I think my usual party for that fight is Yukiko / Teddie / Yosuke. The fight is one of preservation mainly, and having the Protagonist, Yukiko, and Teddie all overlap in both damage dealing and healing makes it easy to save SP.
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I think my usual party for that fight is Yukiko / Teddie / Yosuke. The fight is one of preservation mainly, and having the Protagonist, Yukiko, and Teddie all overlap in both damage dealing and healing makes it easy to save SP.
You're looking at it completely wrong.
Yukiko and Teddie don't compete for a team slot. They compliment each other and ultimately end up work very well on the same team (and they help form the ever solid Yukiko/Teddie/Kanji triumvirate of balance)
Yukiko is the best character in Golden. Early access to Amrita + Solid Healing/Offense and high magic makes her an absolute powerhouse. But her being a great character does not invalid Teddie. Teddie is still appealing due to his awesome buffs + healing + solid ice skills (Chie's Ice skills are awful). He actually competes with Yosuke, due to their shared weaknesses and sameish hybrid role.
Incidentally, Kanji is by far and away the strongest party member on the team, not Yukiko.
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@Seks: Teddie gets Matarukaja at level 42. Make sure you learn it before challenging the boss again.
Teddie provides full buff coverage and gives you additional freedom to include party members without compromising the ability to distribute and maintain buffs, in addition to providing an additional layer of healing, and amrita in case your other party members are afflicted with status buffs. And of course he has the strongest ice-attacks among your party members.
There isn't really a redundant party member in a game that rewards partially overlapping skillsets anyway.
Spectrasonic
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I edited my main post from what you quoted, that addresses some of your points, btw
You sure about that? Burning Petals + Fire Amp + Fire Vow + Mind Charge does quite a lot.
I meant her characterization. Don't like her, just like I don't like Lisa. :/
It's his cannon name.
What's this "Yu?" That's not cannon. Next time have a cannon name before you do a name your protagonist, Atlus.
I'll be honest, I've never been one to use buffs/debuffs very often in SMT. Same for items (though that's a JRPG trope that has made it's way to SMT). Hard Golden has actually gotten me to break one of those, but outside of
Teddie
main fights
lol, Seta is his last name: 瀬多 総司
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Ganzlinger
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Did Atlus made some announcement regarding this "canon name" issue? Since Yu Narukami appears in the anime and in Persona 4 Arena, I thought it was the "canon name".
Hot Coldman
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Charlie Tunoku.
Spectrasonic
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I guess the employees at Atlus formed two warring factions that couldn't decide on the name
I'll have to challenge your logic here. First off:
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Kanji: Gains access to Matarukaja at level 60. He shouldn't be wasting time using buffs anyway, due to the obscenely powerful Primal Force/Power Charge combo.
Verdict: Teddie is better suited to buffing.
Chie: Tarukaja is fucking terrible in the face of Ma- buff skills and Revolution is inconsistent.
Verdict: Doesn't compete with Teddie.
Yosuke: Only learns Sukukaja skills.
Verdict: Doesn't compete with Teddie.
Rise: Is this a joke...? Her buffs are inconsistent.
Verdict: lol
Protagonist: Consistently gains debilitate at level 73 at the earliest. It's a debuff skill and it does not compete with Teddie's buff skills. In fact, they stack together.
Verdict: The protagonist can do anything, but the less he can rely on his party members to fulfill niches, the better.
That's a horribly limited way of team building. Any team more or less works, depending on the situation. Just avoid placing Kanji / Chie on the same team. Teddie works well as a boss killer due to his buffs, and he's useful for mobs due to his healing and strong ice skills. His biggest flaw is that he doesn't work well with Yosuke
That's a combination that is only available in the last 10% of the game. But i'll humor you:
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Severe Petal's base damage = 400 (We don't know for sure but i'm assuming it's around Ragnarok's base power)
Primal Force's base damage = 2200
Severe Petals: 400 x 2.5 x 1.25 x 1.5 x 1.1 = 2062.5
Primal Force: 2200 x 2.5 = 5500 (Incidentally, this is why Kanji is overpowered in golden)
She's still weaker than Kanji by a fairly significant margin.
Your problem is that you're too fixated on endgame setups. Think of Teddie's performance throughout the entire game. He's solid from beginning to end, and he is very useful during the Shadow Mitsuo boss (arguably the toughest boss in the game).
Spectrasonic
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Here's a video of me beating him. I think the video cuts out some of the middle but it could help. It looks like I was level 40.
The battle starts at 1:35:55 but the link should take you directly there:
Good luck!
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Canon
CrazyTank940
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Not even her best roles.
Yo, best Digimon for sure.
Well I like Omegamon a lot too. Shit I guess their tied for me lol
Whatever, the point is: Atlus is slow and next time they should have an official name before the fanbase adopts one.
Minato and Seta for life.
Ganzlinger
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This whole thing Minato, Makoto, Souji, Yu... bugs me. Everytime I search protagonist's art on internet I have to make two searches. Four actually if I also search in Japanese.
CrazyTank940
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Is it wrong the only reason I don't like Minato Arisato is because it rhymes?
Ljrivarola
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No, it's not. I don't like it for the same reason.
Not even her best roles.
~Momentai~
I think so. They sound almost jarringly similar, even if not.
It was a great series, but I always thought it started really dark and became really depressing. Jeri :'(
It's on Netflix US now, btw.
Ditto
Hot Coldman
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That's why it's so good! It had stakes. More importantly the tertiary cast wasn't an afterthought (rare as hell in a show like this).
Shit was deep, chumling.
Ganzlinger
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The first time I played Persona, which was P3, I named the MC with my own name. As for P4, I already knew his name Yu, so I gave him the "canon" name.
SloaneRisette
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Excuse me that's not how you spell Charlie Tunoku
I definitely thought Digimon was a cut above even as a kid. Adventure 02 might be the television highlight of my childhood. Yes, even past DBZ. Tamers is a standout, too. I have a hunch that one holds up the the best.
I do. Unless I'm a lady player then it's usually Kirino. Or CJ, cause initials are unisex. Pamela Anderson's character in Baywatch was named CJ. That has northing to do with anything, I just always found it funny.
I am very upset when people insist that the alternate protagonist for Persona 3 was not a ballistic weapon commonly loaded onto pirate vessels.
Ganzlinger
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But if she is cannon (lol), Makoto doesn't exist.
animaSerah
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I've begun a new series of HD wallpapers modeled on the ASW arcade site for Ultra Suplex Hold. I'm in the process of making them for all of the announced characters (Normal and Shadow Types), and I'm also planning to adjust the wallpapers for use as banners on the "new and improved" Twitter user pages.
Here's what I have so far!
Yu Narukami
Yosuke Hanamura
Chie Satonaka
Yukiko Amagi
Mitsuru Kirijo
Aigis
These take a little while to make - particularly the Twitter banners - so except to see them coming out in batches over the next several days. Enjoy!
Here's what I have so far!
Yu Narukami
Yosuke Hanamura
Chie Satonaka
Yukiko Amagi
Mitsuru Kirijo
Aigis
These take a little while to make - particularly the Twitter banners - so except to see them coming out in batches over the next several days. Enjoy!
Ganzlinger
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Great work, TheTrueSelf!
Speaking of which, I forgot to mention: Lelouch's Adachi looked pretty cool.
Speaking of which, I forgot to mention: Lelouch's Adachi looked pretty cool.
You can totally see his psycho side.
You people are all good people. I knew Hot Coldman was a fellow Giant Bomber, but it warms my heart to see others in here outside the GB thread on Gaming side. I call pretty much every SMT protagonist Charlie when I play them in Japanese, if only because sometimes the role-playing gets even more inadvertently interesting if you tack on the gaijin persona like I am in real life.
!I don't know what kind of dumb ass ships you have sailed on, matey, but I have never seen any pirate ships that only carried a single cannon aboard. It'd take a reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally narrowminded captain for that to happen.
Since it's JYB, I use Ichigo Kurosaki for my P4 MC name usually!
RockderBanja
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You know I would totally (P4 endgame spoliers)
Live in the fog. You only see what you want to see, everything's great and all that.
I mean other than the groundhog day-esque part, Narumkami totally got to see his friends forever, and that's what he wanted.
Maybe even being turned into a shadow is not so bad, I mean Teddie was a shadow, Screw Reaching out to the Truth, I want to live in the fog. /s
Oh and screw Fury of Yasogami, Izanami is totally kicking my ass and don't remember that happening the first time I played. Should I switch out Naoto for Yosuke? I'm playing OG P4.
I mean other than the groundhog day-esque part, Narumkami totally got to see his friends forever, and that's what he wanted.
Maybe even being turned into a shadow is not so bad, I mean Teddie was a shadow, Screw Reaching out to the Truth, I want to live in the fog. /s
Oh and screw Fury of Yasogami, Izanami is totally kicking my ass and don't remember that happening the first time I played. Should I switch out Naoto for Yosuke? I'm playing OG P4.
MiguelMexMIstery
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So GAF, here's a little story: Ever since I had become a fan of Persona, I've been trying to get people to watch the P4 anime, but to no succes. Luckily, I managed to get a close friend to watch both Dangan Ronpa and Persona 4 (because why not?). And he really liked both of them, so I invited him to my house and I showed him both P3 (so he could understand P4A and PQ) and P4 games. I also showed him the P4 Hiimsday comic and enjoyed it a lot because he understood the references.
Then it was kinda funny because I told him P3 appeared in P4A so he was surprised to see who made it, and after we played for awhile he said after seeing Shadow Labrys "Wouldn't it be cool if they made shadow versions of everyone playable" And then I showed him the trailer of P4AU and his reaction was awesome, (P4 spoilers)
And after that, because he only has Nintendo consoles, I showed him the PQ trailer and he was very excited to see both of the cast together, and he says he's probably gonna buy it when it launches over here. From P4 he really liked all of the characters, specially Yosuke, Narukami and Teddie. And from P3 he seemed to like Aigis and Elizabeth.
So invited him over again and tomorrow he's coming to my house. We are gonna watch the P3 movie! But I need advice: (P4 and P3 spoilers)
Then it was kinda funny because I told him P3 appeared in P4A so he was surprised to see who made it, and after we played for awhile he said after seeing Shadow Labrys "Wouldn't it be cool if they made shadow versions of everyone playable" And then I showed him the trailer of P4AU and his reaction was awesome, (P4 spoilers)
specially since he was like "WAIT, was that Adachi?
So invited him over again and tomorrow he's coming to my house. We are gonna watch the P3 movie! But I need advice: (P4 and P3 spoilers)
During his watching of P4, every time one of the fake culprits (Mitsuo, Namatame and Adachi) was caught, he always wondered why there were episodes left and I had to make excuses, but I'm pretty sure he knew there was something else anyways. And right now, he already knows who are going to appear in P4AU from the P3 side so I need some excuses if he asks why P3MC and Shinji don't appear in the game.
Ganzlinger
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lol, this was a good analogy.
I really don't have any problem in recognizing FeMC as cannon. She doesn't bother me at all. But there is a paradox if she is the Wild Card. She can only be the protagonist in a different universe as far as I know. So if both are cannon, we have two universes in Persona. Two ships with one cannon each.
Here's an idea...
Its Persona 4 Arena, so they decided to only take side characters from Persona 3.
They probably just put in the fan favorite characters.
I don't know.
Tell him they both went out for cigarettes one day and we're all still waiting for them to come back home one day so we can all be a happy family again. ;____;
I've begun a new series of HD wallpapers modeled on the ASW arcade site for Ultra Suplex Hold. I'm in the process of making them for all of the announced characters (Normal and Shadow Types), and I'm also planning to adjust the wallpapers for use as banners on the "new and improved" Twitter user pages.
Here's what I have so far!
Yu Narukami
Yosuke Hanamura
Chie Satonaka
Yukiko Amagi
Mitsuru Kirijo
Aigis
These take a little while to make - particularly the Twitter banners - so except to see them coming out in batches over the next several days. Enjoy!
Do you have these in Vita resolution? Could be useful...
You people are all good people. I knew Hot Coldman was a fellow Giant Bomber, but it warms my heart to see others in here outside the GB thread on Gaming side. I call pretty much every SMT protagonist Charlie when I play them in Japanese, if only because sometimes the role-playing gets even more inadvertently interesting if you tack on the gaijin persona like I am in real life.
*high-five* I'm also on #TeamCharlie
SloaneRisette
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You guys are so silly sometimes
RockderBanja
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Nice Boat.
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