RedAssedApe
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is there a story payoff for mementos or is it just for grinding, collecting persona, etc.?
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It is probably a good idea to at least stay reasonably caught up with it as new sections open.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Lol Lucifer has never been that great bruh, even in previous games. It's all about Yoshitsune
He is more useful as a template for fusion or if you itemize him, not as a Persona
The Good news: You can detain Persona's in Caroline's prison to have them learn skills that erase their weakness.
The Bad news: It takes a couple of days to activate.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
IIRC in P4 Lucifer was also the only way to get victory cry outside of a fusion bonus skill swap day resetting over and over, or the NG+ persona.
But he doesn't have it in P5, which, combined with his 'moreso than not average' stats and few other benefits lowers him a good bit.
But he doesn't have it in P5, which, combined with his 'moreso than not average' stats and few other benefits lowers him a good bit.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Well, it only takes 1 day if you have Strength and the associated arcana of the Persona at 10. Though this is 1 day of "free time"--apparently the days where you can do nothing but save at your room does not count.
Also, sometimes the game gave you some random skills instead. I got Evade Wind for my Arsene using this, lol, though another jailing session gives me Null Ice (already got Null Bless from a previous jailing session)
Wow he doesn't have it? What the hell is the point of him? Who has Victory Cry this time?
And can someone post the link to that guide that lets you max out all Confidants in one playthrough? I'm on NG+ so it should be way easier now but I'd still like it just in case.
Thanks for the guide. About that Persona,
can you only use it at the very end of the game like Orpheus Telos and Izanagi-no-Okami?
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Satanael.
Also, you really don't need that guide in NG+, if anything it will screw you over because in NG+ you get extra points for faster Confidant level ups so even if you follow that guide to a T at some point there will be a major difference in what the guide tells you and the state of your Confidant.
Not to mention the guide doesn't count on your ability to have Kawakami's massage service or Chihaya's affection fortune even if you have them only at 1 (assuming you completed their confidant in your previous playthrough), so you will actually be giving yourself a disadvantage if you follow it.
Satan is best waifu/husbando.
You can fuse it on NG+ as long as your level is high enough / Strength Confidant is maxed.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Fin.
mrmickfran
Member
chrominance
Member
+1, you absolutely do not need a guide for NG+ if you just want to max all confidants, assuming you didn't completely fuck up your social stats the first time around. I entered NG+ with all stats at 5 except Guts, and I worried for a while about whether I'd be able to do all confidants, books and video games in one run or if I'd need a third playthrough. I'm now in early December and all I do is go to the gym and Mementos because I have literally run out of other productive things to do--all books read, all video games played, all confidants maxed, got the baseball and fishing trophies, etc.
Also: I guess I'm going to find out how deep the gym rabbit hole goes. The initial HP/SP gain is really small, even with protein, but as you get better at exercising your gains go up as well.
Confuse trick. Basically (mechanics spoilers only)
certain Mementos request bosses are susceptible to confuse, and have a chance to throw money at you while confused. If you hit them with confuse while having a high luck persona equipped, you can rake in the cash without doing much of anything at all.
Marmaladefire
Member
Throwing confuse at bosses (and some high level enemies?)
Elaugaufein
Member
She has certain days she follows you in certain locations after the 2nd Palace. Its easy to miss if you mostly quick travel like a sane person and don't wander around aimlessly unless you happen to be doing something in the area she follows you in , on a day she follows you.
And fin.
Achieved my goal of maxing all stats, confidants, and turning Arsene into The Almighty.
All in all, a very good first playthrough. I'll probably put this aside and come back to it later to check out whatever is new in NG+ and trophies. Maybe I'll write some thoughts later, but the game's definitely somewhere between 9/10 and 10/10 for me. Good stuff.
Now for the big question... Persona 6 when? Preferably with a female protagonist this time.
Achieved my goal of maxing all stats, confidants, and turning Arsene into The Almighty.
All in all, a very good first playthrough. I'll probably put this aside and come back to it later to check out whatever is new in NG+ and trophies. Maybe I'll write some thoughts later, but the game's definitely somewhere between 9/10 and 10/10 for me. Good stuff.
Now for the big question... Persona 6 when? Preferably with a female protagonist this time.
Marmaladefire
Member
Well, and having all of the ultimate Personas at your disposal
The Whims of Fate is an underrated track, seriously. It even fulfills Duckroll's Lady Gaga wish by sounding like her song "Disco Heaven".
What were you expecting?
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Which of the Confidants automatically rank up every time you hang out with them?
I know
do, but does anyone else?
I know
Mishima and Yoshida
Elaugaufein
Member
Some SMT / Persona games give certain persona bonus stat points in those games Lucifer tends to get an utterly unfair amount, in P5 all persona of the same level have the same stat total and since the game tends to stick to fairly balanced stats , high level persona aren't great unless they have unique skills or good resistances.
It is a bit odd to see Lucifer with no resistances and a weakness though since he often resists everything and has a hidden ability that halves all damage too.
He's pretty disappointing in this , though I imagine he still gets Morning Star which is nice but it's probably really hard to have the Mag and Agi to make or good.
Well before it let you
fuse Orpheus Telos and Izanagi-no-Okami so at first I thought it'd be the same with Satanael.
Elaugaufein
Member
Strength also automatically ranks up and doesn't require time since it's request based but that's it. Though some links don't require many hangouts if you carry matching arcana and pick the best responses especially once you get the Affinity Reading which can almost eliminate hangouts if you're careful.
Satanael
Orpheus Telos and Izanagi-no-Okami were both from beating the game and getting the True Endings.
Edit: My bad, apparently Orpheus Telos was S Links.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Dang. I'm in the home stretch, and I'm in panic mode trying to max out as many leftover confidants as possible.
High level Persona stats were overly balanced in Persona 3 /Persona 4 as well. But yeah, his resistances sucking in P5 is a bummer (he picks Absorb Phys at level 99...lol), but on the bright side, he's still ridiculously strong offensively, and Spell Master should mitigate Morning Star's expensive cost. The main thing is sacrificing Persona's to boost his level.
Final dungeon question:
Is there really only one safe room? I had been looking forever since I had trouble getting to it, and finally found it.
I did the "How's our progress?" and Morgana said we were halfway. If this safe room really was halfway, then maybe it is a fairly short dungeon.
Totally called it that the answer would be Mementos when they saw people's minds weren't changing about Shido.
I did the "How's our progress?" and Morgana said we were halfway. If this safe room really was halfway, then maybe it is a fairly short dungeon.
Totally called it that the answer would be Mementos when they saw people's minds weren't changing about Shido.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
I wish they had brought back fusion spells in P5.
I don't know why they never touched them again after P3 they were such an awesome idea!
I don't know why they never touched them again after P3 they were such an awesome idea!
Anyone who uses Charge just gets a big smile out of me.
Devilgunman
Member
Those puzzles are what make the last palace the worst. You thought the first time is bad, wait until you have to do it 3 more times and everytime the place get significantly bigger. What a fcking pain in the ass.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Is Whims of Fate not popular? I've had it on repeat since I first heard it.
The only thing that really bugs me about it is that
it doesn't really have anything to do with Sae herself, but that was kind of a problem with the Palace as a whole. I only just finished that Palace, though, so maybe more information will come to light that makes sense of it.
Juliano2016
Member
What confessionary mechanic?
brianmcdoogle
Member
Mementos stationary spoiler.
how are you supposed to defeat the reaper legitimately? All my damage did nothing to him, and one attack from him trained everyone to have health.
Juliano2016
Member
I'm assuming you can use them from the beginning irrespective of them being much higher lvl than you?
That does seem OP. I'll probably buy only Izanagi and Kaguya because they are lower lvl, I don't want to break the game on the first run.
Kaguya is probably the most broken of the lot. Between Shining Arrows as one of the best light attacks in the entire game, and her Mediarama + Divine Grace, and her Repel Physical... Yeah.
Buffs and debuffs go a long way and he doesn't have a lot of health, really. Even each party member doing a paltry 40-50 damage will wear him down. If you want, attack items that do a static amount of damage can speed things up. Just make sure you have something to negate BS insta-kill light/dark attacks.
I also found that if you try to be smart with makarakarn he just goes into a simple pattern of concentrate, megidolaon. It's survivable, and an easy way to make him super predictable, but if you're struggling as-is... well, don't try that.
I also found that if you try to be smart with makarakarn he just goes into a simple pattern of concentrate, megidolaon. It's survivable, and an easy way to make him super predictable, but if you're struggling as-is... well, don't try that.
Necro900
Member
I've just got new headphones, and I've decided to give a listen to the soundtrack bundled with the take your heart edition for the first time and.. WOW. A whole new world opened to me! Those bass lines are monumental, to say the least. Groovy and tasty as fuck. And the strings sections? Man, the strings.
I don't have a dedicated audio solution for the TV, so I now realize how much I was missing by only appreciating the OST while gaming.
My only complaint now is that there should be MOAR OF THISSS
I don't have a dedicated audio solution for the TV, so I now realize how much I was missing by only appreciating the OST while gaming.
My only complaint now is that there should be MOAR OF THISSS
This is my first Persona game proper (I dabbled in P4G but was too in to Destiny to get in to it properly) and WOW - what an experience. This reminds me of when I first tried Bloodborne (my first Souls-esque game). I feel like this has opened up a completely new gaming experience and I'm addicted to it. The characters, the setting, the OST, its so stylish! This makes turn-based battles cool again!
Bit overwhelmed by the length and by the prospect of maxing out stats and social links though. I feel like I'm not using my time as cleverly as possible and that I'll be punished for it later.
Currently 37 hours in, sent the calling card in Palace 3.
I'm glad I got my other games out of the way before playing this so I can focus solely on P5 until Destiny 2 now.
Bit overwhelmed by the length and by the prospect of maxing out stats and social links though. I feel like I'm not using my time as cleverly as possible and that I'll be punished for it later.
Currently 37 hours in, sent the calling card in Palace 3.
I'm glad I got my other games out of the way before playing this so I can focus solely on P5 until Destiny 2 now.
