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Overwatch |OT9| There is no Cow Hero
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Wouldn't be possible without Saebyeolbe though. Takes out Ana, keeps overtime alive and takes out rein.
Cheers
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
True, but he helped SBB get back by delaying overtime as long as he had originally when he was 1 v 6 at the start.
Newtype-001
Member
Np^
I didnt see Stitch getting enough credit he was setting up alot of Runaways plays with his pulse bombs and harassment.
Shake Appeal
Member
I have gone up >400SR solo queuing this season with voice chat turned off. Currently about two wins from Diamond on an eight-game streak.
Most voice comms at this level are not helpful.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
what are you even talking about? did I infer anything about solo queuing, no voice communication, and playing randomly with minimum text?
Nope.
FiveSix4Three
Member
I love getting shit on by randoms on comms when I play soldier for not killing pharah.
They just don't get it. People need to get that mindset out of their heads. A good pharah doesn't just sit out and let you pick them off.
But that's cool guys. Just keep on bitching while picking junkrat and Symmetra on dorado attack.
Fuck my comp ow life. /endrant
They just don't get it. People need to get that mindset out of their heads. A good pharah doesn't just sit out and let you pick them off.
But that's cool guys. Just keep on bitching while picking junkrat and Symmetra on dorado attack.
Fuck my comp ow life. /endrant
CybernatonEvolution
Member
What I was trying to say is that a lot of people are reporting that Bronze-Masters have similar bad players and don't differ too much. I don't necessarily disagree with them because I noticed the same thing climbing up ranks, and from footage of plat-diamond players who have similar issues.
Bronze-masters do not differ too much unless you are in a stack and properly communicating. Even if you have really good players (mechanically), they will still make the same mistakes that lower level players do. Heck, watch Overanalyzed and see how bad some plat-diamond players are--the difference between them and silver-gold is very subtle.
In short: yes plat has bad players just as gold, just as silver, just as masters..etc. The issue persists in solo queue with minimum voice comm.
I climbed up 400+SR too solo queuing without using my mic. No it doesn't mean anything because I got screwed up big time in season 1 when I solo queued. My best matches where when I had teammates using voice chat; my best game in season 3 comp was with people using voice comm. We smashed the other team and I got PoTM/gold medals even though I was having insane lag spikes and (practically AFK in round 3 of KoTH).
But yeah I agree about voice comms at lower levels. People either don't respond/join voice chat, or they make bad call outs. A lot of pros and good OW players insist claim that voice comms are essential in getting better and reaching ranks above diamond. Yeah they are right, but it is a two way communication, so.... The best thing to do is find competent friends.
One of the things that tilts me the most in my plat games is bad ult management. So many people waste their ult when we are already down 3 players with no chance of course winning the fight, or we go into a fight with a huge ult advantage but still lose because people die without using them. It's simple stuff that people just ignore
CybernatonEvolution
Member
Yeah especially if it was some CC ult like Grav or earth shatter. They can easily win fights and completely shut down pushes. Repulsive ulting is hard to control LOL; the urge to press Q and get done with it.
On a side note, I remember commentators recently pointing that some top Korean team has bad ult management. I don't remember which one though (probably LW blue).
Cheat Code
Member
That Kaiser play was fucking incredible.
The Runaway vs. Meta Athena finals dream is real.
The Runaway vs. Meta Athena finals dream is real.
I always assume when I ult I'll change the world.
I agree with this.
I typically switch over to Ana when I'm a healer if they have Pharah and ask for a Soldier. Why? If Pharah stands back a bit, Soldier's usefulness against her decays a lot, plus it only take two hits to drop most characters and getting hit once off sets you.
With Ana, I can at least help with it. But I've also had the reverse too, where literally as Ana, I've had soldiers just walk by me getting attacked by Pharah. Games were won and lost by my Ana and Pharah duels several times, because our soldier had zero map awareness. This is not how it should work in a team game.
Another unit to help with it depending on the Map is Zarya, who if they have Pharah and I'm tank, I typically try to get too. Maps with roofs are great for her and it does create a larger radius of danger for her.
Worst is teammates using ults in a won fight or everyone dumping into a grav or earth shatter. Don't need a nanovisor when everyone is cc'd. Such a waste.
FiveSix4Three
Member
Ill be the first to admit I have some dumb ults from time to time.
My biggest problem is watching the killfeed and noticing when teammates get picked off. Straight tunnel vision at times.
Ana and Zen both have responsibility to help with dealing with the Pharah. It's not just a "Soldier 76 should have this by himself" type of issue. Ana should be getting 1-2 shots in on her and she's a priority Discord target.
Or if you're DSPStanky, just wallride up to her as Lucio and 1v1 her xD
Or if you're DSPStanky, just wallride up to her as Lucio and 1v1 her xD
I think it is still bullshit Lucio's alt-fire does not reflect rockets back. It should.
If I time that shit right, Pharah should be eating herself.
CybernatonEvolution
Member
The best thing about Zen players is when you are low on health and you run into them to ask for healing. You spam need healing, you stare at them and notice hey they are busy holding left click LOL. Zen's left click animation is hilarious; it enforces the tunnel vision effect.
When you die just before lucio or zen ults. Or they both ult at the same time reactively to the enemy ults.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
I guess I am trying to understand why you responded to me about that when I didn't make any mention of that at all... And when I refer to upper plat being as bad as mid gold being based off of what I hear, it didn't have to do with those things.
Shake Appeal
Member
This is even more annoying because at these levels the other team will burn like four or five ults to wipe you, so if you just hold yours and die together, you could roll the next two fights. But no.
Doug Heffernan
Member
I have no problem holding onto my ult until the right moment, sometimes waiting a whole match before using it. Sure, I could have gotten off 2-3 ults in that time span but they would have far less of an impact then making sure I've got one ready to go for that crucial push.
FiveSix4Three
Member
I like the simplicity of using genji's ult most.
See that mercy? Check. Time to dine and dash!
See that mercy? Check. Time to dine and dash!
Dead Prince
Banned
i still do it because TF2. lol.
Newtype-001
Member
I was queing for a comp match and it disconnected from server.
Sign back in got 10min ban and like 30sr loss
Went back on playstv video recording and the Q timer didnt even pop to show it was joining.
????
GG blizzard
Sign back in got 10min ban and like 30sr loss
Went back on playstv video recording and the Q timer didnt even pop to show it was joining.
????
GG blizzard
Happened to me. Was queuing with skii and caeser when my computer turned off before the game was even found. Lost 50sr and started a lose streak. Next day solo climbed 300sr though.
Newtype-001
Member
Im like 5-6 wins away from GM right now i dont want disconnects let alone lose streaks X(. I dont mind 1-1 games
We come from the same place. I have dropped in front of many rockets thinking it works....Q_Q
Newtype-001
Member
Aaand im on a lose streak
The blizzard sr loss is bad luck confirmed
The blizzard sr loss is bad luck confirmed
Comp today has been hilariously bad. I've had people throwing/tilting/leaving games in all but one of my matches. Once on the opposing team and 5 times on my team :/
One game on Numbani, I was Rein and our team is constantly shitting on the Hanzo. He's at fault for not switching into hit scan vs Pharah and Winston carrying but I had gold elims as Rein so our other DPS and off tanks were doing nothing. We manage to get it to 3-4 with our Hanzo carrying DPS and we cap the point but our Lucio just says in voice chat "Our Hanzo is throwing so I'm not playing anymore". We literally had to push it around the corner and we win the game lmao.
Everyone at the end is just shouting at each other over the mic lol. What did I do to deserve this?
One game on Numbani, I was Rein and our team is constantly shitting on the Hanzo. He's at fault for not switching into hit scan vs Pharah and Winston carrying but I had gold elims as Rein so our other DPS and off tanks were doing nothing. We manage to get it to 3-4 with our Hanzo carrying DPS and we cap the point but our Lucio just says in voice chat "Our Hanzo is throwing so I'm not playing anymore". We literally had to push it around the corner and we win the game lmao.
Everyone at the end is just shouting at each other over the mic lol. What did I do to deserve this?
FieryBalrog
Member
I only got to see the end of game 4 and all of game 5 for a Runaway vs. Luxury Watch Blue- but GODDAMN what a match that was.
I wanted Runaway to win so I was freaking out when LWB was able to put together that miracle Overtime push from the bridge in Eichenwald all the way to nearly the end.
And then.... Kaiser.
I wanted Runaway to win so I was freaking out when LWB was able to put together that miracle Overtime push from the bridge in Eichenwald all the way to nearly the end.
And then.... Kaiser.
3800s? I'm still low masters sadly. Lost a bunch of SR because support SR bugs even though I went 3-4. Regained it with Tracer/Zarya the other day.
Are you still diamond at least?
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Haven't played in awhile, just curious. Has Junkrat been getting any burn as a barrier destroyer guy? Seems like a needed character in this version of Overwatch. But not sure if it would make up for his other draw backs
Incendiary
Banned
Just played my first placement math and holy shit was it a nail biter. Ended up going 6-3 on Hollywood and pushing the payload from start to finish completely in Overtime. It was something else.
Also their Reinhardt was ridiculously bad to the point that I almost got tilted due to how many lucky kills he was getting. He was literally a charge first, ask questions later Rein and I died a few times due to lucky shots by his charges.
After that match though I feel comfortable in my competitive Tracer. Made their Bastion panic ult right at their spawn while I was the only one anywhere near him. And he didn't kill me with it either. Good times.
I dunno about pros but Junkrat is ferocious against teams running Rein/Orisa in QP. Especially now that he doesn't have to worry about his own explosions.
Also their Reinhardt was ridiculously bad to the point that I almost got tilted due to how many lucky kills he was getting. He was literally a charge first, ask questions later Rein and I died a few times due to lucky shots by his charges.
After that match though I feel comfortable in my competitive Tracer. Made their Bastion panic ult right at their spawn while I was the only one anywhere near him. And he didn't kill me with it either. Good times.
I dunno about pros but Junkrat is ferocious against teams running Rein/Orisa in QP. Especially now that he doesn't have to worry about his own explosions.
Incendiary
Banned
Holy shit that was awesome.
Yeah I'm barely holding on lol.
Who needs a pharah?
Newtype-001
Member
yeah about mid 3800 now was 390X before the disconnect from blizzard
so i tried junkrat on encheinwald bridge just to see how they would counter me. Despite the fact we had no healer, a defense genji and no Rein it was somewhat successful. I direct hit killed a pharah like 4 times and rained hell on the team for the match. Our genji came on voice chat to bash our top 500 players for being horrible too.
Orisa is such a good Zarya charge target. Her spam (because thats all people do with her ) can keep her above 60 charge for most of the match
Orisa is such a good Zarya charge target. Her spam (because thats all people do with her ) can keep her above 60 charge for most of the match
CybernatonEvolution
Member
I am much better at managing my tunnel vision and auto-pilot habits; everything I want to do in matches is happening and I feel more in control of what is happening. All that practice and watching footage (guides, overanalyzed and high level play) is paying off; it is so satisfying.
Also, I just had a decent game with Winston while having 230 ping LOL (too lazy to change servers). I got PoTG and a lot of eliminations. My winrate is 69% and I would like to maintain that even if it means throwing games. I don't know why my winrate with Winston is high; I had a horrible start with him as my first hero to try.
Also, I just had a decent game with Winston while having 230 ping LOL (too lazy to change servers). I got PoTG and a lot of eliminations. My winrate is 69% and I would like to maintain that even if it means throwing games. I don't know why my winrate with Winston is high; I had a horrible start with him as my first hero to try.
Had some amazing matches playing junkrat. He is always fantastic on defence on hanamura but the team I played against had no idea how to counter me.
Also just getting into sombra, she's super useful especially against all the new Orisa players who don't know how to deal with her.
Also just getting into sombra, she's super useful especially against all the new Orisa players who don't know how to deal with her.
Hard to say. Should look at crits. Regular accuracy can get inflated by rein shield or if you have lots of tanks to shoot.
What's with the SR support bug?
TWrecks310
Banned
I'm totally trying this next game on Volskaya.
/gets killed before I even reach the ground
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