PCGaf: 2 years after launch, who doesn't have neither ps4 nor xb1 still?
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hotnheavyload
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I don't have any new consoles. I am currently 'backlogGAF'.
Currently playing Shadow of the Colossus, Shovel Knight and Alan Wake. Lucky me
Currently playing Shadow of the Colossus, Shovel Knight and Alan Wake. Lucky me
Haha
Only in hardware, and that's only if you buy the hardware. Some people's PC's don't even stand up to the new consoles.
Games wise it's subjective. I can't play the Forza games (especially Horizon) on PC so it doesn't matter how good my gaming rig is hardware wise. I actually have a GTX 980 coming in today, can't wait...but I still won't be able to play Horizon 2 on my rig.
Conoles remind me of cars with an automatic transmission. Everything is pre-programmed, all you have to do is turn it on and go - great for people who don't care about tweaking for performance.
PCs on the other hand: A fucking fully customizable Le Mans road beast.
On the other hand. My road beast is getting to expensive to maintain, so I think, I'll give my manual trans a break, and get an Xbox/Escort or a PlayStation/Prius
Boss Man
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I bought a PS4 at launch and just recently sold it and built my first gaming PC.
The Wii U is great for local co-op and chill couch gaming.
PS4 and XB1 just feel like gaming PCs from halfway through last gen with a ton of restrictions (awful media playback compared to last gen, no BC, pay for multiplayer). I feel like I made a mistake waiting for PS4 and should have just made the switch last gen.
The Wii U is great for local co-op and chill couch gaming.
PS4 and XB1 just feel like gaming PCs from halfway through last gen with a ton of restrictions (awful media playback compared to last gen, no BC, pay for multiplayer). I feel like I made a mistake waiting for PS4 and should have just made the switch last gen.
derExperte
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And what if I miss a bunch of games? You know, you don't have to play everything worth playing. Because you can't anyway even with unlimited time. And despite what the hype-machine tries to tell us it's perfectly fine to miss some of the latest blockbusters, some people can actually lead happy lives without GTA (I got V on PS3, decided pretty quickly to wait for PC and ignored the PS4 version).
You don't have to tweak the settings on pc.
You have the option to do it, but most of the times it takes only a few seconds changing the resolution and switching the settings to your strength of your pc.
Consoles have preset settings which are comparable with low/medium settings (and most often they use special settings to at least run the games which are not even presented on the pc version because they're so bad).
Also, why should a PC break suddenly? It's normally not happening if you're not the causing the trouble.
Of course you can break it in various ways but you can also break your console (if you act not carefully) too.
Just stop cooling your hardware with cola and STOP downloading all the free games from a weird site.
That should help.
REMAINSILLY
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I don't plan on buying a PS4 or One. If I was to get any console, it'd be a Wii U.
This has nothing to do with HAVING TO TWEAK something, I don't have to do anything! It's about the options, which is my point - not that many tweakable options on consoles. Not much room for software mods either, but sometimes It's nice to get a game and not tweak on it for hours...I like it, but not all the time - ya feel me?
flyinpiranha
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I too made tons of money with very little time by just going to that website. $5000/week stay at home mom!
Projectjustice
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It's pretty surprising to read so many Wii U and PC owners on gaf when a year ago it was nothing but hate for the console around here. Nintendo really turned it around.
SkeptiMism
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I feel like you missed my point completely. I didn't explain myself very clearly though so it's my bad, I apologize for that.
Yes, obviously, unless you get every system out there, you have limitations to what you are able to play in the first place. But the thing is that even if you get every system out there, in practice you still can't play every game. You miss out on things because you simply can not have enough time to play everything. If you choose to get all the consoles besides PC, you must choose what you play and whenever you choose to play something, at the same time you also make the counter choice (what all things you do not play at the moment). Play that JRPG that lasts 40-100 hours? That's 40-100 hours gone from playing something else.
This obviously applies to simply PC too. Pretty much every PC gamer has a backlog as it is (games they've bought or games they haven't yet bought but would want to buy if they had the time to play them). Every time they play something, another game's turn gets delayed.
Naturally, a single console owner (even a Wii U owner) can have a backlog too.
So yes, you miss out on games either way. Doesn't matter if you buy all the systems out there. Everybody has to prioritize in some way what games they play.
Also, your logic kind of implies you buy every system out there. Do you have all the three current gen home consoles and a capable gaming PC? Do also have a 3DS and Vita? Do you have all the mobile systems (despite the popular image, they get plenty of good games too)?
"Missing the best what might come" is very subjective anyway. Personally, generally speaking, I don't really wait for anything that much. Of course, I hope some things come to PC (such as some Sega's games) and I might even make an enthusiastic and hopeful post about it every now and then, but it's not like I cry myself to sleep if I'll never get those games on PC. I just play my games and if those few games never come, then it's not really a big loss.
It's also very subjective, obviously, what one considers as the best.
That's quite a simplification of what PCs are. They're not just, or even primarily, gaming machines. They're general usage computing systems that are open by their very nature. You can do practically anything computing related with PCs.
It can be simple things such as playing a game on one screen and reading gaf on another and then every now and then writing a long post on gaf (with a keyboard, i.e. with speed and comfort that's not possible on a controller), or it can be something like downloading and installing a mod to a game, or it can be doing a mod to a game yourself. And of course, you can play games that you just can't play with a controller.
Or then it can be something completely not related to gaming, such as writing an essay for school, editing a picture or just basic browsing.
This is why PC is, overall, superior to a console. It's simply so much more than a console can ever be. But of course, this doesn't mean that a console doesn't have its own advantages, and it doesn't mean that for someone a console couldn't be the better choice.
I "get" you but you probably don't "get" me.
Hours in tweaking? I don't know what you're doing but normally you spend just a few seconds or minutes and then you're ready to go.
Of course if you want to mod the game that's something different but we're not discussing that (which is TOTALLY optional, some people still don't get it).
If people are not willing to do that and instead buying a locked up weak machine with a few games and many other restrictions that is their choice.
A lot of my friends are actually former mainly console gamers and are also Japanese games fan but they're not stupid and decided to build a pc as their main platform.
For something like Persona (for whatever bad reason they have to not port it on pc) and Bloodborne and a few other Sony exclusives they have a PS4, nothing more, nothing less.
Everything else is on their pc.
Once you accept that Wii U is a system exclusively to play Nintendo games on, it becomes a much easier sell, at least to me.
One of the biggest weaknesses of the system is its anemic hardware, but Nintendo works with that to create games which still perform very well and look decent. And now with the Wii U finally even their IQ is at least bearable.
I still have a PS3, PS4, Wii U, 3DS and Vita in addition to my PC. I still use my Nintendo products and Vita, but the PS systems just sit there. I think I keep them "just in case" but at this point, I should finish off my PS3 backlog and sell it off to be done with it. PS4? I really don't have much internet beyond what JRPGs show up on it that don't come to PC.
Then again, I probably won't play those either. If I could take the time to research a great BR player and pick up a Roku or something for my media needs, I'll probably get rid of it.
Then again, I probably won't play those either. If I could take the time to research a great BR player and pick up a Roku or something for my media needs, I'll probably get rid of it.
This is a gaming forum though. I'm also pretty sure that those of us with gaming PCs, like myself and most in here, already know everything you typed.
Being able to work on 3D renders, write an essay, and go dual/triple-screen doesn't let me play Horizon 2.
Like I said, it's subjective when it comes to gaming and one's own preferences......which is sort of the point here.
There are more highly rated games on PC than there is time to play them.
I dont need hand-holdy, on rails console cookie cutter experience #3,244 to enjoy gaming.
PC has me covered with the most expansive library on the planet, and the most comprehensive one too.
You won't catch em shedding a tear becaus eI haven't played Uncharted, lol.
Well, maybe I've shed a tear or two for Red Dead
But in the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal tha tI missed that title. I was too busy enjoying other stuff anyway.
Maybe if I was out fo a job or 12 years old, I'd have the time for all of these games plus console games... but then I wouldn't have the money to buy them in the first place!
I dont need hand-holdy, on rails console cookie cutter experience #3,244 to enjoy gaming.
PC has me covered with the most expansive library on the planet, and the most comprehensive one too.
You won't catch em shedding a tear becaus eI haven't played Uncharted, lol.
Well, maybe I've shed a tear or two for Red Dead
But in the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal tha tI missed that title. I was too busy enjoying other stuff anyway.Maybe if I was out fo a job or 12 years old, I'd have the time for all of these games plus console games... but then I wouldn't have the money to buy them in the first place!
So much this
The wizardry they do with 3D World, Mario Kart and Captain Toad, and managing solid 60FPS is fantastic.
Nintendo excels at doing more with less, and still giving us that gaming magic of yore.
thekiddfran
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There are more highly rated games on PC than there is time to play them.
I dont need hand-holdy, on rails console cookie cutter experience #3,244 to enjoy gaming.
PC has me covered with the most expansive library on the planet, and the most comprehensive one too.
You won't catch em shedding a tear becaus eI haven't played Uncharted, lol.
Well, maybe I've shed a tear or two for Red Dead
Maybe if I was out fo a job or 12 years old, I'd have the time for all of these games plus console games... but then I wouldn't have the money to buy them in the first place!
What's with the arrogant PC posts in this thread?
I have a high-end gaming PC, a PS4 and a Wii U (also PS3 and handhelds).
But I don't buy multiplatform games (with PC versions) on consoles, I do so on PC, so basically I only buy console exclusives and those multiplatforms games without a PC version for them.
PC is always my first choice due to better performance and graphics.
But I don't buy multiplatform games (with PC versions) on consoles, I do so on PC, so basically I only buy console exclusives and those multiplatforms games without a PC version for them.
PC is always my first choice due to better performance and graphics.
I gotcha too - and no disrespect intended. As this is kinda getting off subject of this thread - I won't retort, but you make an interesting point, nonetheless, Cheers!
petran79
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we see consolisation of western games and computerisation of japanese games
SkeptiMism
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It's a gaming forum yes, but the person might well have meant PC as a whole, not just as a gaming device, since multitasking adds to the experience.
Anyway, in the end, of course indeed it's subjective what / on which system you prefer to play.
For PS4 I only want bloodborn and persona 5 which are not even out yet and from WiiU i want DKCTF and Bayonetta 2. It isn't worth it yet for me to buy any console.
I game mostly on PC and I am in desperate need of a cpu/mb/ram upgrade so that is what i will buy next. If SFV was a PS4 exclusive i would have to buy one so i am really glad that it isn't. Although if the PC release gets delayed i may buy a PS4,
I game mostly on PC and I am in desperate need of a cpu/mb/ram upgrade so that is what i will buy next. If SFV was a PS4 exclusive i would have to buy one so i am really glad that it isn't. Although if the PC release gets delayed i may buy a PS4,
Wait for january charts and see that nobody bought the wiiU this christmas. What you see here is noise produced by the vocal Nintendo minority on GAF.
It is like Bayonetta 2, the game is a flop despite all the noise and recommandations you can read here.
ClaptoVaughn
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I don't own either and probably won't be getting either anytime soon.
There are exclusives on the consoles that interest me but 1) I have more than enough games on PC to play and 2) nowhere near enough time to play them.
If I were able to retire young, you'd damn well bet I'd have every platform plugged into a massive tv, though.
There are exclusives on the consoles that interest me but 1) I have more than enough games on PC to play and 2) nowhere near enough time to play them.
If I were able to retire young, you'd damn well bet I'd have every platform plugged into a massive tv, though.
timetokill
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I don't think it has anything to do with a "vocal Nintendo minority." It's more that GAF is an enthusiast board, and it makes sense that enthusiasts would be more interested in the Wii U than the average person.
I still only have a PS3 and Vita (lost the charger, so I haven't touched it in months).
My college recently removed Ethernet, so the only devices we can hook up to the internet are laptops, cellphones and tablets. We haven't found a way to get any consoles online at our school and this was not an issue before this year. Getting a PS4 now probably isn't the best idea considering.
Edit: On the bright side, it's given us a new appreciation for Steam and mobile gaming.
My college recently removed Ethernet, so the only devices we can hook up to the internet are laptops, cellphones and tablets. We haven't found a way to get any consoles online at our school and this was not an issue before this year. Getting a PS4 now probably isn't the best idea considering.
Edit: On the bright side, it's given us a new appreciation for Steam and mobile gaming.
AgentClassy
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I have a PC xbox 360 and ps3. I recently bought the ps3 a year and a half ago to play exclusives. And it's served it's job well. I have too many games now to buy the one or ps4. I also use both consoles to play HD remakes from last gen. I'm almost ready to retire the Xbox and get a one but it's just too much to spend for me at the moment.
I have a PC, New Nintendo 3DS XL and a Wii U.
I did buy a PS4 at launch...but sold it earlier this year when I realized I had no interest in any exclusives, and any multiplatform game I could get for cheaper with better performance on my PC.
I will be upgrading to a GTX970 as soon as I can. I have 16gb RAM, a 4.0ghz i7 - but it's being held back by the radeon hd6870 I have. Need to get that changed before MGSV comes out!
I did buy a PS4 at launch...but sold it earlier this year when I realized I had no interest in any exclusives, and any multiplatform game I could get for cheaper with better performance on my PC.
I will be upgrading to a GTX970 as soon as I can. I have 16gb RAM, a 4.0ghz i7 - but it's being held back by the radeon hd6870 I have. Need to get that changed before MGSV comes out!
Simple solution.
Connect via WiFi on your laptops, then patch it through to your PS4 consoles. You can also grab a PCI-e WiFi card for your computer and do the same process.
Exactly I chuckle every time someone says "My ps4 has better graphics and I didn't spend a 1k dollars", like... dude, is not about the graphicz.. Is about PC ass PC games like Arma3 or SC2, those can only be designed for a PC, regardless of visuals.
JasonUresti
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Right, the flexibility and depth of the PC as a platform for games, in terms of software and hardware, is what makes it so appealing.
I do agree with the posts in this thread that mention that, for people who grew up playing consoles only, for them "video games" are what is found on and designed for consoles. They can't understand the pull of PC focused titles, not out of arrogance or anything sinister, but just complete lack of familiarity with those types of games.
I'd liken it to someone who is into comic books, but they've only ever read super hero stories. To them, using a combination of words and sequential art to tell stories eternally linked to super hero tales exclusively.
I remember a lot of PC guys saying the same thing about owning a Wii and how gaming PC makes the other consoles redundant.
Boombloxer
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I believe yours is just as wrong, so we can agree to disagree.
Well, maybe I've shed a tear or two for Red Dead
You can only say that because you haven't played it. Just one example of many.
This is tamer than normal. The threads usually go to shit in the end.
Let me clarify. I buy the systems that have games I want, which usually means at least 2. There's almost never been a time in my gaming life where I didn't have at least 2-3 systems from the genesis era onwards. So its probably a different outlook to start with. I had a 360/PS3/DS/PSP/PC last time around.
I have all of them except a XB1, because the only game I really want is SO, probably Cuphead too, but Ryse/Dead Rising/Forza aren't my thing. WiiU holds no interest for me. The Vita gets some use on flights, and I have a Galaxy, iPhone6, iPad, a PS4, a Gaming PC and 2 Gaming laptops.
And fun fact, the popular image IS that mobile games are fun.
So I agree with this, don't get me wrong. Yes, the "best" is subjective, but there's plenty of games that have near universal praise--whether you're interested or not is a different story. I simply don't see the reason to limit yourself to one platform.
If I had to list out some of my favorite games from last generation:
Uncharted 2
God of War 3
Red Dead
Mass Effect 3
AC 2
Borderlands 2
Only half of them are playable on PC. So for my tastes, yea, easy decision.
I think the most immediate PC game I'm thinking about playing would be the Long War mod, but having suffered numerous times at the hands of X-Com in the past, I am leaning against it...
Anyways, I've said my piece, so I'm not going to derail the thread anymore.
It will probably take the combined might of FF XV, Persona 5, Kingdom Hearts 3, and a true price drop (not some temporary sale) to get me to buy a PS4. In the mean time there are still plenty of excellent last-gen games I haven't played/finished, and The Wii U's anemic release schedule actually matches my limited gaming budget and time perfectly.
Sentenza
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Well, you're the one making a pretty broad claim ("One platform is not enough"). Not me.
So I'm not sure what I should be wrong about.
True, interestingly enough that's rarely because of PC gamers and more often than not it's because a certain amount of console-centric people feel this urge to come into a thread that isn't even aimed to them just to challenge the idea that someone could be fine with a platform they don't like/know and not in love with their favorite brand of console.
I'm going to guess you will not accept the idea that not a single one of these titles is something that I keep particularly in consideration and few of them I even openly dislike (ME3, AC2, Borderlands 2).
I would make an exception just for RDR, but then again that's mostly because I have a soft spot for the setting; I've read plenty of not-particularly-warm opinions about how it actually plays.
Mutliplatform games are definitely a minority of what I play on PC, my time this year has been pretty stretched to play stuff Divinity Original Sin, M&MX, Endless Legend, Wasteland 2, Kerbal Space Program, The Talos Principle, Banished, Age of Wonders 3 Lords of Xulima, Legend of Grimrock 2, Wreckfest and now Elite Dangerous. Also a bunch of older stuff like Strife or Kingpin that I've been checking out.
It's probably why I'll always keep my PC around instead of moving on like I've done with my gaming platforms in the past (used to be a big Nintendo fan, then Playstation), nothing out there really offers anything similar to what it does in terms of games. I just can't replace it with anything yet, which is a new thing for me.