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Persona Community Thread |OT3| Your thread title sucks, Yukiko.
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Thanks but for Persona 1 I think the tracking stopped somewhere in 1996, I'm positive that I read somewhere that it reached 600k LTD (I don't know if it's shipment or sales though and the number must have included the best version)
Media Create had the Persona 4 Best version at 100k+ a while back for example
Persona 3 Portable was outsold by EP PSP and we didn't get the PSP version?
Look again. Persona 3 Portable sold four times as much. You're looking at the PSP The Best re-release.
Persona 3 Portable was outsold by EP PSP and we didn't get the PSP version?
Yep.
Because programming is a bitch and a half.
Well, LOL
wanna save some money
Ok so I was reminded of some rather terrible news just now and I'm going to post this here encase any of you know of an alternative.
Microsoft are updating Skype tonight and making it so things like Mp3 Skype recorder don't fucking work anymore. That means the way we--and how most people podcast will not happen anymore.
If you know of an alternative--please let me know. So pissed right now.
Microsoft are updating Skype tonight and making it so things like Mp3 Skype recorder don't fucking work anymore. That means the way we--and how most people podcast will not happen anymore.
If you know of an alternative--please let me know. So pissed right now.
Blegh, that sucks. This'd only work if you shut off all other system sounds, but you could use Audacity or some other software to record directly from your sound card. I've done that a few times.
does callgraph work?
Makoto was never seen again.
I think we're perceiving the contexts differently, haha.
Either way, no judgement yet. Everyone might look wonderful. Or Naoto might be dressed in an outfit like Rise's.
In which case, judgement.
I think we're perceiving the contexts differently, haha.
Either way, no judgement yet. Everyone might look wonderful. Or Naoto might be dressed in an outfit like Rise's.
In which case, judgement.
Nah, I think you just don't acknowledge the context or don't get it. They're dressing like pop stars, which is what the game is about. Context.
I'm not sure why you'd expect Nao to be dressed like Rise (who's outfit is fine, especially within the context) when they're two different characters.
Seriously though, everybody looks fine. Watch a music video.
Ok, nevermind. Microsoft is extending API functionality till they can find a proper work around.
Also the gentleman that makes the program is updating it. Was really worried there for a minute.
Also the gentleman that makes the program is updating it. Was really worried there for a minute.
Poor FeMC. I hope she gets a cameo in PQ.
buddha0991
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Yes I have heard of this, I think its a combination of the game was a nightmare AND its a PSP game so Atlus went to do Soul Hackers instead, it breaks my positive heart, but they absolutely made the right choice.
Oh, of course. If the money was worth the hassle they would've just hired a programmer.
buddha0991
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just a rumor I heard, only a rumor, but I have been told more than once by different people before that Innocent Sin Portable US was not done legit, and that Atlus US had people reverse engineer their own game from JP.
Kawaii has prevailed once again. My wallet, he cries.
I find that hard to believe considering how long that would have taken them to do. I can't imagine corporate not discovering that.
I find that hard to believe considering how long that would have taken them to do. I can't imagine corporate not discovering that.
Gemini, the fan translator of Innocent Sin PS1, basically said Satan himself worked on the game. Which fits in with what we've heard about Eternal Punishment portable.
^ I love the Milhouse Rise one.
Wait, I read that as "Atlus USA did the translation behind JP's back." If it's technical issues I can certainly believe that.
Wait, I read that as "Atlus USA did the translation behind JP's back." If it's technical issues I can certainly believe that.
Here's an excerpt from the readme file included with the fan translation:
Given that the PSP "remakes" are not true remakes in the sense of all new code, I can see why it might have been a problem for Atlus USA. Especially considering some of the people who worked on the original game are no longer at the company. Like Okada.
I think with the perspective it was programming that held it back (if you believe that), it's good people suggested EP when Sony was soliciting localization requests (I did myself), because that's certainly a resource they could provide to Atlus.
Of course that still might not override the fact we're talking about what would be a post-2013 PSP release.
(P.S. Please don't quote me, talking about Aksys and NISA.)
Of course that still might not override the fact we're talking about what would be a post-2013 PSP release.
(P.S. Please don't quote me, talking about Aksys and NISA.)
Red The Hunter
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Okay, yeah that makes a lot of sense about how Persona 2 was a pain in butt to localize in that the programing was just a nightmare to work with.
cj_iwakura
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So then the big question is, why was IS PSP doable and not EP?
Translations are not one size fits all. IS PSP was doable because Atlus put up the time, manpower, and money to produce it within a timely manner. EP PSP was an equally complex project and the tepid sales of IS and the fact that PSP was virtually dead by the time they arrived at that point told them it was stupid to put in all that time, manpower, and money (and headaches for their programmers) when the pay-off was unlikely to be worth it. It was not a question of it being 'doable', IS already proved it was 'doable'. It was a question of risk and reward.
Is it a shame? Sure. Is it unreasonable? Certainly not.
Presumably, IS PSP was a reverse engineering hackjob as Buddha mentioned, and the higher ups at Atlus USA did not feel it was a good use of their time or money applying the same hackjob to EP Portable. Especially when they had other, easier, stuff to localize.
I could be entirely wrong. All just guesswork from my ass, but it makes the most sense with what we've heard. Reverse engineering is no simple task, and very time consuming.
Unless I am misunderstanding the situation, simple answer for that would be that they were committed to Innocent Sin well before they realized how big of an issue the localization would be.
cj_iwakura
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I asked if she can do an Ayase for me. Here's hoping!
ScraftyDevil
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Same. From what I've heard, all of the new characters' themes sound great.
Red The Hunter
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I think their are a couple of reasons that I could think of why, in that ATLUS USA does not have in-house programers, and all help with localization in terms of programing has to be done by the developer who made the game. And I think that the programers moved on to other projects, so that means you would have to take programers off their current project they are currently working on to help with the localization. And ATLUS Japan may have not seen it as a good investment of their programmers time, when they could focus on other projects.
This is just speculation on my part as to why.
Yeah, I like all of them, which is good since P4A had more than a few duds. I don't know how simple it is to upload music from the arcade, though. I uploaded the main theme earlier, but that has a fair bit of noise in it since it wasn't a direct recording.
In terms of original music there'd really just be Yukari's theme, Junpei's theme and the themes for both versions of Sho as well as a couple of new P4A2 fighting tracks and the main theme.
Sucks that there don't seem to be any MU specific themes right now (or MU specific intros) aside from the mirror matches. It'd also be crazy if the normal vs. Shadow matches wasn't "I'll Face Myself -Battle-" this time around.
Just finished The Answer for the first time, thus wrapping up my Persona 3:FES experience. Two things:
A: (Boss spoilers)
I really enjoyed how the story wrapped up, though.
B: I definitely have that empty void feeling now. Trying to decide whether to jump into Persona 2 or do another play-through of Golden to fill the void. Emotions and decisions on my plate tonight.
A: (Boss spoilers)
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck those last few fights. Thumbing through all the dialogue only to get charmed by Mitsuru and killed instantly fucking sucked. Erebus was tough, too. Ended up having to go and level up Odin to get dat Thunder Reign to do enough damage.
B: I definitely have that empty void feeling now. Trying to decide whether to jump into Persona 2 or do another play-through of Golden to fill the void. Emotions and decisions on my plate tonight.
I'm most interested in Sho's theme myself, or whatever is used for the final fight.
Persona Sho's theme is the one used for this trailer.
Normal Sho's theme is the one heard right at the start of this Nico Nico video.
Poetic.Injustice
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It probably will be.
Persona 2 will never fill the void. It's a neat old-school rpg tho.
Is what was said when the original game came out and people considered mirror matches.
Yeah I know. I want a clean version. =p
I was tweeting the same last night. Lisa would be amazing.
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