backflip10019
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Delete Junkrat. Such an annoying character.
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Flank him, he really doesn't have tools to stop most characters.
optimus8936
Banned
Yeah Junk usually doesn't feel like a problem to me. But maybe that's because I play tanks a lot, and they generally wreck Junkrat. Especially Roadhog and Zarya.
This is why his damage isn't considered good in almost every situation.
He can't do enough to kill a tank, therefore he's feeding ult (or barrier) for them and healers like crazy.
He also shouldn't win a 1v1 against a reaper/mccree/pharah/tracer who gets in on him, making his normal situations awful too.
He can work wonders against characters people don't use, but hey, others can do it better too.
backflip10019
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Yeah he's not hard to kill. It's just every attack he has is a pain in the ass. So annoying getting stuck in traps, killed by his ult, his stupid bullshit mine. Just a nuisance.
Garrett Hawke
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wat
1 direct hit (easy if you are right next to him) + his mine = instadead 200hp char
Incendiary
Banned
Junkrats getting flanked generally don't have reaction time to fix the problem. This holds true in the old 70s as well. Tracer might have a harder time, but reaper is at best a 50-50 matchup at midrange. Tracer I assumed, I don't use her enough to be educated about her.
mccree? Enjoy your flashbang fth, pharah? Good luck hitting her.
Garrett Hawke
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fair enough, it can just be quite frustrating to flank a junkrat as tracer only for them to turn around mid fire, hit you with a shot and then cancel into their mine and you just die.
I'm not that good.
Vault Dweller 111
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xaosslug
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whenever I try to accept da invite you're in a game. #RIP Trains passing in da night T__T
if you're a Junkrat getting flanked then git gud, tbh. Trap + mine = win. ALWAYS put it in the spot peeps are most likely to come up on you.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
Last night my friends and I lost to a team of 6 Meis.
The next game (against different opponents) we picked 6 Meis and won.
Evil has prevailed.
The next game (against different opponents) we picked 6 Meis and won.
Evil has prevailed.
optimus8936
Banned
I find it hard to believe that Roadhog has a higher skill gap than Ana, Hanzo, Zarya, Winston, or Reinhardt. Those characters either take a lot of situational awareness, or insane aim, or both. Yeah Roadhog has a semi high skill gap, but not more than them.
And how the fuck does Junk have a higher skill gap than Zarya, Winston, and Rein?
But whatever, it's saying I'm using two of the hardest heroes, so I'll take it.
Wyndstryker
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No way roadhog should have higher skill gap than ana and hanzo for sure. Even if it's just on a mechanical sense.
TheThinWhiteDuke
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As a Rein, I can't hit "Understood" fast enough when Ana calls out her Ult. I would very much like to splatter some squishies. Please and thank you.
optimus8936
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Well, I'm not saying to cast it out as soon as you tell your team you have it. I'm saying, call it out so your team knows you have it, then wait for a good opportunity.
The Wizard
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Any groups going on ps4?
Head of Vengarl
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My friend and I often duo queue as Ana + Rein. Best combo. So deadly when your Rein knows how to go on the offensive. I've Nanoboosted random Reins and they just sat there with their shields up...
Saucycarpdog
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His trap actually does pretty well against flankers. Especially since his trap can sink into the ground at times, making it hard to spot.
And he can just throw a concussion mine and detonate it if a genji or tracer get in his face. If he doesn't kill them he can at least blow them himself and them away from each other.
Not saying he's unkillable or overpowered, but he does have the tools to at least fight flankers.
AnotherNils
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A happier post for a change, I got the molten core achievement in a game of competitive. I also managed a three game streak in solo queue, though followed by a three game loss. Progress!
TheThinWhiteDuke
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I'm coming up from really (REALLY) bad placement matches, but our D.Va rankings and SR are very similar. I try to always play with 1 or 2 calm, mic-using friends who are there to have fun. It helps a ton. If I'm solo, I instalock D.Va and pray for 4 or 5 people at least listening to chat. You can still grind back up, no need to go all Reaper on us.
optimus8936
Banned
Oh I know. It just baffles me that that guy could look at some of that stuff and say "this makes sense."
A good Junkrat is hard to kill, he can leap away with his concussion and IF you step on his trap, you are dead.
But yeah same rules apply to all back line heroes, you need to find and flank them.
Junkrat does absurd damage on some maps and you are not supposed to show your head so Mccree and soldier are pretty bad against junkrat. And I don't know what's this "tanks are good against junkrat" talk. Only winston threatens him.
But yeah same rules apply to all back line heroes, you need to find and flank them.
Junkrat does absurd damage on some maps and you are not supposed to show your head so Mccree and soldier are pretty bad against junkrat. And I don't know what's this "tanks are good against junkrat" talk. Only winston threatens him.
TheThinWhiteDuke
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Nope, give it to me now. I wish to kill things.
jk obviously, but I am not a Suicide Rein, so I really really love the excuse to start swinging my hammer and make the other team scatter like chickens.
LurkerPrime
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Ehh, even Winston gets shredded pretty quickly. His best chance is getting a barrier down right after landing to get some hopeful splash on Junkrat.
D.va with backup is probably the most reliable. She can shut him down entirely while allies take care of him. Reaper or Pharah are the real counters, though. With high personal risk, they kill him quick enough that he isn't an issue.
Terareflection
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Can you elaborate on that?
He is not designed in a way so that if you get into a 1v1 situation he should win it, he loses against anyone who actually goes out of their way to take on a junkrat. If you win it, your first thought should be "wow he was bad" not "wow I'm good".
I would agree, but if he gets the drop on you, then you're fucked.
optimus8936
Banned
Roadhog: hook on Junk=dead Junk. Even without hook he can still alt fire him to death with ease.
Zarya: Junk=free charge and is easy to beam down
Rein: enough health to survive grenades and hammer him to death
Winston: zippy zappy zoop!
Dva: DM a bunch of grenades then slowly shoot to death.
LurkerPrime
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Oh, Roadhog vs. Junkrat. Of course!
The big problem against better Junkrats is that they'll lay a trap that is either A) immediately triggered by you, or B) in a weird location that you don't anticipate, which leads to them having a huge edge in the skirmish.
The big problem against better Junkrats is that they'll lay a trap that is either A) immediately triggered by you, or B) in a weird location that you don't anticipate, which leads to them having a huge edge in the skirmish.
This is why positioning is so important. You can avoid 90% of "if x or y happens" situations.
optimus8936
Banned
Based on their dialogue together, Junk seems to annoy Roadhog a lot, so I can understand why he wants to beat him up every so often
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Its almost as if map placement, team comp, and individual skill decides class vs class fights instead of rock paper scissors hard counters...
optimus8936
Banned
Well, yeah, but some characters are decided by hard counters. In no world should a Winston be able to deal with a tank, for example.
LurkerPrime
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Well, the impossible finally happened. I got a quintuple kill via McCree's ult, Deadeye. It turns out that mass Hanzos are pretty weak against it.
I'd be shocked if a single Overwatch character liked Junkrat.
Based on their dialogue together, Junk seems to annoy Roadhog a lot, so I can understand why he wants to beat him up every so often
I'd be shocked if a single Overwatch character liked Junkrat.
Man, I just wanna practice McCree in QP and what does the enemy team do? Ana, Hanzo and Widowmaker on Eichenwalde alongside a Junkrat, Zarya and Pharah. Switched to Pharah and took out the snipers, switched to Winston near overtime inside the castle & won, but jesus.
Vault Dweller 111
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What?
optimus8936
Banned
Not sure why you can't practice McCree against this. They had a Pharah, Hanzo, and a Junkrat. Seems like a pretty good place to practice him.
TBH you could practice him against all of those heroes except Widow.
Woah, it's me! Is my chronal accelerator malfunctioning again?
Well I seem to do better with tracking and projectiles than with hitscan, also Eichenwalde on Attack doesn't have a lot of openings or avenues and Zarya and Junkrat at the frontline with the snipers in the back were making it difficult. Specifically it was the Widowmaker that hassled the hardest. Switching to Pharah solved all that though, even had a moment where Widow tried to hookline at me when I had 37 HP and I shot a Rocket as I saw the hook so she landed right into direct rocket and died. Guy on chat said "bitch", lol.
Terareflection
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I was talking about the footies part rather than junkrat loses part. What are fps footsies?
THe_DeiCiDe
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I'm right there with ya. I've had the game for 2 days bout to hit lvl 20. Dunno if that's considered alot for some here, but for me it's a ton of playtime.
oh, footsies is a term that's kind of closer associated with fighting games
"Footsies is oldschool slang for the mid-range ground-based aspect of fighting game strategy. It refers to a situation where both players are outside of combo range and attack each other with long-range, generally safe attacks (pokes). The ultimate goal is to control the flow of the match, bait the opponent into committing errors, and punish everything."
Basically it's the "neutral" or middle ground- junkrat doesn't have you in a corridor trapped, you weren't reaper and flanked him perfectly. Basically a safe 1v1 for both.
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