Viola of the Abyss
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CrazyTank940
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Thanks for having me stop by! I'm far from the best Mitsuru on here but I'm sure I can give you some tips. I guess playing more of the game in general gave me some more confidence in my
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ScraftyDevil
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Oh good I might be able to find a fiend beforehand.
There is a ton of info
If you're even remotely interested in the Persona 2 duology i'd suggest checking it out.
Here are some of my favorite excerts:
Eikichi said:
Lisa said:
Ulala said:
(This one's interesting)
Nanjo said:
Man this so good
So much good, not surprised about the Nanjo/persona thing though. Even the "ultimates" of at least IS were suped up versions of the characters first persona, so always got the impression that it was the closest to themselves. It's kind of how the same way that the cast could have any persona of the tarot, but there were always some they were better with than others.
Man I loved the idea of that system, but such a thing can't really exist in a 1 More or probably even a Press Turn system, so I get why they had to change it.
Man I loved the idea of that system, but such a thing can't really exist in a 1 More or probably even a Press Turn system, so I get why they had to change it.
thequickandthedead
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My friend only plays 'intellectually stimulating' games. How do i convince him to try the Persona series?
buddha0991
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you can date a pop star
Do what I did and buy a copy for him. What kind of friend wouldn't play a gift?
cj_iwakura
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Tell him two of the games in the series are thought-provoking with stories centering around psychological conflicts. And then in the other two you get dating sims!
THIS IS WHY PEOPLE ARE DISAPPOINTED WITH PERSONA 2'S STORY CJ.
cj_iwakura
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I was kidding, but in all seriousness, I think the Allegory of Whatever is a good indication of how much thought went into P2's story, and P3 lacks a lot of that extra depth.
Tell him about the links to Jungian psychology and world mythology. You could also highlight some of persona 4's links to Nietzsche (who Jung took a bit from.)
cj_iwakura
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In other news, I'm gearing up to take on DDS2's Satan(again), and I'm just about positive Alive is still the greatest OP in series history.
Hits all the right notes.
Hits all the right notes.
thequickandthedead
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Nietzsche? Tell me more. He's pretty into philosophy.
Persona 5 is Big Foot status.
buddha0991
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Yea, Jung, Freud, and Nietzsche. That stuff figures more into the game depending on what game in the series you play!
Fun fact of the day: The backing vocals on Alive are done by Yumi Kawamura, of Persona 3 fame.
The persona series borrows a little bit into the idea of an Ubermensch: Someone who rejects the morals and attitudes of their society and comes to search for something greater. They seek to transcend the mediocrity of their brethren to build a new standard for society based off of their own beliefs.
This isn't apparent until the very end of 3 and 4,
where the protagonists give a hearty "screw you" to the destructive impulses of their society (suicide and self-deception respectively) and take bold action to try and make a brighter future free of those vices
There's also a bit you could derive from Persona 4 about the rejection of the platonic reality (where there is the "apparent" material world and the "true" reality which is usually the world of ideas or spirituality.) But that's something I'm not very familiar with and I would need to replay the game to actually pick up more on (if there is any.)
cj_iwakura
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Explains a lot. I love the synchronization of the music to what's going on.
I feel like Alive is the song that set Meguro on the path that led to Persona vocal tracks sounding like they do. Really catchy, lots of overlays, pop/rock infusion etc.
Great song. Love the full version.
cj_iwakura
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Has anyone here taken out Satan? I've killed Demi-Fiend, but Satan is a little different. Not as threatening, but if you don't follow an exact set of rules, he 9999's the whole team in six turns.
I'm going with Seraph/Cielo/Gale.
I'm going with Seraph/Cielo/Gale.
CJ, your presence here has just reminded me:
A while ago, you posted some Persona 1 illustrations, and I said that they weren't representative of Persona 1's art. I HAVE FOUND OUT WHY. Kaneko did the lines, but Soejima coloured them. That's why the colouring is so good, and so different from Kaneko's other stuff.
A while ago, you posted some Persona 1 illustrations, and I said that they weren't representative of Persona 1's art. I HAVE FOUND OUT WHY. Kaneko did the lines, but Soejima coloured them. That's why the colouring is so good, and so different from Kaneko's other stuff.
I'll take those odds....I've got to win eventually, right?
Yes, yes you will. That's why we wait for the Blessed Tuesday.
cj_iwakura
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Interesting. I think they were the illustrations from Digital Devil Apocalypse?
I can't find my image of it(I could just get another), but I think it was the one with the entire cast on the right and Main's Persona on the left.
Well, I assume they're the ones that he's referring to in the art book. He says he coloured the Persona 1 publication illustrations.
cj_iwakura
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Sounds like it, they seemed like promotional works. Where did he say that at?
A friend once bought me RE4, and I never touched it.
Gonna laugh when it's announced on a Thursday or something.
cj_iwakura
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A friend once bought me RE4, and I never touched it.
Oh boy did you miss out. It's fantastic.
Oh, this was 5 years ago. I played it on Dolphin earlier this year and loved it. I was stupid for ignoring it for so long. Same for Shadows of the Colossus.
Soejima Artworks interview. I was re-reading it the other day. Very interesting stuff. Last time I read it properly was two years ago, and I hadn't seen those illustrations at that point, so it meant nothing to me, I guess.
Master piece.
thequickandthedead
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wtf is thisawww
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It took that picture for me to realize the Persona were supposed to look like idealized versions of the character. And I have been playing these games for two years. :/
cj_iwakura
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Pallas Athena's design predates Aigis'. I've been running into them in the Sun just now in fact!
Liiiiiiiiiiiiiies
The Persona 3 version is heavily modified
This is the one they used in the other series until Strange Journey.
Any time anyone has a unique Persona, the design is also unique too. Yukari's Isis looks different from the playable Isis in Persona 4 for example.
It makes Ken's Personas super confusing. Also Yukari's 2nd form.
Memories of the City is a really good song to listen to but Omen is awesome too for the creepiness factor.
Ken's make a bit more sense in hindsight.
Nemesis is supposed to resemble his mother.(wide hips, unfortunate eye and wheel slit placement). Kala-Nemi (which is apparently from Hindu mythology wtf) is stocky, orange and has a more masculine build. It represents his identity shifting from centering around his mother to himself.
Isis is supposed to be Yukari
building off of her past with her father (The Ox Skull on Io and Isis) as opposed to being chained by it.
As someone who played the original Persona 4 with headphones, Omen just annoyed me. >_>;
CrazyTank940
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Yu as Tatsuya
Yosuke as Eikichi
Chie as Ulala
Yukiko as Maya
Rise as Lisa
Kanji as Baofu
Naoto as Katsuya
Teddie as Jun
Not the easiest parallels to draw between the casts. Also Jun's outfit is pretty bland, even for school uniforms.
Hrrmmm. This is a tough one. Chie or Rise as Lisa is too obvious. Yosuke as Eikichi?
What Daimaou said, not the easiest cast to draw parallels from at all. I guess going by the colour swaps in arena could work too.
Assuming the P1 members are out:
MC> Tatsuya
Yosuke> Eikichi (or Katsuya)
Chie> Lisa
Yukiko> Maya
Kanji > Katsuya (or Eikichi)
Teddie> Jun
Rise> Ulala
Naoto> Baofu
ShmeebAlina
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Interesting! I'd never given much thought to Ken's personas before.
The part about his identity shifting makes so much sense, I absolutely love all these details they incorporate into the designs. Though knowing that about Nemesis makes its goofy appearance seem rather unnerving >_>. Now that I think about it, Nemesis represents retribution and revenge doesn't she? Just clocked that connection now, heh.
Could you provide some insight into Palladion and Athena? I've already looked into them but I'm interested in if you've noticed something I haven't. Oh, and Caesar! His design had me stumped for a while.
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