WhiskerFrisker
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"We played a long match, just the two of us." LMFAO
Where is Morgana while MC is getting his mac on?
Where is Morgana while MC is getting his mac on?
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Persona 5 |OT2| Someone must have been helping you go to bed early. Talk!
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chrominance
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Morgana's not allowed in the match room, but it's okay, he can watch the match on the internet.
JediLink
Member
I finished it last night. Game is good but unlike Persona 4 which stayed with me for ages afterwards, all I can think about after this game is how much I liked 4 better. It doesn't help that I'm majorly bummed about only getting halfway through Haru and Futaba's slinks even though I know it's not the game's fault.
Although I like the phantom thieves as a concept more than 4's midnight channel and fairly laughable "murder-mystery", I found 4's story to be much better executed in general. I initially thought 4's story was a step down from 3's but after playing 5, I appreciate the things it did right a lot more.
Also am I the only one (endgame spoilers)
Although I like the phantom thieves as a concept more than 4's midnight channel and fairly laughable "murder-mystery", I found 4's story to be much better executed in general. I initially thought 4's story was a step down from 3's but after playing 5, I appreciate the things it did right a lot more.
Also am I the only one (endgame spoilers)
who was completely duped by Akechi? The game led you to dislike him the whole way through, but since I knew he was going to be a party member later I believed that it was all going to be about how first impressions aren't everything and he's actually a good guy after all. I can only wonder how I would've reacted if I didn't know he was going to be a party member; I wish his face wasn't on the damn splash screen lol.
demosthenes
Member
Think I'm almost done with palace 5, not sure why people are so upset with it.
I'm at the fourth Palace now, and I just can't understand why this game insists on making you waste so much potential free time by making you go to bed early.
The investigations for entering Futaba's Palace is especially guilty of this. There's just no way my character would be too tired to do anything after doing basically nothing but talking for a couple of minutes in a house that's only a stone's throw away from the cafe.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
That's just psychological. Mathematically, Persona 5 gives you more time than P3 and P4.
JadedWriter
Member
Fourth palace done...interesting boss design, wasn't too difficult, but just seemed like a bit of a grind.
Quick question about EXP grinding exploit
Will spoil to be safe but it's nothing related to the story at all.
Will spoil to be safe but it's nothing related to the story at all.
If the reaper is not in despair status, do you have to go back to a rest area and reenter to "reset" his chance of getting despair or can you just stay on the floor and keep ambushing him over and over till he eventually is in despair status?
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I think my order is P5>P3>P4. My problems with P4 are about the core plot and characters. But it's still a perfect 10/10,
NoctisVsStar
Member
It's the Scooby Doo gang, so things are rather cheerful in that game always that's why I hesitate with my ranking of it.
arturo2666
Banned
Prioritize Fortune
Absolutely. There's very little in 4 and especially 3 that I don't think P5 does better. Which characters you like more is always subjective (and even then I'd still personally give it to 5), but aside from that P5 feels like an improvement in practically every facet.
I think P5 is probably the best in the series from an objective standpoint. But nostalgia makes it hard for me to put it above P3 in my personal rankings.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
For me I think it's that P3 and P5 are all about kooky teens doing weird unexplained shit. I didn't need Tartarus explained. There's a special Midnight Hour. I can explore our school as a giant infinite tower during it. It's gloomy. It's mysterious. It's more gripping to me than 99% of RPG stories. The unknown makes it cool.
Persona 5 is the same way. You are kooky kids with a phone app that allows you to explore corrupt asshole adults. I don't need to know why. I don't need a backbone. I just want to explore weird cognitions, while having noodles with my buddies and fishing trips.
I noticed quite a bit of Persona 4 fans missing the more straightfoward storytelling. Not me. Far from it!
I just finished the third palace!
Wait, it's 5am in the morning??
Those palaces are draining. Save point saving is bad. Getting critted it bad. Putting a party-wipe skill called "self-destruct" on shadows is bad.
Anyway, walkthrough says it's time to clean up Mementos now.
(Family says it's time to sleep now though.)
Wait, it's 5am in the morning??
Those palaces are draining. Save point saving is bad. Getting critted it bad. Putting a party-wipe skill called "self-destruct" on shadows is bad.
Anyway, walkthrough says it's time to clean up Mementos now.
(Family says it's time to sleep now though.)
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
That's just palace 3. It's a piece of shit top to bottom and easily the worst palace in the game. The rest are very fair with save points, and length.
I played and beat 3, got to about halfway on 4 and almost beat 5.
my rankings are easily
5>4>3
I didn't stop 4 because I hated it just got distracted, but 4 at least fixed the horrible dungeons to a degree by giving them more theme and flavor instead of a long ass crawl of color swaps.
I haven't even bothered playing Fes because it's just more of the worst part of persona 3 :/
No, but they do become unavailable in the time between securing the route and sending the calling card for some reason.
It made a little more sense in P4 when they were just unavailable completely whenever there was an incomplete dungeon.
NoctisVsStar
Member
That's true, I love P4G and the whole cast but I love the tone of P3 and dark nature of it.
Special shoutouts to swag Yu
Basileus777
Member
Played in the order of P4 > P3 > P5.
Absolutely devoured P4G, beat it 2 times (+1 once in P4 vanilla) and it's one of my abbsolute favorite games of all time... but I liked P5 more. P4 does certain things better (slice of life events, pacing) but P5 thrashes it in pretty much every other category.
Tangentially speaking, but there's this weird double standard in regards to P5's narrative when compared to P4. I've seen people call out P5's narrative for being repetitive/bad, and yet praise P4 for somehow being better, and it always leaves me wondering if we played the same game. P4 is similarly repetitive, with a shockingly shallow "murder mystery" as a narrative thrust that barely gets explored until the endgame.
Not calling anyone out, but yeah.
lovely ladies
Member
Same order I played and 5 is my favorite of the bunch. The improvements made to the dungeons make this one more enjoyable to play. I thought the storyline in 5 was also better, had a great initial setup.
Yeah I feel like overall, P5 is objectively the best game in the series, but the games have a heavy focus in characters and story so I can see why most would still prefer an older game due to those factors.
As far as modern Persona goes, for me it's 5>4>3, but I love all three really.
Yeah I've noticed. 4 is one of my favorite games ever, but I've never really seen it as a particularly good example of storytelling or anything. What it definitely does is have an easy to love cast and an endearing story, so it's really easy to get attached to the game despite its flaws. It's really weird to see P5 get compared to P4 in things it does better and people trying to use the comparison to say the opposite haha.
For the record, I do prefer 5 in every single way. Gameplay, music, characters, story, everything! Kinda crazy since I like 4 so much but it's just that good.
As far as modern Persona goes, for me it's 5>4>3, but I love all three really.
Yeah I've noticed. 4 is one of my favorite games ever, but I've never really seen it as a particularly good example of storytelling or anything. What it definitely does is have an easy to love cast and an endearing story, so it's really easy to get attached to the game despite its flaws. It's really weird to see P5 get compared to P4 in things it does better and people trying to use the comparison to say the opposite haha.
For the record, I do prefer 5 in every single way. Gameplay, music, characters, story, everything! Kinda crazy since I like 4 so much but it's just that good.
I just found it out in dungeon 6 lol, I used to go to a safe room and teleport to the entrance and do it manually every time.
Hey, is there anyway I can get the unlimited lock pick in my new game plus? Like if I just keep the craf tables I need to make it do they carryover or if I make it does it carry over?
Oh, and I prefer 4's characters but I prefer 5's theme. Story wise I'm not sure which I prefer. I do think that (slight spoilerish
Oh, and I prefer 4's characters but I prefer 5's theme. Story wise I'm not sure which I prefer. I do think that (slight spoilerish
its kinda cheesy that if you know the twist to the villain in 4 you can guess the twist villain in 5 as they are very similar characters that would fool you for the same reasons. Hell, they have similar jobs even.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
Ryuji's Japanese voice is 10/10. I always laugh at his lines.
I played the games in order (3->4->5) and this is me as well. I think 3, 4 and 5 are absolutely fantastic games and are all I would recommend to people. But how much I liked each game really just came down with how well the characters and plot resonated with me. Which even still it's sometimes hard for me to decide between 5 and 3. I liked the core plot/premise of 5 more than 3 but 3 has some fantastic characters. And more specifically (just to be safe, some Persona 3 spoilers)
Persona 3 does something that 4 doesn't do and 5 sorta does but not really anything close to what 3 accomplishes. Which is that they manage to make your team mates feel "alive", for the lack of a better word. I just really love how your team mates in SEES all have things going for them during the main story outside of being around the protagonist and devoting time to SEES. I loved that characters were able to build/have relationships with others without the protagonist being involved (Yukari/Mitsuru, Junpei/Chidori, Fuuka/Natsuki, etc.) and I loved that your relationship towards other SEES members starts out as more like co-workers than as friends and that eventually you actually become friends with them as you work together and experience struggles together. Hell it probably wasn't the best gameplay mechanic but I even liked that there were certain nights where characters were just busy with school stuff or club stuff to go into Tartarus; there were just a bunch of instances in 3 where it just builds that these characters have other things going on in their lives and prioritizes them appropriately.
chrominance
Member
None of the items or crafting ingredients carry over to NG+. Enjoy grinding for liquid mercury and red phosphorus!
Only gear you can equip--armor, weapons, accessories--and the confidant gifts/chocolates (which I think become key items) carry over.
About ready to go into dungeon 3. At about 20 something hours.
Let me say right off the bat the game is stylish as hell. Damn, the menu gifs do not do the game justice. I just really hate the fact I can't take any screenies because there are some gorgeous backgrounds at work here.
The whole thief theme is great too and I'm enjoying the more 'mature' setup compared to P4. That was some messed up stuff revealed in the second dungeon.
Kind of like with Persona 4 though I'm not really sure on what to focus on or do with my time. I went straight into getting some kindness up so I could chat with a party member, but I still feel like there isn't going to be time to chat everyone up. I'm hoping to get my social skills up enough to at least finish the Slinks for all the party members (is that even possible, I remember being to get everyone in p4 with the exception of Naoto), and the
, just because those seem kind of funny/messed up.
though is turning out to be a little boring. Plus, it seem like it takes forever to try and establish a bond (if I don't
).
One question, am I going to need to do mementos to find out about
? I was never a fan of Persona's random dungeons. The one solace I see is that it seems like I can save a bunch of these requests and just hit them in one go.
Gah, I need more time.
Let me say right off the bat the game is stylish as hell. Damn, the menu gifs do not do the game justice. I just really hate the fact I can't take any screenies because there are some gorgeous backgrounds at work here.
The whole thief theme is great too and I'm enjoying the more 'mature' setup compared to P4. That was some messed up stuff revealed in the second dungeon.
Kind of like with Persona 4 though I'm not really sure on what to focus on or do with my time. I went straight into getting some kindness up so I could chat with a party member, but I still feel like there isn't going to be time to chat everyone up. I'm hoping to get my social skills up enough to at least finish the Slinks for all the party members (is that even possible, I remember being to get everyone in p4 with the exception of Naoto), and the
doc/teacher
Sojiro
make coffee that is
One question, am I going to need to do mementos to find out about
Morgana
Gah, I need more time.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Oh my god I finished it 95 hours later.
I'm now experiencing that post persona emptiness I get whenever I finish one of these games ;____;
I'm now experiencing that post persona emptiness I get whenever I finish one of these games ;____;
Took me far longer to get aluminum plates. I went into mementos during torrential rain largely by chance and left with more mercury and phosphorus than I really needed.
NoctisVsStar
Member
That's Ignis va aka Light from death note
Dark_castle
Junior Member
I can totally understand people preferring the story or characters of previous games since these aspects are quite subjective, but the gameplay is so much better in 5 that I find it hard some preferred the older ones. Just being able to choose which skill to inherit during fusion makes it way better than the random rng bs in 3 and 4. Now I know 4G fixed this, but we're talking vanilla game.
NoctisVsStar
Member
But most importantly, he's:
Get the F outta here? Really ?!
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
At least P5 crew are legit smart unlike p4. I mean the amount of times they are puzzled about stuff that are clearly obvious like 'who is that person on the midnight channel even though it's as obvious as a brick to your face!' was quite annoying.
Forreal
It's why i'm incredibly excited to replay this game with the Japanese dub. Mamoru Miyano is just... legendary.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Dead End Irony
Member
It's really hard to rank 5 for me. Much harder than I'd anticipated. Prior to finishing the game, I was ready to crown this game as the top Persona and maybe my GOAT. After finishing it, I'm not as sure as I thought I'd be. It really is a stellar game, but it does some unforgivable shit in terms of its soundtrack (I'm especially big on this), social links, and final stretch and it's just hard for me to get over it. I can explain more, but when I finished Persona 4 Golden, I thought, 'Wow what a ride.' When I finished Persona 5, I thought 'Man I hope Persona 5: Golden/Crimson/FES comes out sooner rather than later.' Maybe my expectations were higher after all this time? I almost feel guilty saying that because I appreciate the shit outta this game lol.
As it stands right now, Persona 5 is probably the best Persona game and one of the best RPGs ever made. Scary part is that I know it can be a lot better. I just really hope they're able to put the time into a thorough remaster that fixes some of the game's flaws. Not sure if that'll be possible with Project Re Fantasy though.
As it stands right now, Persona 5 is probably the best Persona game and one of the best RPGs ever made. Scary part is that I know it can be a lot better. I just really hope they're able to put the time into a thorough remaster that fixes some of the game's flaws. Not sure if that'll be possible with Project Re Fantasy though.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
FOR REAL!? I couldn't tell. I have to rewatch Death Note.
cpp_is_king
Member
For NG+, is there any point in using a guide to max all confidants, or is it pretty much automatic? I won't have to waste time raising social stats except a few more points in guts, and I have Kawakami's R10 key item right from the get go, so should it be pretty hard to miss getting R10 for all confidants?
Are there any that I have to do by a certain date or else I miss out permanently?
Also who has the best Romance scene?
Are there any that I have to do by a certain date or else I miss out permanently?
Also who has the best Romance scene?
I imagine those will be fine.
just make sure to read your mishima texts as there is a misable request.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Indeed my friend, Miyano the goat
cpp_is_king
Member
Do you know which one is missable?
TetraGenesis
Member
Would Ailment Boost stack with Despair Boost?