so much fun. And I just recently discovered how amazingly fun Pharah is.
Damn, Ana is so much fun. And I just recently discovered how amazingly fun Pharah is.
RecRoulette
Member
First Strike graphic novel cancelled: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20752185714
I was actually hyped for that
What the fuck?
Cancelled because they're adding the story to the game in a single player mode right?
Psychoward
Banned
yeah, pharah stays losing
any mccree, soldier
or bastion
RecRoulette
Member
A lot of console players refuse to look up, ever. So she'll be okay there for some time.
Psychoward
Banned
This is also true however
It pains me that you never played Ana when her sound effects weren't shit.
backflip10019
Member
Has Blizzard announced when the new season will start?
Yup, I was able to take out a Pharmercy combo on my own with buffed Soldier.
I think Pharah needs some goddamn armor.
One week after S2 ends.
So I played Ana last night and you're right, they fucked up her rifle sounds. I hope it's just a bug and not intentional.
Similar threads
- Poll