eddfromtheriver
Banned
The only thing that matters is that you can start playing on the PS4 first, so what if the rest is being installed in the the background?...
Owners of both consoles: Does Xbone OS makes you prefer it over PS4?
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The only thing that matters is that you can start playing on the PS4 first, so what if the rest is being installed in the the background?...
keltickennedy
Member
I have had a horrible experience with the console and the OS. Everything is badly organized and you can only navigate it quickly using the kinect, that 75% of the time won't hear you properly. Just today for instance...I got an invite from a friend, the notification pops up, hold xbox button to launch, I hold the button and then the controller turns off or if asks me if I wanna turn off the console. Later I had to change the batteries in my controller so I changed them turning the controller off. It asks me if I wanna turn the kinect on (having had it turned off by default) the control powers on but now the system doesn't read the input, so I have to resync it using the kinect, which I can't turn on because I can't select "yes" as the option cause the controller isn't working. So now I have to reset the console entirely and plug the controller in with a USB.
It's so weird how the ps4 and the XB1 has swapped ease of use for me this generation. Though both consoles will evolve through more updates in the future. Just hoping the XB1 get better soon.
My favorite story that had me turn of the kinect off all together was while we were watching netflix the two hands kept popping up on the screen for the "grabbing" feature or something. Went to calibrate the kinect to see what was wrong and the kinect thought that our sleeping cat on the couch and a statue on a bookshelf were two different people.
It's so weird how the ps4 and the XB1 has swapped ease of use for me this generation. Though both consoles will evolve through more updates in the future. Just hoping the XB1 get better soon.
My favorite story that had me turn of the kinect off all together was while we were watching netflix the two hands kept popping up on the screen for the "grabbing" feature or something. Went to calibrate the kinect to see what was wrong and the kinect thought that our sleeping cat on the couch and a statue on a bookshelf were two different people.
You are totally missing the point im trying to make.
I'm not arguing which system is better or has the fastest installation.
Im making a case that some people are being mislead into thinking the progress bar on the PS4 dashboard represent the whole game being installed.
Ok and?
Rollo Lawson
Banned
Has too much functionality
However I do like all the functionality
However I do like all the functionality
Haha, yepp, that was very annoying for many people trying to watch a video early on.
When I first got my Xbox One I had problem with that hand-icon appearing when I was taking a sip from whatever I was drinking.
Luckily you can turn off Kinect hand cursor during video playback since march update, so that problem is long gone.
ethomaz
Banned
Mostly retails and digital games.
Well my PS4 boot in 10s... and the game loads in less than that even when first install.
Killzone and InFAMOUS get on game in less than 15s if your are in active StandBy.
PS. I never had to wait install in any retail game I bought... PlayGo is awesome.
ethomaz
Banned
It didn't work if you turn your console off... it is like pause actually.
I just dont trust it. I've had a few bad experiences towards the beginning of it's life that left me with a sour taste.
ethomaz
Banned
PS4 suspend the game while watching Netflix too.
That really matter to most people?
What matter is that a guy put the disk on tray and start to play.
So it is faster.
neogaffer1
Banned
It actually does...
ethomaz
Banned
Nope... I tried... It just work if you use standby.
Or are you talking about any preview update?
outsida
Member
Diablo is the first game I started using this feature in and its pretty good. I've been ignoring it since launch but now I don't think I can go back to not using it.
neogaffer1
Banned
I consider standby mode turning the console off--it's just a mix of sleep and hibernation and Windows 8 even removed true shut down in favor of a hibernation/shut down hybrid. For all intents and purposes, the general consumer will see the console as off. Only a select few who know the difference will turn it all the way off, and even then most people who know wouldn't do that.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
There are only two shutdown states that you can select... energy saver or instant on. Instant-on is the one that allows you to suspend/resume games. This has been on the OS since forever ago.
So if you turn your tv off with your tv remote you are saying "I paused the tv"?
Standby for all intents and purposes is turning the system off, it uses less than 1 watt in that state. You are grasping for straws here to make a feature ps4 has been advertising with and couldn't get to work yet look bad. Please stop....
statham
Member
same. I also quit out of madden 15 and my game is right there the next day. Hope this becomes standard, no longer to hunt for typewriters to end a game for the night.*looks at RE*
ethomaz
Banned
Windows 8 true shutdown.
Hibernation is save all RAM memory on HDD... it takes a hell of time to 8GB... XB1 didn't do that.
Your XB1 is on... just lowered the GPU/CPU activity to use less power... the console is still on... it is called StandBy.
Suspend/Resume will be a really great thing when it hibernate (save on HDD) and do that with more than one game.
My TV turn off... nothing is working... the energy supply is even off.
How you pause a TV?
PS. I won't say how much power XB1 uses in StandBy because it will surprise you... it is not even barely close to 1w.
Son of Sam
Banned
X1 OS and the updates are just too good. Overall it's a better package for me at least.
No it wouldn't be a great thing then, loading from hibernation takes way too long, since you have to load all the data from the hard drive, you can just as well load the game fresh again in that time, because that's exactly what loading a game is on these consoles, moving data from the hard drive into the ram. The feature is already a great thing, and I'm sure you are going to rave on about it when ps4 gets it.
ethomaz said:
You didn't even read what I wrote did you? If you turn your tv off with only the remote control (with the power off button on your remote) do you say it is paused, since it is in standby then or do you say it is off?
regarding power consumption ok, it uses 14 watts if you have a kinect, though I can't find numbers apparently the big part of the 14 watts is the kinect, if you unplug it should be lower than 10 which is basically like 15$ a year (same for ps4)
ethomaz
Banned
That's what I expected from the feature.
If I can give a example... GT5 suspend/resume... that is the only way I could finish over 4 hours races... I played others games at the same time.
PS. It uses ~30w in Instant On... ~15w without Instant On.
Edit - 15w is ~$30 per year for me.
More official proof:
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/system/learn-about-power-modes
just making things up, eh?
Edit: btw. this all doesn't change that suspend/resume is a nice feature, and I still have no idea why you are on a crusade to bash it...
Xbone OS is my LEAST favorite thing about the system ( and I'm a graphics whore, so I'm already slightly leaning toward PS4! )..
The OP mentions the ads in the PS4 activity feed.. but there are fucking ads on the main screen on XBONE!! The back button / breadcrumb thing is neat to think about in theory but the execution sucks and is super annoying in practice.
I will give XBONE credit for the suspend / resume stuff, but besides that, PS4 is superior in every way IMO. Love you GAF!
The OP mentions the ads in the PS4 activity feed.. but there are fucking ads on the main screen on XBONE!! The back button / breadcrumb thing is neat to think about in theory but the execution sucks and is super annoying in practice.
I will give XBONE credit for the suspend / resume stuff, but besides that, PS4 is superior in every way IMO. Love you GAF!
I knew the x1 OS was better then PS4 OS, i keep being reminded every time im at my friends house and assuming it can do the same things! Coolest thing about X1 for me is how it brings up all my settings to my friends console.
Also management of my system via my phone is very handy, its more convenient for non gamers in my family.
Also management of my system via my phone is very handy, its more convenient for non gamers in my family.
Absolutely not. It's dog slow, embarassingly so.
It launched with less features than the 360 had.
It's 'everything is an app that must load' behavior is dumb as hell.
Metro as an interface makes precisely 0 sense on a fucking controller.
I was shocked at how much faster the UI was when I got my PS4, made me realize how accustomed I had become to the sluggish XB1.
I've tried loading an achievement at the end of an mp match and it was still doing its patented XB1 loading circle of doom well after I'd been sitting in the post match lobby for 15+ seconds. Ridiculous.
They can probably patch most/all of my gripes with it (and to its credit, I have no problems with XB1 voice chat, the PS4 still has shitty ambient audio pickup problems), but right now? Absolutely not. PS4 is lightning fast in comparison, smooth and snappy.
It launched with less features than the 360 had.
It's 'everything is an app that must load' behavior is dumb as hell.
Metro as an interface makes precisely 0 sense on a fucking controller.
I was shocked at how much faster the UI was when I got my PS4, made me realize how accustomed I had become to the sluggish XB1.
I've tried loading an achievement at the end of an mp match and it was still doing its patented XB1 loading circle of doom well after I'd been sitting in the post match lobby for 15+ seconds. Ridiculous.
They can probably patch most/all of my gripes with it (and to its credit, I have no problems with XB1 voice chat, the PS4 still has shitty ambient audio pickup problems), but right now? Absolutely not. PS4 is lightning fast in comparison, smooth and snappy.
Super Rookie
Member
Missed the main point about suspend resume
Also putting a disc in tray and waiting for game to install is a one time thing, so it really wont matter to the average joe since once thats done it'll be the same start up time afterwards only with the added benefit of suspend resume (come on Sony still waiting for this!)
True that the Xbox One OS can be a hassle to navigate with pad compared with Kinect (I enjoy using the Kinect and rarely have issues with it) but they will be improving navigation once they start adding more tabs on the home screen like the Friends tab which is coming soon.
Also the ability to launch a game by just saying it is great instead of having to navigate to it, especially if you haven't played it in a while and don't have it pinned.
I have more of an issue checking trophies on PS4 as for some reason it has to keep syncing with the damn server before I can even check them!
Latest update allows you to snap achievements on Xbox One so at least you can continue playing instead of waiting to load.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
The OS is the only reason why I can have a console in my lounge. My PS4 stays in the bedroom.
TV:
- I use smartglass, mostly on my phone to search through TV listings on my Sky box, find a program to watch and change the channel via the Kinect IR blaster.
- There are some lets say, extreme TV hogs in my household. Snapping TV is not 100% ideal, but it at least lets me say "I need to check something on the xbox quickly" and I can do it without being torn to pieces. My nephew happily watches cartoons in snap mode while I mess about on the xbox.
- Boot to TV. There were admittedly some tensions when I moved the XB1 into the front room as the concept of turning on a console and activating a "tv app" to watch TV wasn't exactly intuitive, but the new boot to TV feature eliminated that problem. All the family need to do now is turn on the xbox and everything else turns on and its ready to go.
Gaming:
- Instant resume is extremely useful when it comes to having a console in a lounge. The fact that the Xbox is on every single minute that the television is on means that getting into a game that has been suspended from days ago is a matter of just selecting the game from the recently used list and I'm straight in the game. I just got Diablo 3 and I can see the benefits of instant resume instantly.
Misc:
- Kinect log in. Automatically being logged in when you walk into the room and automatically having the home screen change depending on who presses the guide button on the controller is cool. Not major, but convenient.
- Gesture/voice control. It isn't 100% and it isn't for every use case, but when you don't have a controller near by and it works, its pretty cool. Yesterday my wife brought in dinner and we sat down. She wanted to watch friends, but there was no controller or remote around so I voice controlled the xbox from the title screen of a game, to TV, to the channel that we wanted, with nothing but a knife and fork in my hand. It felt good. When it doesn't work it hurts though
I'm not the gamer I used to be. I used to have the time to sit down in my room and play games all day. All day.
I now have a wife, full time job and a baby coming so a console interface that integrates itself into my life instead of being an isolated experience is much more appealing to me now.
I'm also a tech freak so new toys that do new things are going to excite me more than the so-called "boring" or "safe" route.
TV:
- I use smartglass, mostly on my phone to search through TV listings on my Sky box, find a program to watch and change the channel via the Kinect IR blaster.
- There are some lets say, extreme TV hogs in my household. Snapping TV is not 100% ideal, but it at least lets me say "I need to check something on the xbox quickly" and I can do it without being torn to pieces. My nephew happily watches cartoons in snap mode while I mess about on the xbox.
- Boot to TV. There were admittedly some tensions when I moved the XB1 into the front room as the concept of turning on a console and activating a "tv app" to watch TV wasn't exactly intuitive, but the new boot to TV feature eliminated that problem. All the family need to do now is turn on the xbox and everything else turns on and its ready to go.
Gaming:
- Instant resume is extremely useful when it comes to having a console in a lounge. The fact that the Xbox is on every single minute that the television is on means that getting into a game that has been suspended from days ago is a matter of just selecting the game from the recently used list and I'm straight in the game. I just got Diablo 3 and I can see the benefits of instant resume instantly.
Misc:
- Kinect log in. Automatically being logged in when you walk into the room and automatically having the home screen change depending on who presses the guide button on the controller is cool. Not major, but convenient.
- Gesture/voice control. It isn't 100% and it isn't for every use case, but when you don't have a controller near by and it works, its pretty cool. Yesterday my wife brought in dinner and we sat down. She wanted to watch friends, but there was no controller or remote around so I voice controlled the xbox from the title screen of a game, to TV, to the channel that we wanted, with nothing but a knife and fork in my hand. It felt good. When it doesn't work it hurts though
I'm not the gamer I used to be. I used to have the time to sit down in my room and play games all day. All day.
I now have a wife, full time job and a baby coming so a console interface that integrates itself into my life instead of being an isolated experience is much more appealing to me now.
I'm also a tech freak so new toys that do new things are going to excite me more than the so-called "boring" or "safe" route.
Liferebooted
Banned
Wtf? No way in hell. The Xbox One's OS is worse than PS4, PS3, and Xbox 360s.
Hahahaha
matty2Dfraud
Banned
The OS has a lot to do with it. Playing Diablo 3 right now with tv/netflix snapped and it's amazing imo. I love how active they have been with the frequent and very good updates! XBL, the controller, and lineup have a lot to do with it also. PS4 is an exclusives machine for me this gen... I've been playing Fez and Resogun on it a bit lately and I feel so disconnected from my friends when on it.
Monster Zero
Junior Member
Nothing like playing dead rising 3 while having king of the hill snapped. It's the main reason I'm going with destiny on the X1, snap has spoiled me as far as grinding games go. I've had Warframe dead on me for no reason, destiny beta download was frustrating, and I can't even play dead island because of DDos attacks. It's becoming a chore to hook up my Ps4. I'm so tired of that blue error screen.
I was a late ps3 buyer *right when last of us released* so coming from the 360 the entire generation I was surprised at how minimalist it was, I lived it, the intro previews and all, but the Ps4 interface just feels like a blue jar, with information jammed in. I get so much random shit on my home page and their is no way to adjust it. When I turn on my X1, I have my TV on, and the last 4 games I played right beneath it, and if I want to play differently, I can tell my kinect to do so. I still have games I no longer own/play clogging up my Ps4 bar, if someone knows how to remove this, it would be much appreciated.
It's crazy how just the UI/OS has turned me off from the Ps4, I don't want to buy games for it that I know I need to be connected to the internet to play. When I first got both, I just told myself that all my multiplats would be bought on Ps4, then if it reaches parity, ill get it on the X1, now I'm dismissing the graphic differences simply because I hate messing around with PSN
I was a late ps3 buyer *right when last of us released* so coming from the 360 the entire generation I was surprised at how minimalist it was, I lived it, the intro previews and all, but the Ps4 interface just feels like a blue jar, with information jammed in. I get so much random shit on my home page and their is no way to adjust it. When I turn on my X1, I have my TV on, and the last 4 games I played right beneath it, and if I want to play differently, I can tell my kinect to do so. I still have games I no longer own/play clogging up my Ps4 bar, if someone knows how to remove this, it would be much appreciated.
It's crazy how just the UI/OS has turned me off from the Ps4, I don't want to buy games for it that I know I need to be connected to the internet to play. When I first got both, I just told myself that all my multiplats would be bought on Ps4, then if it reaches parity, ill get it on the X1, now I'm dismissing the graphic differences simply because I hate messing around with PSN
neogaffer1
Banned
Right now it seems the debate separates as either "the OS is slow and bloated, but suspend/resume is cool" or "the OS has a lot of depth and a lot of features. It's so nice to use and suspend/resume is just the cherry on top of the cake."
I fall in to the latter group, mostly because I'm a fan of metro.
I fall in to the latter group, mostly because I'm a fan of metro.
Terbinator
Member
Not to say your grievances are invalid, but a lot of your reasoning is based on something beyond the UI/OS domain, i.e. the PSN being down due to DDoS attacks.
SocksAndShoes
Banned
Got my first extended playing time with the X1 last night, and the OS and controller are by far the 2 biggest positives for the system.
Microsoft is killing on the OS side of things right now, PS has a lot of catching up to do.
Microsoft is killing on the OS side of things right now, PS has a lot of catching up to do.
Felt the need to single this point out, simply because it's so silly. Why do we care what the OS launched with 10 months ago? The Xbox One sure as hell didn't launch with less features than the 360 launched with. So why make a comparison between the Xbox One at launch and the 360 currently, rather than what would actually make sense... comparing the Xbox One currently with the current 360 OS. Currently, the only features I can readily think of that the 360 has over the One is background audio, and DLNA media browsing. One of those is about to be rectified as well. There's then a whole crapload of stuff the One currently does that the 360 couldn't even begin to dream of. Claiming it's less featured today is basically ridiculous.
Also by that metric, all 3 console launched with less features than the 360 had... the difference is that the other two are still there.
basically this
WordsintheWater
Member
Then I am wrong and admit defeat
It should be common knowledge though, was talked about a whole bunch before the console came out.
Just want to say that this feature is a godsend for D3. Instead of leaving a game and having to reclear areas because I was in the middle of a quest and didn't have time to finish, I can simply turn off the Xbox and later hop back in with my progress/town portal intact.
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