Man, I'm about to hit 140... On my first playthrough lol.
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Man, I'm about to hit 140... On my first playthrough lol.
OmegaDL50
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I think there is a lot of wasted events in the game especially with the restriction of some Confidants not even showing up at all when they normally would or worse story elements forcing you to pick certain S.Links over others. To the point I felt I had far more free time and flexibility in Persona 4 Golden compared to Persona 5.
Having just finished Persona 5 yesterday, I started up a new game of P4G today putting a few hours into it and there is an immediate difference in how you can proceed through events or choose what to do with your free time.
I think the absolute worst was probably
Having just finished Persona 5 yesterday, I started up a new game of P4G today putting a few hours into it and there is an immediate difference in how you can proceed through events or choose what to do with your free time.
I think the absolute worst was probably
October in P5, worst still being forced to turn yourself in late December skipping any potential Christmas event, and basically going straight to the end sequence except for part in which you are oh so conveniently released from Juvenile Hall the day before Valentine's Day. Just wasting the rest of February which could have been used for last social links instead skipping straight to the part you go home,
just seems like a bit of lost potential here. I don't feel incentivized to start NG+ either,
outside of the Caroline and Justine bonus fight. Certainly not enough to play all the way through a 2nd time at least.
just seems like a bit of lost potential here. I don't feel incentivized to start NG+ either,
outside of the Caroline and Justine bonus fight. Certainly not enough to play all the way through a 2nd time at least.
Well it was the same way in Persona 4. The only reason you had extra time in Persona 4 Golden was because of Marie.
It's a bit egregious in this game. They likely did it like this to force you to use confidant perks like the fortune teller and the maid.
Great article, thanks for posting it!
I think it'd be cool if future games had more "guest" characters in SL/Confidants. Like, how
Futaba is part of Sojiro's Confidant, or how you meet Ann and Ryuji at Leblanc to try to help and inspire him
You can only fuse Alice with Belial and Nebiros.
That's cute haha. Was it like this in 3 and 4 too? I don't remember.
xCaptainCanadax
Member
So I'm a bit of a persona noob but wondering when I should start tackling the first palace? So far ive kinda just been doing social links and reading and its on day 8 now and I'm thinking I should start going in.
Professor Renegade
Banned
Endgame stuff
The final boss is an unfair piece of shit. I only got his second phase down to like a quarter before everyone ran out of sp. And I can't even use my master curries in battle 
The thing with comparing party members is that I'm not sure how useful it is to just compare them at the very end of the game, when that comprises such a small portion of the game. I've finished the 7th dungeon, and I don't have Charge or God's Hand for Ryuji yet, and I just got Concentrate for Ann. That leaves basically the final dungeon/bosses for those abilities.
On the other hand, I found Yusuke more useful than Ryuji as a physical damage dealer for 80% of the game. Ryuji gets Swift Strike, which is nice, but it misses far too much without Sukukaja. Meanwhile, Yusuke gets useful abilities like Rising Slash and Tempest Slash (along with Speed Master).
Similarly, Makoto is better than Morgana at the end of the game, but there's still a very significant period of the game before Makoto gets Marakukaja, and Morgana gets access to better heals earlier (perhaps most notably Mediarama, which I believe he gets 7 levels earlier).
So Yusuke and Morgana being outclassed at the end doesn't void the fact that they're still useful for large portions of the game. Overall I think the party balance is pretty good; every party member is useful at some point in the game.
On the other hand, I found Yusuke more useful than Ryuji as a physical damage dealer for 80% of the game. Ryuji gets Swift Strike, which is nice, but it misses far too much without Sukukaja. Meanwhile, Yusuke gets useful abilities like Rising Slash and Tempest Slash (along with Speed Master).
Similarly, Makoto is better than Morgana at the end of the game, but there's still a very significant period of the game before Makoto gets Marakukaja, and Morgana gets access to better heals earlier (perhaps most notably Mediarama, which I believe he gets 7 levels earlier).
So Yusuke and Morgana being outclassed at the end doesn't void the fact that they're still useful for large portions of the game. Overall I think the party balance is pretty good; every party member is useful at some point in the game.
Dougieflesh
Member
Mishima (End game spoilers?)
calling you his best friend was funny to me. I've hated him from the moment he was introduced and started latching on to the Phantom Thieves.
I tried not to laugh at that part. It was just hilarious though. Even if it was unintentional...probably.
Spinosaurus
Member
Yeh in 4, but she was a group fusion in 3.
I miss 3 persona fusions in 5.
Coffee, Soma, and Carrots are your friends. There are a few other SP items you can use as well that can give up back as much as 50sp back. My optimal setup was
Worked out fairly well.
Endgame stuff
The final boss is an unfair piece of shit. I only got his second phase down to like a quarter before everyone ran out of sp. And I can't even use my master curries in battle
Coffee, Soma, and Carrots are your friends. There are a few other SP items you can use as well that can give up back as much as 50sp back. My optimal setup was
Ryuji, Makoto, Joker, and Haru who was basically doing double duty as damage and item user.
ErzaScarlet77
Neo Member
how hard is the 100% compendium trophy and the fishign trophy?
seems like the crystal personas migth make the compendium hard and the fishing looks hard too
seems like the crystal personas migth make the compendium hard and the fishing looks hard too
chrominance
Member
Crystal personas just take time, I think. I don't have all of them yet myself, but it seems to me that you could probably collect all of them in Mementos, especially if you're in there on a rainy day (or whatever climate it is that spawns more treasure shadows). You'll probably have a harder time fusing the endgame personas unless you have a ton of money and Strength confidant maxed.
Super easy.
100% compendium can be done with having enough money and using a treasure trap in Mementos.
Fishing is super easy too. You can get it with the first rod upgrade too if you lure the guardian closer to you by recasting your line before it takes your bait.
Futaba's and Sojiro's SLs were definitely the highlight for me so far. It really makes no sense why most of the SLs are so isolated from the rest of the world, really ruins the immersion.
A cool thing I'd like to see is to see SLs where the MC isn't a factor. A SL between Ann and Ryuji or Yusuke and Futaba, for example. Morgana/Ryuji/Ann, Futaba/Sojiro, etc, etc. There's definitely a lot of potential if Atlus ever decides to take some risks with the SL system.
All you need for that is money...and time. It takes too much of both. Oh you wanna create this particular persona ? Well you need 4 other personas for this. What you have all but one of them? Well you need 4 more to create that one. Go make that first.
Repeat this several times. I am right before the final boss with 6 million or so and I think it's enough but Sataenal took cost me like 500,000 cause it needed other high end personas. I would suggest you level up to 99 asap so that you atleast wrap up the low level personas by instakilling them with an ambush.
As for fishing. It's piss easy, it has nothing on the fishing trophy in FFXV, fishing in FFXV is like whole game in itself.
Stealth is actually very OP, you can move cover to cover and literally be in front of enemy within their line of sight and they won't notice you. There will be some enemies who you can't get past without fighting but you don't wanna avoid combat too much otherwise you risk being underleveled.
Craft smokescreen. Run through palace in a breeze.
You're supposed to use stealth to start fights with an advantage, not to skip fights.
Still, skipping most fights is definitely possible due to how ridiculously player friendly the stealth system is.
Dougieflesh
Member
How do you get so much money? The most I've had is about 900k.
Well I'm really talking about the areas that don't have cover. Guess I just gotta get good.
I dropped down to safety mode around 3 which gives 3x the money and XP. Don't really care as it was NG+ purely for trophies.
Vyse The Legend
Member
Man, Kawakami is the TRUTH.
I ran the 4th palace in one go, got back, did the massage, ranked up a confidant and put her to do my laundry all in one day. It's crazy how much time she frees up!
I ran the 4th palace in one go, got back, did the massage, ranked up a confidant and put her to do my laundry all in one day. It's crazy how much time she frees up!
MetalGearOnlineK
Member
Just finished my last non story Confidant right at the end of
! Was way easier than Persona 3 or Persona 4. I used a guide for answers but didn't follow a schedule.
The thing that made this easiest was definitely
November
The thing that made this easiest was definitely
Fortune's Rank 7 ability,
which must have saved me a couple of weeks worth of waiting for links to be ready to increase.
which must have saved me a couple of weeks worth of waiting for links to be ready to increase.
klabautermann
Member
I usually just go in day 1 and try to get as far as possible. The sooner it's out of the way, the more stress free free-time for activities you get.
Do you have to pay her to do laundry? I like Kawakami but she is so expensive. Idk if I want to pay more to ask her to do laundry or if its a free perk where I just pay to run the machine
Trojita
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You'll need the main part of the palace done at least 2 or 3 days before the deadline because of plot reasons. Don't wait until the last minute, especially if you aren't sure if you can get through most of the palace in one go.
Spinosaurus
Member
Huh, Triple Down is apparently better than One Shot Kill with Haru for bosses.
broz0rs
Member
This is the first game in a very long time where when I'm at work in the office and I just want to get home so I can play it. I haven't felt like this since FF3 (FF6) when I was still in junior high school. P5 is also the first anime game that I've ever extensively played as well.
Use cheaper abilities, restrain from using heals frequently etc etc. You should have some soma as well, game gives you one right before the fight, plus the SP adhesive.Endgame stuff
The final boss is an unfair piece of shit. I only got his second phase down to like a quarter before everyone ran out of sp. And I can't even use my master curries in battle
Well, they did have to create a whole new engine for P5, specifically to accomodate the kinds of models the game has.
There was a charm with the slightly deformed models, imo.
C
Contica
Unconfirmed Member
For those at 150+ hours, are you enjoying it still? My enjoyment peaked at "omfg this is thr best game ever" around 50-60 hours in, but has steadily declined since then. I hit 100 hours yesterday and the game makes me want to kill myself, it's so god damn tedious.
demosthenes
Member
Was that extra 40-50 hours over the course of like 4-5 days?
Maybe you might want to consider reading instead of listening to voiced dialogue.
Or are you getting stuck in Palaces?