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Persona Community Thread |OT5| Pull up a chair! [NO PQ OR P4U SPOILERS!]
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Willsmith1991
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Chie, is recieved well in Japan i heard? Personally she seems likable, her heart is in the right place anyway. Bit clingy to Yukiko which makes you question her sexuality a bit IMO but... yeah a nice girl all round.
I'd say go for Portable. The improved gameplay, direct party control and lack of fatigue will make playing it less of a hassle and I, personally, don't think it suffers too much on the presentation side. Sure it loses the animated cutscenes but they aren't that great apart from the first one. Not having to run around the school etc. is a time saver too. Also portability!
If you wanna see The Answer, YouTube it or read up a summery. It's honestly not that fun to play.
Ultimax is right around the corner, so here are some avatars, straight from P4U. Feel free to use them.
Awesome avatars! Having trouble picking between Yukiko and Yosuke, but I think I'll go with Yukiko for now.
I'd go with Portable. I played P3P first and then FES, and FES felt like a slog not because I already know the story, but because of the gameplay.
In FES, you can't change your party members' equipments through the main menu; you have to talk to them in Tartarus (the dungeon). The equipment store is also not open at night in FES. Most importantly, you can't control your party members besides giving them a command type, such as full assault or heal/support. However, there are anime cutscenes that make the story look better.
In P3P, everything is improved in terms of gameplay and the FeMC route is a great addition too, but there are no anime cutscenes. I wasn't bothered by the presentation in P3P, but the game's final moments suffer from the presentation and look much better in FES.
Again, I'd recommend Portable because in my book, gameplay is more important than presentation. The story for both versions is the same, except for The Answer, which is only available in FES. It's purely grinding and some people find it a hassle for the amount of story given. You can just watch that online if you want the story though.
Spectrasonic
Member
Oh, cool. I'm glad people liked the avatars. I'll be sure to round out the set when Ultimax comes out.
Chee is okay.
They didn't do anything to nerf the boss itself. The lack of Night Queen was probably the AI roulette working in your favor.
Full Party control makes things significantly easier in that fight (and a few others) so your idiot party members don't go acting/attacking recklessly.
They didn't do anything to nerf the boss itself. The lack of Night Queen was probably the AI roulette working in your favor.
Full Party control makes things significantly easier in that fight (and a few others) so your idiot party members don't go acting/attacking recklessly.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Thanks, Im going to do it then! Afte all, Im also looking forward to Persona 3 Portable now!
And I took 87 hours already! lol
Thinking about P3/P4 protagonists this weekend, I realized that they probably designed both of them to appeal directly to the audience they were trying to reach. In both cases, it's like they're designed to be the antithesis of the overall message of the game.
for P3 protagonist, the theme is about living life to the fullest, using every day as if it were your last, and not being indifferent about death. The protagonist on the other hand is designed to look unattached, unaffected, and generally indifferent about everything. Hands in his pockets as if he's hiding something and always wearing headphones so he can separate himself from the people around him.
P4's theme is about not relying on surface clues, but really digging down into what makes a person tick. It's about actually putting in the effort to find who you really are. The protagonist, however, is portrayed as someone very preppy and fashion obsessed. He's described as someone who everyone thinks is really cool, and even his language in the japanese version pushes a manly, heroic vibe. He's designed as somewhat of a shallow character, someone very concerned with image and surface values.
I feel like they wanted those characters to attract the people that needed to hear the lesson the most. Now, I haven't read any of the design works, so I could be terribly off base here or just regurgitating known information. I found it to be an interesting thought, though.
for P3 protagonist, the theme is about living life to the fullest, using every day as if it were your last, and not being indifferent about death. The protagonist on the other hand is designed to look unattached, unaffected, and generally indifferent about everything. Hands in his pockets as if he's hiding something and always wearing headphones so he can separate himself from the people around him.
P4's theme is about not relying on surface clues, but really digging down into what makes a person tick. It's about actually putting in the effort to find who you really are. The protagonist, however, is portrayed as someone very preppy and fashion obsessed. He's described as someone who everyone thinks is really cool, and even his language in the japanese version pushes a manly, heroic vibe. He's designed as somewhat of a shallow character, someone very concerned with image and surface values.
I feel like they wanted those characters to attract the people that needed to hear the lesson the most. Now, I haven't read any of the design works, so I could be terribly off base here or just regurgitating known information. I found it to be an interesting thought, though.
Hm, not bad. Hadn't heard of that interpretation before now, but it sounds good.
DryEyeRelief
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It's honestly up to you. New Game+ has a "bonus" that isn't available during your first playthrough. So even if you went back to see the true ending, you still haven't seen everything. Maybe that will help your decision.
I would vote for FES for this reason alone but looks like he already made his decision.
When you beat the game, make sure to watch the ending (end of final boss all the way to the credits) and the Answer.
Yellow_Magic
Neo Member
Dang, that's a solid theory. I love how games like these tend to be so much deeper when revisited.
Been replaying Persona 2: Eternal Punishment (happy birthday :3 :3) and it's still, like, really cool. The Baofu/Katsuya interactions,Tatsuya's atonement, Maya Amano being Maya Amano, the city life....top-knotch stuff as far as jRPGs go, fourteen years later. Definitely my favourite Persona game to date.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Im interested on playing the other Personas games (except the 1st one, I couldnt stand those graphics anymore), and Persona 2 really looks interesting. Persona 3 Portable will be my next one though!
Velcro Fly
Member
i should have bought P1 and both parts of P2 when they were $5 a few weeks ago.
I have P1 on UMD but I don't feel like playing anything on my PSP these days.
I have P1 on UMD but I don't feel like playing anything on my PSP these days.
Yellow_Magic
Neo Member
Yeah, I couldn't get into Persona 1 in the end, even the PSP version. Even for a guy like me who's into older-school RPGs (like SNES-era stuff), Persona 1 mechanics are super-dated. Graphics are pretty awful too, although to be honest I like the first-person perspective.
People praise Persona 2: Innocent Sin a lot (and straight-up call it Persona 2 simply because it got an official English release, which grinds my gears), but to me it's just a dated, risque-as-hell version of Persona 3. I mean, how many other games have you playing as characters in their 20's as opposed to high-school kids?
Kssio_Aug
Member
But would be recommended to play Persona 2 Eternal Punishment without playing Innocent Sin?
What about the gameplay of those. Are they still great?
Yellow_Magic
Neo Member
hmm..at the very least I'd try to read a plot hypnosis of the Innocent Sin because it really helps understand the overall story a bit more. I played both, but I never finished Innocent Sin because my save got corrupted 50 hours in
I appreciated the gameplay of both even if they get a bit tedious at times. EP's is slightly better because there are fewer choices for interacting with demons, leading to less trial and error.
I don't agree with this part. He was designed and portrayed as a confident, likeable guy who had the personality to find out who people really are. I don't think he's designed to be this fashion aficionado or whatever, since there would actually be references to that within the games and the anime.
He's almost like a wish-fulfillment character in my opinion, but the game being centred around relationships with characters makes me fine with that. I just hoped that they could have covered the part where he really wants to be liked by his peers and a lot of what he does is for recognition. It honestly sounds like a realistic portrayal and it'd make for a pretty relatable Shadow.
UltraGunner
Banned
Yeah, she got third in the popularity poll in Japan. She was tied for that place with Naoto.
thequickandthedead
Member
Finally back from my ban. Any new Persona 5 info in the last 2 months?
Hahaha, not an ounce
Yellow_Magic
Neo Member
who dares ban Yang Wenli?
UltraGunner
Banned
Something slavery something Emancipation Proclamation.
Spectrasonic
Member
P4U2 website updated today with the Madcatz fight stick.
No price or release date, though. It mentions the buttons can be switched to work with the PS4 or PS3.
No price or release date, though. It mentions the buttons can be switched to work with the PS4 or PS3.
Kssio_Aug
Member
hmm..at the very least I'd try to read a plot hypnosis of the Innocent Sin because it really helps understand the overall story a bit more. I played both, but I never finished Innocent Sin because my save got corrupted 50 hours in
I appreciated the gameplay of both even if they get a bit tedious at times. EP's is slightly better because there are fewer choices for interacting with demons, leading to less trial and error.
I guess I will buy those two as soon as I see a discount on them!
I felt like the MC in P4 is like a "neutral" char, so you could be yourself through him. However he is also the link between all the characters, the one who kind of put everyone together and make them realize the value of a trully friendship. But I also dont agree on the "fashion aficcionado" statement.
hipsterpants
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I think Yu was a pretty standard self-insert protagonist except with better writing and S. links that don't have you hanging out with colossal twats
Then fan-interpretation turned him in to the ultimate baller and Atlus decided that's who he is now.
except Yosuke.
Then fan-interpretation turned him in to the ultimate baller and Atlus decided that's who he is now.
Believe it or not, Soejima actually tried to make the P3 protagonist look as neutral as possible. He strived to make him look like an ordinary guy with a hidden element of coolness. But with that said, I don't think you're completely off base. The P3 design work was made in 2006, and it's clear that the Persona team has shifted their outlook on the protagonist since then, given the drama CD, P3 Movie and Persona Q, where he's been consistently characterized as an apathetic, quiet individual.
Soejima worked very hard to make the P4 protagonist look cool and fashionable, but I think that had more to do with his obsession of adhering to his *coolness theory*, rather than to try and send a message. In regards to P4's universe, you're probably right. Supposedly, he's the type of person who:
-Always cuts his nails short
-Polishes his shoes every morning before going to school
-Buys fashionable clothing
-Intentionally wears his clothing in a way that makes him look cool
So he's probably very concerned with his appearance.
Yes, she was the ranked the favorite female character out of the Persona universe.
Margaret is being voiced by Marisha Ray in PQ and Ultimax. I've actually heard of her. She did a Batgirl web series a while ago ( she played the title role).
https://twitter.com/Marisha_Ray/status/483699030287863808
This might be her first venture into voice acting, but that's just a guess.
https://twitter.com/Marisha_Ray/status/483699030287863808
This might be her first venture into voice acting, but that's just a guess.
Really have no idea what you're saying, but it's possible to love someone and it have nothing to do with sexuality. It's called platonic love, and everyone experiences it.
Going to miss Michelle, but I look forward to hearing Marisha's take on the character.
Interested in hearing what she brings to the table.
Reanimatoin
Member
Nice one, So now we really do know everyone who is voicing characters in these games.
Only thing now is to see some English trailers Atlus...............please?
Margaret should be interesting.
Unrelated, but I sincerely hope P5 keeps the fixed inheritance system.
Re-rolling is legit horribifuckus.
I just spent 4 hours making the fusion ingredients for a Beelzebub in Nocturne.
And then I went to the fifth Kalpa for the 200,000 Macca pierce demon and forgot I spent all 600K of my fucking money.
Unrelated, but I sincerely hope P5 keeps the fixed inheritance system.
Re-rolling is legit horribifuckus.
I just spent 4 hours making the fusion ingredients for a Beelzebub in Nocturne.
And then I went to the fifth Kalpa for the 200,000 Macca pierce demon and forgot I spent all 600K of my fucking money.
His post makes it sound like that's a negative @_@
And Yukiko is more clingy towards Chie. She's outright stated that Chie is the only person that gave her life meaning.
Willsmith1991
Neo Member
Yeah that's true i guess i was more of a mutual thing. I wasn't being negative about it at all, in the early stages of the game her character just came across to me like that a bit until S.links Ofc.
Just kinda crazy that the AI roulette didn't even go off in either fight, haha.
buddha0991
Member
I thought Naoto was the 2nd or 3rd most popular character in the series, up there with Yu and Yosuke?
Dante Morgan
Banned
Managed to beat
(P3 Spoiler) on my second try. The only times I came close to losing was when he/she/it/whatever managed to kill both Aigis and Yukari during the phase where it uses nothing but Zio-skills, and when it used Night Queen all the way at the end and charmed Yukari and feared Koromaru. Luckily my Seth had Amrita, so that was easily remedied.
Big thanks to Ljrivarola for telling me about Abaddon's Heart Item. The boss hit me with four or five Night Queens, but I could just laugh in its face thanks to that Tome. Corvo must have gotten really lucky if it's never used Night Queen against him. I got hit with it just about every turn.
It's a really fun, nerve-wrecking boss fight that forces you to throw everything you have at it. The only thing I didn't like was that all damage except Almighty gets halved in the final phase, but other than that, great fight. Now all that's left is to watch the ending...
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Big thanks to Ljrivarola for telling me about Abaddon's Heart Item. The boss hit me with four or five Night Queens, but I could just laugh in its face thanks to that Tome. Corvo must have gotten really lucky if it's never used Night Queen against him. I got hit with it just about every turn.
It's a really fun, nerve-wrecking boss fight that forces you to throw everything you have at it. The only thing I didn't like was that all damage except Almighty gets halved in the final phase, but other than that, great fight. Now all that's left is to watch the ending...
I'm ready to shed some manly tears.
You're right, Naoto is #3. Chie is lucky #4.
SUCK ON THAT, JELLO!
Reanimatoin
Member
I assume this is what people are talking about
(google Persona Character Popularity Poll)
A bit surprising to see some people on here while others are completely left out.
Also, the persona ranking chart at the bottom is interesting too.
JoseOle5990
Member
She has a voice over demo reel on her website. Having only heard her through this, I think she fits Margaret. I feel like she nails the clear, stoic, almost militaristic style. But outside of that style, she sounds a bit green to me.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Who are the 1st two? (Any from P4?)
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Never mind! Just saw the picture!!
Wow... My preferences are very different from majority then. My favorite P4 characters were: Yukiko, Rise and Teddie, not necessarily on this order! BUT I really liked every single character and in same aspects I would even vote for the other characters, such as Yosuke, Kanji and Naoto.
Green Mamba
Member
Yukari below Koromaru? What the fuck.
And even taking into account spinoffs and adaptations the protagonists being as high as they are seems really silly to me.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Yeah. That was a surprise for me!
But I really cant tell about the series in general, since P4G was the only one I played. And talking about that, I guess Im gonna buy P3P this week!
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