NotTheGuyYouKill
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Samaritan will be evil, since Decima has it and it's an 'open' system.
Unless Greer plans to use it to transcend his physical body and become immortal.
He did say "My samaritan..."
Edit: How were the ratings?
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Samaritan will be evil, since Decima has it and it's an 'open' system.
Unless Greer plans to use it to transcend his physical body and become immortal.
He did say "My samaritan..."
Edit: How were the ratings?
Razgriz-Specter
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After about mid season 1 there is almost no episodes you can just jump in at.
Even the rare pure procedural episodes have some kind of serial stinger.
Nah, the bank here had a much larger atrium. More like the one in TDK than the one in S2 which was more "square".
Evil is the easy way to take it but it feels like Samaritan will only have values that Decima will try to program/imprint on it. I doubt this will take fruition soon unless they have a mad good programmer. Remember that Claypool basically tore it's code apart to see if it could fix itself, and it did for a good 30 seconds before it died again. So it'll take a while and even though it doesn't seem like "good" ala the Machine, it'll be an interesting contrast. Remember the Machine is not necessarily "good", since we are talking about an AI that essentially spies on people.
Don't feel bad, I only heard it for a second and even then it might have been my imagination. My hearing is awful though, nearly deaf in my right ear.
Keep in mind it also depends on tv speakers or headphones and so on.
It was a bit painful honestly, hah.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I think the Machine also starts with 'SORRY'. At least, the peeps at the POI Reddit said that.
Leks
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I heard the morse code! Very subtle but I knew it was the Machine communicating with Root.
So, the rest of the third season (and probably the next ones) will be
, right? That sounds confused.
So, the rest of the third season (and probably the next ones) will be
"Machine's agents" vs Control (I'm sure she won't give up, she will find another way to reach the Machine) vs Vigilance vs Decima
http://tvline.com/2014/01/06/person-of-interest-season-3-winter-preview-second-machine/
Article from the day of/before this recent episode. Titled:
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Vigilance. Decima. Control.
All get decimated at the end of Season 3.
Reese goes into beast mode again.
Leks
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Thanks for the info! I hope we'll see Alistair Wesley again, he could be an excellent nemesis for Reese.
Decima decimated.
TeamMachine being by far the smallest group of the 4. Vigilance is hard to decipher, but seems to have solid numbers, Control is pretty much the Government, or at least a definite branch/group. Decima is truly unknown. Is it China, is it a company?
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Private corporation with Chinese backers, I think.
What do you expect? Carter was the love of his life!
... said no one ever. God, he needs to just stop being so emo. He's purposely putting blinders up so he doesn't have to deal.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Yeah no idea where they are going with Reese.
Maybe Jim's contract ran out
Don't even joke about that, man.
Actually I do think Reese had strong feelings for Carter, but, he knew given his life and line of work it was realistically impossible for him to ever pursue anything with Carter.
I think the AV club review comment is spot on, Reese is upset right now because he had blind trust in a machine that was supposed to save people but it couldn't save Carter. As the viewer we know that the machine couldn't actually find Simmons until it was too late, but, Reese just sees it as the machine ignoring Carter.
I think he's more angry at the machine than he is sad at Carter's death.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Yeah, you're probably right. I wonder how the Machine will try to get back in his good graces.
I don't know if I heard it, someone confirm me if consist in very subtle clicks. because if so I heard for some seconds...
There could also be resentment for the Machine being so limited in it's info dump. Either too slow, or just simply not enough information (did her number come up in the 1st episode of the arc or at all?) Angry that his number came up with a little bit more time to prepare, while her's came up right as the attack happened.
It comes back to Carter/Reese dropping their guard once 99.8% of HR was arrested, except for the most obvious personal threat in Simmons. They should have been more careful of their surroundings, and perhaps deep down, that's what's eating away at Reese.
It comes back to Carter/Reese dropping their guard once 99.8% of HR was arrested, except for the most obvious personal threat in Simmons. They should have been more careful of their surroundings, and perhaps deep down, that's what's eating away at Reese.
You could hear it during the shot where the earpiece lies on the phone, and basically for a what must be almost a whole minute after
Root got deafed
Yeah no idea where they are going with Reese.
Maybe Jim's contract ran out
To behonest the show is at a point were it doesn't need Reese.
I can hear some subtle clicks sometimes, I not very reliable i have some hear loss from a Otitis when i was younger, so i'm not sure if I heard it
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I definitely heard it.
When I found out what it was, I was relieved that I don't have hearing loss... yet.
io9 recap's up: http://io9.com/the-machine-speaks-on-the-mid-season-premiere-of-person-1497462439
Raises a good point re: Reese.
Yeah, their point is mainly why I wondered how the machine would react. What if Decima turns Samaritan into something evil, does the machine's will to protect only extend to humanity? What if the machine wants to also "save" Samaritan. I'm curious if the show will build some sort of relationship with the two machines.
This show.
What creeped me out was the machine speaking through Root. It wants to save us. From who? Ourselves? With the ever increasing use of technology in our lives, the machine is truly this omniscient being that believes it is meant to protect us and views us as its subjects. What is the long term goal? Will it build Skynet and obliterate us with T1000's?
What creeped me out was the machine speaking through Root. It wants to save us. From who? Ourselves? With the ever increasing use of technology in our lives, the machine is truly this omniscient being that believes it is meant to protect us and views us as its subjects. What is the long term goal? Will it build Skynet and obliterate us with T1000's?
That line was my favorite, because it's so vague.
Seems normal to assume it meant "from ourselves" but the way Root follows up with "isn't she great?", it makes me think that machine just wants to "save us." Period. Not from specific enemies or circumstances. Just "Save us."
I know. I was hopeful at what Root said after but then I have the POI podcast guys and their theories playing in my head of a pissed off machine.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I think the next episode will focus on bringing Reese back into the fold.
Agreed, I think it's a bit silly to think they would drop Reese from the show. Personally I don't see either Reese or Finch leaving at any point. They've been the glue of the show since the start.
Well, maybe the final season or something.
RangersFan
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no way, the best part of the show is the reese harold relationship.
Wiktor
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No way. Shaw is nice and all, but she can't deliver the brute force Reese can and with everything going to hell it will be needed. Replace John with Shaw in the revenge scenes, it just doesn't work.
Reese is at the core the heart and the fist of the show.
For some of his scenes he felt like he was about to start wearing eyeliner and cutting himself. I have no use for him like that. Caviezel isn't charismatic enough to make it interesting.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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TrumanBurbank
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How cool would it be if in the final season Reese is the big bad?
And Shaw, Root, Finch and Fusco try and stop him.
Haha that will never happen but it would be something different.
Lord_Byron28
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Am I mistaken or is Reese also an admin for the machine? I thought that happened in the S2 finale that him and Root became admins.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Lord_Byron28
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I think it might get addressed next episode based on the preview I saw.
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Watched the episode with my 50 year old mother and she heard the morse code. I think some of you oughta take care of your ears.
Anyway, didn't the admin privileges ran out after 24 hours? Root has this relationship with the machine since the machine choose her as her interface. Doesn't mean she's can say "give me a car" and she gets it. The machine directs her.
Anyway, didn't the admin privileges ran out after 24 hours? Root has this relationship with the machine since the machine choose her as her interface. Doesn't mean she's can say "give me a car" and she gets it. The machine directs her.
Yeah, admin was only for 24 hours, but, control wouldn't know this. Root explained it to her that she wasn't an admin anymore, she was the interface for the machine in the real world.
Jay Shadow
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The triggered admin access that Root and Reese had only lasted 24 hours. Then the machine decided to permanently give it to Root.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I want to see what Reese would do with full permanent admin access.
I actually want to see why The Machine wants to drag John back into the fold instead of giving Finch somebody new. I think the Machine is attached to John, emotionally.
Maybe the Machine was behind Carter's death? The whole HR subplot was a clever maneuver by the Machine to eliminate the greatest threat to its love for John: Carter.
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