Crash Station
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Red Scarlet said:
Heh, light weight. Try 4. Best afternoon I ever spent.
I am NEVER doing that again no matter how addicting it will be in P5
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Heh, light weight. Try 4. Best afternoon I ever spent.
Femmeworth
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P4 took me 80 hours.bon said:
I want to say P4 is overall more engaging than P3.
The dungeons are a lot more varied than Tartarus.
bon said:
All of my playthroughs of Persona 4 clocked in around 90-100 hours, whereas in Persona 3 I would clock in around 120 hours (This isn't including the FES additions, I'm talking only about The Journey). I've actually heard that plenty of people put in shorter times than this. I'm the kind of person who tends to take my time playing it, so depending on your style of play it might not be as long for you. Either way, I can assure you it's not as long as Persona 3.
The story is generally better IMO, but at the same time I kinda felt that the extra emphasis on story compared to P3 kinda hurt the pacing of the game. The introduction period was way too long.
I actually preferred Tartarus over the Midnight Channel, but I tend to be in the minority with this so you may prefer P4's dungeons more.
Red Scarlet
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cosmicblizzard said:
He only said 1-2 hrs a day playing, so I went w/ that. My Daisoujou in Nocturne took about 6.
Crash Station
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Red Scarlet said:
Daaaamn. Okay, I lose. And yeah, I just skimmed through the thread and for some reason didn't look at the post above yours.
Red Scarlet
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Alice in all her incarnations has been a lot too. But I love my little death dealer.
Red Scarlet
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bon said:
The Giant Bomb guys took 99:59. Average folks take 80? My first was ~240 (P3 was 320 though). My 100% replays are about 80.
I liked 4's story better; it's a murder mystery instead of 'creepy end of the world doomsday'.
Each dungeon has its own music and layout. Most floors have random layouts, but some don't. The game structure is much more streamlined. I enjoy both games, but as any proper sequel does, 4 gets some of the kinks out from 3. It has some of its own some people would say, though.
bon said:
Have fun!
I was done at 55 hours my first playthrough, but I didn't do any sidequests or fish, even. Did about half the social links.
A full 100% playthrough took 78 hours, but I had the benefit of it being a second playthrough, and I also had a clear idea of what social links to develop.
A full 100% playthrough took 78 hours, but I had the benefit of it being a second playthrough, and I also had a clear idea of what social links to develop.
Red Scarlet
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I don't think I could do 55 if I tried.
The skills inherited are random, so you start and cancel fusion until you get the set of skills you want.rocK` said:
I actually preferred the bad ending, by the way.
Nanako
Shotgun Kiss
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Red Scarlet said:
I haven't played through on Hard yet, but it seems to me like Persona 4 is made so that you can get by on Normal without spending much time fusing (or possibly even any time at all, though I'd imagine you'd struggle at some points), but I'd imagine it becomes a lot more necessary on Hard. That's a good balance.
Red Scarlet
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rocK` said:
I really wanted a certain set of abilities passed on to him. I like making good personas/demons.
marathonfool
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Wish they would do away with the random persona skill inheritance. Makes no sense if the player knows what skills they want to inherit. Just makes the fusing more time-consuming.
Hopefully they fix it in Persona 5.
Hopefully they fix it in Persona 5.
vicissitudes
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Agreed on random skill inheritance. Also the one change from P3 that I hated was that if you do new game+ your character goes back to level 1. It's actually the only reason I played through P3 twice and P4 once.
Red Scarlet
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Just picking what you want would make it too easy to have godly personas. 
And you can still buy your super personas in ng+, so level 1 really doesn't matter at all in p4.
And you can still buy your super personas in ng+, so level 1 really doesn't matter at all in p4.
This is why I'm torn. It's annoying and dumb to have to go through the hoops to retry the fusion each time, but I also like that there's something to reward people being hardcore enough to go through it. A re-roll button would go a long way to split the difference, I think.Red Scarlet said:Just picking what you want would make it too easy to have godly personas.
Edit: Right on C-Jo.
Red Scarlet
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I just put the ones I'm gonna fuse at the top of the list next to each other, but a re-roll would be cool..until it's accidentally hit then I rage.
What always bummed me was that there was no hold function. I mean, like on a one armed bandit or in blackjack (or some other card game I'm thinking of) where you can hold down one slot for one turn or so. Would've made it a lot more enjoyable for me at least. Like if you have 4 skill slots available for inheritance, why not be able to hold on to one of them & just randomize the othjer three?
Or hell, just let me pick between the ones available
I don't care if it would be too easy. Too hard is boring 
Oh, and deselecting all personas between every retry was tedious.
Or hell, just let me pick between the ones available
I don't care if it would be too easy. Too hard is boring Oh, and deselecting all personas between every retry was tedious.
Red Scarlet
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You don't have to deselect them all each try.
No? Have I been doing it wrong all this time? For example, if I'm not pleased with the skills from a 2 persona fuse, I go out to the list, press O to deselect the second one, and again to get rid of the first one. Then select again & move the cursor up to the one I deselected first. Is that wrong? :S I might be remembering things wrong, Gods knows that happens a lot
For example, if I'm not pleased with the skills from a 2 persona fuse, I go out to the list, press O to deselect the second one, and again to get rid of the first one. Then select again & move the cursor up to the one I deselected first. Is that wrong? :S I might be remembering things wrong, Gods knows that happens a lot
Red Scarlet
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No, that's right. On a triple you can keep the first one selected though.
Oh yeah. Felt pretty darn clunky to me Too many button presses to redo something so simple. Spending 1-2 hours doing something that boils down to chance & a clunky system, ain't what I'd call fun times Something more streamlined & user friendly would be appreciated in a sequel.
Too many button presses to redo something so simple. Spending 1-2 hours doing something that boils down to chance & a clunky system, ain't what I'd call fun times Something more streamlined & user friendly would be appreciated in a sequel.
Red Scarlet
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Play 3, it was worse (after cancelling it would default to the top position Persona, and you could not arrange your persona without removing and rebuying them in order).
SatelliteOfLove
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Reroll button would be godly for all further Megatens.
Awesome awesome game. Just finished little a while ago at 95 hours total. WAY longer than I expected! I managed to max out about 6 social links, but not everyone I planned on. Final party consisted of Main Character at level 85, Chie, Kanji and Teddie around 80-82. Won the game using
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Honestly, I thought the localization was pretty damn good. Other than the inclusion of honorifics, I had no problems with the voice acting. They all had their own charm and the delivery was good overall. My only gripe is the excessive dialogues.. I know it's all part of the immersion and what not, but there were times where I just hit triangle to skip it all. I think I spent about 40 minutes at the most trying to fuse one particular persona.. but god, I never want to hear the Velvet Room music again lol.
Probably won't play it again, at least not for a very long time, but looking forward to P5 if it's ever announced.
Sandalphon, Metatron, Satan, and Loki
Honestly, I thought the localization was pretty damn good. Other than the inclusion of honorifics, I had no problems with the voice acting. They all had their own charm and the delivery was good overall. My only gripe is the excessive dialogues.. I know it's all part of the immersion and what not, but there were times where I just hit triangle to skip it all. I think I spent about 40 minutes at the most trying to fuse one particular persona.. but god, I never want to hear the Velvet Room music again lol.
Probably won't play it again, at least not for a very long time, but looking forward to P5 if it's ever announced.
Red Scarlet
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Did you ever play P3?
Your avatar reminds me I still want to try getting a 100% compendium on Nocturne, but all those 'combo sacrifice' ones and 'upgrade' ones scares me away.
Your avatar reminds me I still want to try getting a 100% compendium on Nocturne, but all those 'combo sacrifice' ones and 'upgrade' ones scares me away.
I AM JOHN!
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Right on.SatelliteOfLove said:
Red Scarlet
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If you are just trying to finish, you are about 66% done, dungeon-wise. If you decide to go for the 'true ending' you are halfway.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Ermac said:
I'd say you're right around the halfway point, but maybe a little before. You've completed half the dungeons (if you go for the True Ending), but the second half of the game has more cutscenes and story events.
Red Scarlet
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Plus it has cool Personas like Alice and Ishtar.
charlequin
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Red Scarlet said:
I was able to do it, so I know you would be fine. :lol
The sacrifice-fusion ones are easy to take care of, they're really not any different from triangle fusions in Persona.
The trick with the upgrade demons is just to get some demon that's levelled up a ton of times and use it as a sacrifice every time. That'll gain most demons enough levels right off the fusion that you just have to level them one or two times to unlock the upgrade.
Red Scarlet
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I mean the ones that I probably won't figure out without reading a guide, like Uriel+Raphael+sacrificing Gabriel to make Michael or whatever. Those I won't figure out on my own.
vicissitudes
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Red Scarlet said:
Die for me!
Red Scarlet
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Morning Star/Megidolaon too. I don't think she can get Morning Star in 4 though..only 3.
vicissitudes
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I'm replaying this game and I've always wondered something: if I'm fusing a persona, is there a way for me to tell whether or not it's already in the compendium? Because I want to get to 100% but I don't want to refuse personas I already have...
WrenchNinja
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You have to check the compendium before you fuse, I believe. No other way.vicissitudes said:
kamikazekoala
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I am now at the part where
we are revisiting the school of P3. The music alone send me way back to the game before... Man, PS3 was very good with the story. P4 is also good, but still, I feel something is missing.. But I'm having fun with the game, so...
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