toythatkills
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Penny Arcade: the ugly, profitable details about Xbox Live dashboard ads
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If you pay for Hulu plus, you still get ads.
Also, you're fucking insane if you don't think Sony will eventually get in on this. They don't because they're not number one, but if they were? Why wouldn't they? Hell, it could help them get to number one.
Every console will eventually have this crap.
Also, you're fucking insane if you don't think Sony will eventually get in on this. They don't because they're not number one, but if they were? Why wouldn't they? Hell, it could help them get to number one.
Every console will eventually have this crap.
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Neuromancer
Member
Oh, toythatkills. That tag.
AppleBlade
Member
I am a high school teacher at a technology school so I am around a lot of gamers (mostly teenage boys) and I can tell you that they never complain about the ads but they do complain about paying for Gold and the fact that they can't use Netflix if they don't have Gold. Well how do Internet services company give their product away for free . . . with Advertising! Well Microsoft does that and they still want to charge. So in an indirect way I do think that Live's most criticized feature (the fact that it's a pay service) is indeed tied to advertising.
So were the Diablo 3 ads on my 360.
Impression is a view, or better yet a single time an ad gets loaded. If advertisers were to pay per click, advertising would be on a CPC basis rather than a CPM basis.
Fitting tag. Congrats.
Uno Venova
Banned
Oh shit :lol.
That's like the third tag I've seen about being corporate for Microsoft. Too bad speedy lost his.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
You could have had mine for half that...
11 years is thinking short term? Yet their subscriptions continue to increase because of choice. I just laugh everytime I hear someone claim that they are going further away from games. MS has a library of games since 2005. All these games are still of interest to consumers who just bought a 360 today. You all believe most consumers think like you here on the internets and will be quick to claim it is BS why this system continues to sale.
MS doesn't care about exclusives and now it is games or the type of games offered.
toythatkills
Member
I know, man. Defend a business for acting like a business and I get branded forever.
Years of trying to promote indie games made by guys alone in their bedrooms and NOTHING :lol
Wouldn't the hilarious expectations be from the people who expect to pay for online multiplayer?
DownWithTheShip
Member
Raise your hand if you don't pay attention to the ads and navigate quickly to where you're going in the Dashboard and the ads are just a blur?
*raises hand*
If I just sat there and stared at the ads for a while it would bother me, but I don't do that. I don't give a rats ass about the ads that are there. As soon as my xbox is on i'm where I want to be in seconds, which most of the time is right where they start you, with the option to play the game that's already in the system.
*raises hand*
If I just sat there and stared at the ads for a while it would bother me, but I don't do that. I don't give a rats ass about the ads that are there. As soon as my xbox is on i'm where I want to be in seconds, which most of the time is right where they start you, with the option to play the game that's already in the system.
SuperSonic1305
Member
Sure it did.
Speedymanic
Banned
GAT DAMN, XBL is crazy profitable. No surprise they can't afford to buy up so much exclusive content. Sony must be ruing the day they didn't follow this strategy.
350k a day not counting the millions of subs and the money they make from avatar shite. O_O
350k a day not counting the millions of subs and the money they make from avatar shite. O_O
corporate cheerleader
Member
No, I assume most people are pissed off about it because,
A) Ads take up an abnormal amount of space now.
B) Anything that isn't ad related is very small.
C) Dashboard is cluttered with too much ads.
Also, finding anything on the marketplace to download is a mission in itself. For most of this generation I primarily used a PS3 and only played on a 360 off and on but I decided to borrow my mom's 360 so I can play Vesperia, Blue Dragon, and Deathsmiles last month or so and I did not like my time with this new dashboard thing whatsoever. I can definitely understand the complaints. There can be too much of anything you know, and there is definitely too many ads.
The reason Sony didn't charge for PSN is because one the system cost $600 and two it was too open. Gamers were not ready for the PsN of 2006 with a fee and the initial cost. Since Sony doesn't set standards on the open network like MS does with Live it would have been worse on Sony as far as comparisons go.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
A future where Microsoft sells ad space on their 720 game discs. Much like sitting through trailers before getting to a movie, we'll be sitting through commercials for Doritos and Mountain Dew before playing our new game.
AcceptableGhost
Member
XBLIG was a great idea (only reason I re-bought an XBOX really) though I have my doubts the games as they are will carry into next gen (although hopefully for gods sake they have some sort of low barrier initiative).
Also,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfHzO4SzEoc&feature=youtu.be
PS3 boot up sequence, future note for people I guess.
Dead Man Typing
Member
Every time one of these threads come up, and especially after the Metro dashboard launch, I feel guilty to be paying anything for online play.
But when push comes to shove, my friends are on Xbox Live and the games I like to play online are there, too. Every year, when that renewal comes up, I find some reason to track down a cheap voucher.
I like to think that Microsoft is increasing their ad space revenue potential to a point where they can take away the subscription as a megaton announcement one day. But unless people are willing to let their subscriptions expire and not play Halo 4 and CoDBLOPs2 online this year, I don't see it happening any time soon. Maybe next gen.
But when push comes to shove, my friends are on Xbox Live and the games I like to play online are there, too. Every year, when that renewal comes up, I find some reason to track down a cheap voucher.
I like to think that Microsoft is increasing their ad space revenue potential to a point where they can take away the subscription as a megaton announcement one day. But unless people are willing to let their subscriptions expire and not play Halo 4 and CoDBLOPs2 online this year, I don't see it happening any time soon. Maybe next gen.
Shao Kahn Going Shopping
Banned
Like I said, write our names down, and we'll see what happens. Keep track of it, because this is important.
Well that's the brilliant part on their account. They've trapped millions of people in their paid ecosystem. Don't want to pay anymore? Fine, you don't get play with your friends anymore!
You're supposed to be outraged enough that you'll sell your 360, buy a PS3, play worse versions of games on an online system that sucks balls, but then tell anyone that doesn't do that that they're a corporate shill. How long have you been here man? There's a thread like this every other week. You should know this by now!
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Sony already tried that this gen when they sold State Farm insurance ads on loading screens.
MS isn't the only company that pays for timed exclusivity on games. I expect this practice to continue from both Sony and MS next gen.
I can understand not turning on the X360 for lack of games, but for ads? Really. I don't remember the last ad I saw on the X360 and I use it daily. Humans have a great ability to ignore and forget things they don't find interesting. Try using it once in awhile.
Should I also be mad at paying for cable TV and still getting bombarded by ads?
toythatkills
Member
I'm really not joking. It took me days to actually download the file. My internet is capped at 10GB a month but doesn't count between midnight and 8am, so the only time I can download files like that is past midnight. I had to keep pausing it every night to go to bed because it took so damn long. It was absurd.
Well, they have not done it with the ads now or have even implemented them in games. Even if they were to implement them, other companies would do the same.
NullPointer
Member
Neuromancer
Member
Oh yeah that was fucking bullshit too.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
I am much less willing to pay for Xbox Live than I was at the beginning of the generation. Ads and locking apps behind Gold is bullshit.
Speedymanic
Banned
Timed Exclusive DLC isn't something of value? Your money along with the money from ads is used for that exact purpose, to secure timed exclusive or exclusive DLC.
That money is also spent on funding new XBLA titles like Deadlight. Seems silly to ask for more added value at this point. Giving away games or offering a rental service is detrimental to the long term viability of their online marketplace.
Cable TV pays for its shows via advertising. You pay a monthly fee for the service that allows you to watch television. It would be a more apt comparison if you paid for the Microsoft Xbox Live service, game development would be funded by ad money on said service and the resulting games would be free to play.
If you're watching a cable channel, definitely. Cable TV prices are ridiculous.
shira
Member
The search bar is nice finding exactly what you're looking for but obviously it doesn't help people discover new games. What a bullshit answer.
I'm thinking it will look like this but with the game you're playing in the middle instead:
Oh I hope GAF never becomes like this
Do you think this is a good thing?
NullPointer
Member
How in the world are timed exclusives valuable to a customer? The thought of paying a fee for the privilege is stunning.
ephemeral garbage
Member
You have a bandwidth cap and you're fine with the 360 automatically downloading ads in the background.
I'm not saying you should or shouldn't be mad, but in your situation, I definitely would be.
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