optimus8936
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This is perfection. The Zenyatta splits are real lol.
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TheLetdown
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Competitive was also added post-release. There's been a lot of focus on that and spectator quality of life changes.
It's not just 1 map and 1 hero, in that respect. They've prioritized things that will keep some legs underneath the game; specifically, they're embracing eSports hard right now.
This is double-edged, here. If Mercy needs constant protection because she doesn't have the tools or proper positioning to mitigate some of that, at what point is playing her more of a liability for the team than anything else? The rest of the healers all have some built-in self protection, whether it's a sleep dart or a speedboost GTFO skill.
I'm down to 1v1 any hero as Zenyatta. That guy is still a machine after the Discord nerf.
And with the massive presence of spike damage in this game, it's not reasonable to expect calling for help when you're getting popped and actually having time for your team to react with that help. Don't get me wrong, I respect a well-played Mercy and I've seen her literally be the make or break in a game.
But I'm not pouring one out for her for getting ganked. She can change her pick just like I have to change off of Winston when Zen/Reaper combo is putting me down before I can be effective.
It's not just 1 map and 1 hero, in that respect. They've prioritized things that will keep some legs underneath the game; specifically, they're embracing eSports hard right now.
This is double-edged, here. If Mercy needs constant protection because she doesn't have the tools or proper positioning to mitigate some of that, at what point is playing her more of a liability for the team than anything else? The rest of the healers all have some built-in self protection, whether it's a sleep dart or a speedboost GTFO skill.
I'm down to 1v1 any hero as Zenyatta. That guy is still a machine after the Discord nerf.
And with the massive presence of spike damage in this game, it's not reasonable to expect calling for help when you're getting popped and actually having time for your team to react with that help. Don't get me wrong, I respect a well-played Mercy and I've seen her literally be the make or break in a game.
But I'm not pouring one out for her for getting ganked. She can change her pick just like I have to change off of Winston when Zen/Reaper combo is putting me down before I can be effective.
Newtype-001
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My friends have started making fun of me cause all i do is OVERWATCH.
One of them said:
"You literally just bang out Overwatch 24/7"
>.>
My first blizzard game and theyve got me in a chockehold. To think i only cared about Overwatch after playing the first open beta
optimus8936
Banned
What's the countdown at right now?
http://pixelondemand.com/amic/
The completion timer seems to fluctuate a bit, but it's still tomorrow.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I made the comparison between when H5 had been out 5 months and Overwatch now, I didn't do a Halo 5 now vs. Overwatch now, that'd be stupid.
I consider the events to be... not exactly failures, that's not really the right way to put it, I guess, judging by your reaction. More... unsatisfying. They're fun diversions for while they last, but after they go, they're gone. Like, they work to get people to come back for the duration, but they haven't really added anything for the time between events. Halloween is going to be better in that respect, assuming that the coin prices means that you can buy them at your leisure after it wraps, but still.
And I know it's free, but at the same time, part of what we paid for was the promise of free content post-launch. I'm really not even all that put out about it, I just think that it's coming more slowly than I'd really expected before launch, and I'm expressing some disappointment over that.
You know, I'd completely forgotten competitive wasn't in at launch, lol. They do have that going for them!
The e-sports focus could definitely be a reason why things are going so slow, if they want everything as close to launch-ready as possible when they unveil it, but... isn't that kind of what the PTR is for?
I was being facetious with that quote. Now you've made me feel like a right prick. :lol.
EDIT: I know that wasn't your intention though!
I'm not under any illusion that a team can be attentive to a Mercy's needs at all times, or hell, even most of the time. That's fair enough, and it's up to me as the player to work around it. It's more my frustration with failing to so more than anything - even if I am left out to dry at times.
PC community is very healthy and you get put againt pre-made stacks in every single game, QP or Ranked. It's just how games MM works.
TheLetdown
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Ahh, I wasn't singling you out so much as I was talking about that sort of sentiment.
It's used a lot in a non-sarcastic way. You can see it in games. Mercy can be a thankless job, for sure. But a monster one is just that: a monster.
optimus8936
Banned
No
But it's impossible to not get queued against groups sometimes. Otherwise queue times would be suuuuuuper long.
That's really dumb. They need to make a solo Queue or something. I'd rather wait long than get into matches I'm at a disadvantage.
optimus8936
Banned
Well hi Ramirez <_<
I plan on taking your rank points
I plan on taking your rank points
I know, you probably missed my edit. We cool.
A monster one? You mean, a monster job? Because if so, then yes, I agree. Makes it more satisfying when I manage to do well.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
It's not impossible to win as randoms vs groups. Did that just yesterday. Then again i was chosen to be part of some people's placement matches for whatever reason. Got gold elims as mei and lucio.
I hate that this is the expectation that the world now has. Personally, I worry about the oppositetoo much coming too soon.
Sombra is coming soon enough I guess. Anyone want to take a guess at her abilities?
Role: Support
Weapon: Deals decent damage at close ranges, unreliable at long range
Ability 1: EMP Grenade/Mine (Disables/silences enemy abilities for a duration, also disables some HUD effects and adds screen distortion)
Ability 2: Distortion Field (Functions as a smoke grenade)
Ultimate: Honestly, cloaking seems like a terrible ultimate and I can't see them making something so gimmicky be the main reason you use Sombra.
Maybe Sombra can cloak herself for a few seconds to sneak in and eliminate targets, but this would make her an offensive/support hybrid. I only think she is going to be support because she is probably going to have means to silence enemies. It fits in nicely with the 'hacker' archetype.
Role: Support
Weapon: Deals decent damage at close ranges, unreliable at long range
Ability 1: EMP Grenade/Mine (Disables/silences enemy abilities for a duration, also disables some HUD effects and adds screen distortion)
Ability 2: Distortion Field (Functions as a smoke grenade)
Ultimate: Honestly, cloaking seems like a terrible ultimate and I can't see them making something so gimmicky be the main reason you use Sombra.
Maybe Sombra can cloak herself for a few seconds to sneak in and eliminate targets, but this would make her an offensive/support hybrid. I only think she is going to be support because she is probably going to have means to silence enemies. It fits in nicely with the 'hacker' archetype.
Garrett Hawke
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Well they've said their goal is to put something cool out every month, and they've met that so far. June: season 1, July: summer games/Ana, August: Eichenwalde, September: season 2, October: Halloween (and maybe Sombra)
Something like EMP would be too powerful as active ability as those have short CD's.
optimus8936
Banned
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SmackAttack
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Crossed to level 202 the other night and got Possessed Pharah and Witch Mercy in back to back loot boxes! AW YISS. I knew my luck would change. Can't wait to level up like crazy tonight. Think I'll jump back into Comp too.
Sonic Arrow has a cooldown of 20 seconds
Skill that would remove all active abilities, ultimates, HUD, give eye cancer to enemy team players then CD for it would need to be unprecedented long. You are after all talking about active skill that would in most cases be automatic team battle victory and cause team wipe.
Edit: If duration of effect was short it would make it somewhat useless active so duration needs to be noticeable.
MarioHead3
Banned
Something like that would most likely only last a couple seconds and have the range of Biotic Grenade pre-patch.
So it would be borderline useless active ability because it would require basically perfect timing to have any affect in team fight. If it had duration of biotic grenade then it would be OP skill and must have even if radius was sucky.
MarioHead3
Banned
Sounds like it would actually be balanced just fine.
optimus8936
Banned
Taking away abilities seems like it would be a must have ability.
I don't think it would block passives. Genji would still be able to double jump and wall climb. Screen distortion might be a bit too much for the ability, but disabling HUD isn't too bad. Doesn't necessarily mean a team wipe either, as it will probably only block abilities not any standard primary/alternate fire.
Hopefully not, but I think Sombra is going to have a silence ability in some form at least.
In game that revolves around active abilities and ults something like silence, assuming it's decent with radius and duration, is mandatory pick. It affects match so much.
Imagine being able to ult with only another ult being able to counter it? No Mei wall, no bubbles, no defence matrix, no hook. Sombra would single handedly destroy the tank meta lol.
xaosslug
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Role: DPS (similar to Genji/Tracer, high damage, low health)
Weapon: close/mid-range high damage, spray uzi
Ability 1: hacks enemy, causing them to emote - making them 'out of control' for a few seconds
Ability 2: shrapnel grenade
Alt fire: burst shots of like 3-5 bullets at a time
Ultimate: she has infinite amo/doesn't have to reload for 6-8 seconds
yep, I don't guy it, tbh. It gives 1 player way too much control. Peeps would be MAD. LOL
But is it worth dropping for Ana nade? I said she would be support, but like Symmetra she isn't going to replace a healer. So you would have Ana + Lucio + Sombra, and three tanks or two tanks and a DPS. It all depends on how versatile she is.
optimus8936
Banned
Characters who rely on abilities like Rein, Zarya, Roadhog, Tracer, etc. would become useless if we could take away abilities. And those are only a few of the heroes that rely on them. Really, it would be game breaking if it wasn't an ult, and even then, it would still be a little too powerful.
Like, Zarya wouldn't even be played because every Sombra would target her and even Rein to some extent. Them not having shields is capable of winning team fights, and that's too powerful for an average ability, and to some extent, an ult.
Like, Zarya wouldn't even be played because every Sombra would target her and even Rein to some extent. Them not having shields is capable of winning team fights, and that's too powerful for an average ability, and to some extent, an ult.
Well hi Ramirez <_<
I plan on taking your rank points
GG, my team sucked complete ass.
Silence would be so powerful ability that it totally would be worth it to look into 1 healer + Sombra or 3 support builds.
The grenade would have to abide by their shields too. It wouldn't effect anyone Zarya bubbled or behind a Rein shield.
Wyndstryker
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Encountered my first afk bot in the brawl. An Ana that just stood there shooting one direction the whole match. Hiding in easy too since you can't really lose even when people are trying to photobomb.
Which to me would mean zarya and rein just become even more mandatory while
other characters get shafted hard.
50% discord couldn't be used because Zenyatta was subpar in other areas.
Why would someone do that with the brawl and not quick play?
optimus8936
Banned
So you're saying that because she has an OP ability, the rest of her kit should be shit?
That's terrible game design. That's why Zen got buffed in the first place.
What you mean? Also discord is 30%.
MarioHead3
Banned
Back when he had 150 health, discord was a 50% damage increase.
optimus8936
Banned
He's talking about pre buff Zen.
Had some great comp games just now with a team of five and then six, I don't know if anyone besides biscuit is on gaf from the team, but I need more of this and Zarya teammates who enable me to have fun as rein as opposed to solo q where bastions set up by the spawn and I lose hope.
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