I have yet to beat a Persona out of anticipation of this. I've gotten probably half way through 3 and 4 before I stopped. I have real attachment issues with these games lol.
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Persona 5 |OT2| Someone must have been helping you go to bed early. Talk!
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Hexxen-Panda
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Yeah, but I wasn't really that interested in strengthening Personas that I already have. I'm more into filling up the Compendium with new ones.
That's fair. It's one way to clear out old personas though, and hastens the pace at which old personas can learn new moves.
Palace 7 is actually irking me a bit and reminding me of some of the issues I've had with the game so far.
Finally, regarding Futaba's perks,
On top of that I'm having more ambush jank here then I did in palace 5. I may take a break for a few days and come back to it to finish the rest, all this stuff all hit at the same time when I was really enjoying the game and I don't want to burn out and have to force myself through.
Ok....so the sign outside the restaurant says I need a membership card, to get inside and get one of five invitations, so I can get into the next area? There's a cutscene implying membership is needed.
Ugh, I don't like where this is going. Hopefully not a ton of backtracking, but ok. Lets go look around. What? I can't find anything anywhere. Let's check the restaurant to see if I missed anything. Wait....so even though I knew about the membership card via the menu outside, and the whole team acknowledged it, I can't trigger the card conversations elsewhere until I go INTO the restaurant and talk to the host? That's really frustrating and makes me wonder why the first cutscene existed at all
Ugh, I don't like where this is going. Hopefully not a ton of backtracking, but ok. Lets go look around. What? I can't find anything anywhere. Let's check the restaurant to see if I missed anything. Wait....so even though I knew about the membership card via the menu outside, and the whole team acknowledged it, I can't trigger the card conversations elsewhere until I go INTO the restaurant and talk to the host? That's really frustrating and makes me wonder why the first cutscene existed at all
Finally, regarding Futaba's perks,
I really wish I could disable her treasure finder and the treasure respawn abilities. When I'm running around the same areas looking for stuff, and fighting the same enemies, those little 10 second cuts where she respawns the palace treasure, or scans the enemy so I know they have a rare item are just grating.
On top of that I'm having more ambush jank here then I did in palace 5. I may take a break for a few days and come back to it to finish the rest, all this stuff all hit at the same time when I was really enjoying the game and I don't want to burn out and have to force myself through.
Frozenprince
Banned
I do miss fusion forecasts. They added a neat dynamic.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
I wish the Fusion Search was as robust as the one in SMT4/4A. That thing is a godsend with all of the options you can adjust
AuthenticM
Member
What should I do with those special personae you find by looting items in palaces? I captured one and it's now in my compendium. Should I keep it or fuse it or what?
Why doesn't the Persona series advertise it's monster hunting mechanic more?
I had done some research for this game and the series before I bought it, and i had no clue it existed. When I realized what I was getting into with Persona 5, I figured it would be a half assed tacked on mechanic in order to make the combat more interesting, but no... It's a full fledged game on its own and has plenty of depth. I feel like the series would explode in popularity if they made that more apparent to people who are new to the series.
I had done some research for this game and the series before I bought it, and i had no clue it existed. When I realized what I was getting into with Persona 5, I figured it would be a half assed tacked on mechanic in order to make the combat more interesting, but no... It's a full fledged game on its own and has plenty of depth. I feel like the series would explode in popularity if they made that more apparent to people who are new to the series.
Frozenprince
Banned
Because this is the first one in twenty years that had the mechanic. In three and four you played a game of chance to get them not negotiate.
Oh ok, my mistake. I figured it was a staple mechanic of the series.
I mean it is though, demon collection and fusion has been a staple to the Shin Megami Tensei series and it's spin offs (Like Persona) since forever.
Frozenprince
Banned
The Pokemon aspect of collecting and having a bunch is a staple but the way you acquire them through the field has changed as the series had progressed.
fuse
Oh, well that's what I was referring too. Sorry, this is my first game in the series.
So yeah, why don't they market that more? I would have bought into it a loooong ass time ago if i knew about all this great stuff haha.
How many personas are in the game anyways? I've read about 200?
You know, it's weird, but I never thought about this before. It is indeed pretty damn weird that not even other Megaten games are ever marketed with a focus on the monster catching mechanic, even in trailers it's only mentioned as just another minor feature instead of it being front and center.
Fans don't help much either, as the side of the games that's pushed the most when people recommend them is by far the social one.
Aaah I get it now, thanks.
Damn, that's a Gameinformer article about a specific broken persona recipe lol, how have times changed.
My PC is not suited for games, so I'm limited right now ;_; Funny thing because the Cold Steel games will be also avaible in PC and it will have more voices, but I will be happy if I can play them in PS3.
Hmm maybe, but it's not as cheaper as in USA or other places, and it would be a used model, so I would prefer to buy it in a store to get full warranty.
Brought my Vita to work but not sure if I want to start up P4G while I still havent finished 5, I fear shit will start to overlap in my head.
Then again I could just start it because I've seen up to Kanji's stuff in the endurance run. Also I forgot to charge my Vita from when I downloaded P4G the other day so I probably don't have much charge anyway lol. Will probably play a bit to see how the port is, while watching the ER I actually thought the stockier models and less than detailed dungeons would translate much better in a handheld.
Then again I could just start it because I've seen up to Kanji's stuff in the endurance run. Also I forgot to charge my Vita from when I downloaded P4G the other day so I probably don't have much charge anyway lol. Will probably play a bit to see how the port is, while watching the ER I actually thought the stockier models and less than detailed dungeons would translate much better in a handheld.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
11/21
This is too much Persona for me to handle.
PANCAKES! PANCAKES WERE HIS DOWNFALL!!!
Don't do it - finish 5 first.
I'm not ashamed of abusing mementos for this reason alone. Let's me play around with the fusion system.
This is me everytime lol.
Man I'm feeling bittersweet about being close to the end. I still have 2 castles left but im like 2 thirds of the way into
October (think I saved 10/21)
It's all about fame.
Persona franchise who is a spin off of the main serie Shin megami tensei was not that popular back then even the main serie Megami Tensei is a niche serie. The proof is that even now people in this thread never ever heard or touched the main serie while the core of gameplay is same (except for social link).
In the contrary you have big IP like Pokemons which is a well established serie, no one would want to fight with Pokemon in Japan until Yokai watch happened. But outside of Japan, Youkai watch didn't became that popular even if you have to catch monsters too.
Persona was niche during playstation and playstation 2 era even with PSP. Only PS Vita brought back P4 from the dead in the west. I don't really understand myself why the west didn't ignored P4 like they did during the past. That's s till a mystery for me.
Anyway, the last thing that Persona serie would want to market is the catching mechanic, the social links is what made that franchise bloom and became a serie separated from Shin Megami Tensei. Yeah, the same similar thing that people hate in new Fire Emblem (marriages) is what made Persona continue to live and be popular. Whatever people say, Persona is the proof that people like this kind of feature.
Otherwise Shin Megami Tensei would've been popular if catching mechanic was a selling point but it isn't.
zelhawks37
Member
Alright time for a nitpick.
Post palace 7 spoilers:
Post palace 7 spoilers:
The way the group reacted when it was revealed ryuji was alive after escaping the palace was beyond silly. Cmon, give the guy an emotional hug or something after saving the whole group!
There isn't, but as someone who was concerned about it too, the skill isn't really too bad. It only activates when you ambush a considerably weaker shadow than you, so I've only used it like 5 times.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
Yeah, that was dumb. That's one scene I absolutely would have rewritten.
No, but I honestly never found it an issue unless you're doing old sections of Mementos. Unless you're significantly overleveled, I suppose.
Giantbomb Endurance Run probably helped, they were already bug back then and they said many times how the ER was the most popular content they did at the time. It was also more marketing (free marketing at that) than Atlus ever spent on a game lol.
mrmickfran
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It's not really what you think. It only works on enemies that are way below your level, basically enemies who would give you little to no XP and money relative to your level and would just waste your time. Time that you would rather spend moving forwards and fighting enemies that actually give you stuff that would make a difference at your level.
I mean there's no point getting into a fight that gives 100XP and 400 yen when you could move forward and fight an enemy that gives you 600XP and 4000 yen.
So unless you are way overleveled for late game fights (like 90+) and want to fight all the enemies for the sake of having something to fight...it's not really an issue.
Lmao this is the best one yet
This is a huge non issue that was blown out of proportion. You have nothing to worry about with regards to that skill.
Yup. In fact its awesome for going back to lower mementos because for some reason you have a request there and you just want to blow through it fast.
Unless you hadnt been getting personas, there is zero chance all of that shit wont be repeats.
Yeah I had the same thing happen with regards to the
restaurant. I ran around for ages trying to get the card before I went inside and the host mentioned it again, which allowed the lost card to be found
lovely ladies
Member
This would be my advice as well. Also after finishing 5, chances are you're not gonna play anything for a week to let things fully sink in anyway.
I kind of trolled you there, my friend. The twist wouldn't have worked as well if you knew it wasn't a bad ending.
Did you spoke to Futaba after the info dump? You can get some extra information about what the rest of the cast did while you were there.
Best plot twist.
Did you spoke to Futaba after the info dump? You can get some extra information about what the rest of the cast did while you were there.
Best plot twist.
Haha don't worry, I realized a bit later.
And yeah she offered a more elaborate explanation which was very appreciated. I loved the whole thing.
chrominance
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In addition to what everyone else has said, it doesn't automatically instakill if you don't want it to. Since it only works on ambushes against underleveled enemies, the easy way to circumvent the instakill is to let the enemy see you first before attacking. I do this all the time in Mementos when I just want to farm money or materials. Protip: watch the button prompt when you're close to an enemy. It'll switch from "Ambush" to "Attack" once the enemy is aware of your presence; press X when it says "Attack" and you'll be fine.
I think? once the level gap is high enough, you might still instakill an enemy even if it's not an ambush, but honestly by that point you're farming enemies 20 levels below you and it's really not worth it anyways. Also, if this actually has happened to me (it's not totally clear to me that it has), it's happened all of twice or three times in 110 hours.
Shouta
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Yeah, you want the skill to make getting through trash quickly. If Ryuji's insta-kill/insta-persona mask skill is kicking in, the enemies are far too low for you to farm. Even then, you can just force a regular encounter like you mentioned if you're looking to get a certain item or persona from that floor through negotiations.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Because Persona aren't 'cute'.
And it doesn't help that the one people always remember is Mara and Satan.
AtomskEater
Member
Anyone found any good wallpapers of the all-out attack art?
Pixie, Jack Frost, Slime and Angel are pretty iconic SMT designs. I'd say more than Satan.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Satan has like a million boobs though.
Anyway point is, there isn't the 'cute' appeal unlike the other Monster collecting series.
Aaronrules380
Member
I'd definitely agree, especially Jack Frost who is essentially the SMT mascot