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You and I can be bros. And they told me you had terrible opinions.
His work on the various persona and demons are outstanding, a lot better Soejima in that regard. However his designs for some of the human characters makes them look like department store mannequins. (Can't unsee)
TurnipFritters
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Soejima and Doi's designs are meant to be more evocative of Maya's actual in-game faces for IS and EP. Doi's in particular.
(Doi's other EP character art is pretty much just straight up redrawn based on Kaneko's stuff - which is fine, but is also disappointing because if they're ok with doing that in EPP, they could have done it SMT4)
buddha0991
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^Where the fuck is Kaneko lately anyway.
while Kanekos maya is awesome, it's lacking in positive thinking.
while Kanekos maya is awesome, it's lacking in positive thinking.
TurnipFritters
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Well... yeah. Soejima drew the in-game portraits in the first place, so of course his art will look closer to them.
Like I say, I've always seen it as deliberate. His older stuff isn't like that, it just progressed in that direction.
Performing some sort of ritual to summon Satan? Maybe he should take a break from MegaTen.
TurnipFritters
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he already has tho?
buddha0991
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^
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Gaze upon one of his replacements and despaiiiiiiiiir.(mild spoiler for SMTIV)
http://images.wikia.com/megamitensei/images/9/9e/Merkabah2.jpg
Muhahahahahahahahahahah
cj_iwakura
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Soejima is best.
I think I remember that from the time I was lurking NeoGAF before my account activated. Serph?
This form is only until the commencement of the ribboning at midnight. The people need a leader and ~Uguu~ Narukami was the perfect fit.
CrazyTank940
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If anything I can kinda see it because the face looks paler than the others
cj_iwakura
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The DDS world is pretty well realized as far as Kaneko works go.
It's a form I assumed to bring about The Ribboning, I've been talking about it all week.
The art style really plays well to the really off feeling of the world, helping make the people in the Junkyard look even more alien while still making them relateable. It's both ugly-cute and hits the uncanny valley at the same time.
His creepy artstyle really makes it hard for me to forget a game because there's absolutely nothing else quite like it. It's gonna be a damn shame when he retires.
You just can't own an avatar, man....[/stonervoice]
buddha0991
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I actually like this one
Also spoilers for SMTIV, namely, DLC.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130619223802/megamitensei/images/c/c2/Ancient_Day_SMT4.jpg
It's simultaneously majestic and goofy. If only the same could be said for Sanat.
Gonna have to agree with you there. I tend to like Doi's designs in general.
cj_iwakura
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Looks similar to an early SMT design and DDS' Brahman One.
did some1 say yasuda
I like Soejima's a more than Doi's. Her face is better and I like the light -> dark shading Soejima does.
But Yasuda's is best.
Why do you hide the truth behind spoiler tags?
Viola of the Abyss
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I actually like Yasuda's design, especially the clothes.
Haru and Amane in Devil Survivor were amazing!
I do agree that his concept of body proportions is not realistic thoough
Haru and Amane in Devil Survivor were amazing!
I do agree that his concept of body proportions is not realistic thoough
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Soejima and Doi's designs are meant to be more evocative of Maya's actual in-game faces for IS and EP. Doi's in particular.
(Doi's other EP character art is pretty much just straight up redrawn based on Kaneko's stuff - which is fine, but is also disappointing because if they're ok with doing that in EPP, they could have done it SMT4)
I feel the same way, I like Doi's art direction but his character design is bad to mediorce most of the time. I don't think Doi is a good fit for SMT (or at least not when it comes to character designs). I felt like what I have seen of SMT IV is a step back from Nocturne and strange journey(in terms of art).
cj_iwakura
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I really don't like that series. Tried it once, couldn't get into it. Felt way too dumbed down compared to SMT.
I respect the popularity though, so I just avoid the threads.
buddha0991
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dunno why you would even compare the two, they have completely different target audiences
I was about to make a "Is that that series that ripped of SMT" joke and cj kind of beat me to it.
I honestly haven't played a Pokemans game in a reeeally long time.
cj_iwakura
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Well you summon demons and fight rival summoners and it's insanely popular, I thought I might like it!
ScraftyDevil
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I DO
It's anything but dumbed-down. The battle system is far more complex than SMT's has ever been, and even if the story isn't anything to write home about, they're still really dang fun to play.
cj_iwakura
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I played my first SMT at 15. My first Pokemon at, uh, 20 something.
I beat Dragon Warrior when I was 8, so there's that!
Heyo_Rockbreaker
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Has anyone noticed how well optimized the teaser site is for cell phones?
Picking it up Thursday!
It's the ass end of 2013, they'd be dumb not to have a well optimized site that works across mobile too.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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:lol
I'm assuming he never played it competitively. If you are just blasting through the story and not touching multiplayer, towers or battle frontier, it definitely gets a bit simple.
edit: I would LOVE a competitive SMT, shit would be amazing
cj_iwakura
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BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Yeah pokemon competitively is among the most complex for RPGS I guess(even for me, which is why I don't fuck with it).
Fun facts: Imagine was the first SMT game I played.
He's done some great concept art.
By and large, Doi did my favorite Maya incarnation.
Word. His Tatsuya is fantastic too.
I cannot disagree harder. The only reason Pokemon seems more complex is because it actually has a competitive meta-game. If Nocturne, SJ, or IV had a mode where you could battle other players, it would be far more complex.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Yup
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