Yeah. I actually think she sounds endearing during certain scenes.
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Yeah. I actually think she sounds endearing during certain scenes.
Yep. I'd say the same for the old Chie.
Edit: And all this P3 talk lately has me wanting to play P3 again. Hhhnnnggg.
buddha0991
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Boomaloom.
I'm not usually one to dismiss someone else's art - particularly when it outshines anything I'd be able to produce, but that just looks wrong!
Let me make amends, however!
You're welcome too!
She definitely wasn't bad in some scenes. It's just a shame her battle voice was monotonous at times.
Young Magus
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It was pretty bad, I'll be honest.
You joke, but I would've be surprised if Schreier knows and is just sitting on the info.
I think it will be on just one platform. Building it on two (PS3 and Vita or PS3 and PS4) would be essentially like building two separate games.
If you're right, then it's pretty much 100% it's gonna be PS3, no way they'll go full blown next gen.
I'm ok with this.
CrazyTank940
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Game Development Does Not Work This Way.
Yes It Does.
Why Are We Using Capitals At The Start Of Each Word.
PS3, PS4 and Vita all use completely different architectures which would require different versions of the engine, and completely different capabilities, which would require different assets.
You're substantiating this with nothing but your opinion.
Eh? Which part?
Thems be facts, chum.
PS3 is Cell. Vita is whatever (Not Cell though!), and PS4 is next gen.
This, of course, explains how games like Lone Survivor and Limbo can be easily ported from platform to platform.
It is truly baffling how flash-level games can be re-written so easily.
Just as an example of this, I know for a fact that Thomas Was Alone was re-written from the ground up for Vita.
Persona 5 will not be Limbo, and will not be Lone Survivor.
It depends on what the programmer intended to begin with. They don't "magically" make new versions of the engine just to port over to another console. If the engine or middleware was designed for portability in mind, then it's trivial (or at least, rather easy) from the programmer's point of view. It certainly does not require completely different assists.
(Or to paraphrase what Justine said in chat: Open source engines, how do they fucking work their magic!?)
Exactly. They have most likely customized their own middleware or something. I'm pretty sure Atlus licensed PhyreEngine, so if they're building Persona 5 on that then it's a completely non-issue to port between PS3, PS4 or Vita.
PS3 having a cell processor, and PS4 not having one already causes a huge difference between the devices.
It's 100% correct. People are just deluded and like to argue with me.
There are a ton of games that prove that Vita can't handle straight ports of PS3 games, and it's common sense why PS3 can't handle straight ports of PS4 games.
Fortunately, the inner knowledge that I am right is enough.
If you think open source means 'runs on any platform' then you are mistaken.
Are you telling me Knack won't be on the PS3?
That's because code made to run on the PS3 can't run. The whole point of the compiling process is to translate your programming code to machine code. Machine code can only run on the machine it is intended to.
That process, however, is not done by a human.
It's true that they have different architectures, but in today's era no company does extensive low level programming for one architecture. It'd be incredibly fucking stupid, and it limits your options.
Exactly, Ref gets it.
Dantis, you are completely missing the point of what I'm saying. On top of displaying that you have no understanding of what you're talking about.
I don't get it, there's nothing particularly egregious about that art.
Oh sorry, I was referring to the aigis image. The metis image you posted was great.
Oh, I never saw those, I was forever fixated on that face!
Index licensed PhyreEngine
PhyreEngine runs on ALL Sony hardware, Xbox 360, and PC.
P5's engine is very likely derivative of that and easy to port. I also happen to be playing Atelier Totori (a PE-powered game) and while its over-clocking the Vita's GPU, it's the PS3 game.
I don't think they'll release two SKUs at launch, but actually making them? Borderline trivia.
PhyreEngine runs on ALL Sony hardware, Xbox 360, and PC.
P5's engine is very likely derivative of that and easy to port. I also happen to be playing Atelier Totori (a PE-powered game) and while its over-clocking the Vita's GPU, it's the PS3 game.
I don't think they'll release two SKUs at launch, but actually making them? Borderline trivia.
Yep, and PE is the tool to do it, 'cause GUST is crank in' 'em out like clockwork.
Edit: They just switched over to Koei's engine for that Rorona remake though.
chinaismine
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I wouldn't go so far as to call it trivial, but porting a game that was designed for portability from the ground up certainly takes far less effort than completely rewriting a new version of a game.
I see someone is enjoying Totori.
who?
Right, it's not really trivial in the sense of no work. You're still optimizing code, downscaling assists for the target engine, etc, etc. After all, how many PS3 and PC games came out with poor unoptimized ports this generation? But it's trivial in comparison to what Dantis is suggesting. You don't have to remake all you assits (you were already downscaling them before after all!) nor recode your entire game.
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