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Persona Community Thread |OT5| Pull up a chair! [NO PQ OR P4U SPOILERS!]
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A Manga series full of ripped dudes in fab outfits doing weird poses while they say and do silly things midfight.
It's relevant to Persona because in part 3 of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure the characters develop psychic buddies who fight alongside them, have special powers of their own, and are named for suits in the Tarot. Like JoJo's is Star Platinum, for instance.
There was an older anime series and now there is another that's ongoing.
Apparently JoJo's Bizarre Adventure has had a huge impact on anime over the years.
Oh ok, sounds pretty cool. Is the new series why it's literally everywhere right now?
buddha0991
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The new series also has some things in common with modern Persona:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4458fC7mDsc
Yes, pretty much. I had never heard of it until like, last Fall, and the show just started in 2012, so yeah.
snow in jamaica
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is that Grim Skeleton Carmen Sandiego
they found her, and she's fucked up and horrifying
they're compared because they're both school kid slice of life things with a serial killer and personas were inspired by stands. also part 4.
some megaten games have a bomb skill called bites the dust, a reference to killer queen's bites the dust bomb in jojo~
Dantis Rage incoming.
I never did do Ai's social link when i played P4. I really enjoyed it in the anime however.
Rise is your waifu
That's okay, Naoto sucks anyway.
I'm just gonna be that guy and point out that FeMC's head is sort of way bigger than normal in this picture.
Huge is an understatement. It influenced a lot of different shows and creators in it's near 40 year run. Including things you wouldn't expect. Part 3 is most infamous for basically inspiriting the visual designs for Personas tho.
On the one hand: Yes.
On the other hand: The guy isn't imitating Soejima, I don't think, so it kind of doesn't matter.
The problem is the proportions aren't consistent with the other characters on the page. Yu for instance is nearly regular proportions so it makes Clara look really weird
* I say nearly because there seems to be a problem with his ribcage, even accounting for his pose
The thing about JoJo poses is that even with their hyper-exaggerated anatomy nothing ever actually looks full on broken
Lollipop Dave
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Red The Hunter
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Yes, yes they do....
These game are pretty good for what they are, despite their flaws and if you can find them for a good price I would say go for it. Why else do you think I have Red as my name and avatar, because he's such a cool character.
Though I do want to play their dotHack series of game, just wish they weren't so rare and expensive, because I would buy them.
Lollipop Dave
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Are they expensive? I found the first 4 parts in a local game store for a total of (roughly) £30. But saying that, I recently bought the .Hack fighting game for the same price...
Lets not forget this brilliant game too.
LelouchViBritannia
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Them hands look flat as hell.
I always did think Chie looked kinda odd in that pic aswell.
Red The Hunter
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Yes, yes they are over here, Bandai printed a very small print run of each game in the series over here, so your gonna have prices ranging from like around $20 for like the first game in the series all the way up to like $90 for one of the GU games.
rockman zx
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Do we know if the 2013 concert is going to be released on dvd/cd at some point?.
Lollipop Dave
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Oh my, some of them are quite high. The GU games never released in PAL territories so I've never seen them for sale.
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SpacePirate Ridley
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Oh, sorry.
Well I used sometimes basic paintbrushes, and other times I use the magnetic lasso (I like where it says the line is going), you could do the same with the pen tool, but I always found it faster with the lasso and then fill up the shape. For not rectangular shapes I use paintbrush and color and erase until I like it.
It's an obsession I have since I worked doing art in the Scribblenaut games, and as you needed to do them as fast as you could (they were thousands of characters and objects) I tried to use the most basic tools, I know theres probably easier ways though.
Thanks, yeah, Im also starting to like it a little bit more.
I don't know, I like the composition. I remember finding this image (and theres a acompanion one where some are fighting and others are bored) when I was making the scooby doo parody and liking it a lot. Yeah the hands are a little bit bad, Im not that good at drawing hands either if im not looking at a photo or something.
CrazyTank940
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That and All-Star Battle. The game and Season 1 were announced in 2012 as part of the series' 25th anniversary even (Season 1 came out that year, ASB the following in japan, and only recently internationally for both).
Oh and avoid the OVA that's from the 90's/2000's. Very crappy adaptation of part 3 (removes chunks completely, altered some parts that were featured). It led to the creation of a pretty good abridged series but that's all I can say that's positive about it.
It reminds me of the Burger King commercial of the guy with tiny hands
It's made worse by how good Soejima is at drawing hands.
SpacePirate Ridley
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He does pretty amazing work with the body and faces in anime form, thats why I like he style very much. I also think he designs pretty good clothes for the characters, not becuase they are special, but becuase its something that you can see in any real street but still gives lots of charisma to the character and has lots of style.
Hot Coldman
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I'm sat here, listening to the reactions towards the end of the latest podcast, and I can't help thinking nearly all those reactions are probably reasonable :lol
What!? That Koromaru is the realest!
SpacePirate Ridley
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I'm afraid of that cosplay koromaru, it also has one of the characters I most hate from that game that isn't ken. The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas.
I actually agree with this.
ScraftyDevil
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Yup. The last picture in that link was my Vita wallpaper for the longest time, just so that I could have a giggle every time I turned the thing on.
SloaneRisette
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Are there Social Links?
DryEyeRelief
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You don't think a girl who is exceptionally comfortable about her body, compared to every other girl within that group, is notable?
I'm not sure how else to explain it.
What do you think the comic is making fun of? It's not an exaggeration.
Your analysis has to do with what it represents within the story itself, which I'm already aware of. I'm asking you, why does this exist, for player consumption purposes.
I mean to give a really obtuse example, that'll probably confuse you and Jintor, one of the features in P4G are costumes right?
You can dress up Yu Narukami in drag is one example. Within the game, that distresses your party members about Yu.
So for player consumption purposes, what is that Rise opening animation?
I mean I tried to underline this previously. Imagine a new player to P4, starts up the game, has no knowledge of who Rise is, has no clue what the storyline is about, and is shown this. And of all the character misrepresentations to use, why was it Rise in a bikini? Why not Mayumi Yamano, which would have been a superior lead in?
I only got any leverage in this conversation by mentioning concrete details. So I guess I'll try and do it again:
You know how you can initiate romance with Rise in Lovers Rank 8, right? We both agree that part of that story is in bad taste I think.
I'm different in that I can't separate that part of the link from the rest. It's because I believe that the entire link revolves around that one scene.
I've been saying that every link is structured differently. They have some common traits of course. Like, there's usually an NPC(s) involved that facilitates the character's later changes. In Rise's case, that's obviously the manager, right?
Inoue, the manager, is introduced very early on as a shady individual you are supposed to be weary of, in favor of Rise. And it builds, with every scene afterwards.
I guess what I'm trying to get at here, is that Rise's story involves the MC in a different way than other links do. In other social links with girls, you can waifu them after their conflict is already solved. And usually any prior allusions to said romance is done separately, and is mostly secondary.
Rise's link is different in that you waifu her during the APEX of her conflict and all the prior events from before lead up to that one moment. It's a waifu social link. (Lovers Rank2) The social link starts at Souzai Daigaku, where she elaborates on her loneliness but that she's happy to have you around. Lovers Rank 8, where her manager tells her off and you comfort her, takes place at the exact same setting, with the same camera angle. It's totally deliberate.
I only played Golden but I know that fully voiced social links were a new addition. Rise's the only character in this game that gets 3 entire link ranks, fully voiced. And it starts at Rank 8. Yeah Rank 8. It doesn't start with her moment of clarity. It starts in the scene where you're supposed to comfort her in a moment of weakness.
I think we both agree that there are some parts of her character development that are repetitive. I don't think it's due to lack of creativity on the writer's parts. It's because if Rise actively built off her shadow dungeon encounter, you would have something similar to Kanji's situation. The problem wouldn't be an inner conflict, but instead it would be more about actions to change. And that kind of development wouldn't involve the MC in same way that it does now.
You know how you can initiate romance with Rise in Lovers Rank 8, right? We both agree that part of that story is in bad taste I think.
I'm different in that I can't separate that part of the link from the rest. It's because I believe that the entire link revolves around that one scene.
I've been saying that every link is structured differently. They have some common traits of course. Like, there's usually an NPC(s) involved that facilitates the character's later changes. In Rise's case, that's obviously the manager, right?
Inoue, the manager, is introduced very early on as a shady individual you are supposed to be weary of, in favor of Rise. And it builds, with every scene afterwards.
I guess what I'm trying to get at here, is that Rise's story involves the MC in a different way than other links do. In other social links with girls, you can waifu them after their conflict is already solved. And usually any prior allusions to said romance is done separately, and is mostly secondary.
Rise's link is different in that you waifu her during the APEX of her conflict and all the prior events from before lead up to that one moment. It's a waifu social link. (Lovers Rank2) The social link starts at Souzai Daigaku, where she elaborates on her loneliness but that she's happy to have you around. Lovers Rank 8, where her manager tells her off and you comfort her, takes place at the exact same setting, with the same camera angle. It's totally deliberate.
I only played Golden but I know that fully voiced social links were a new addition. Rise's the only character in this game that gets 3 entire link ranks, fully voiced. And it starts at Rank 8. Yeah Rank 8. It doesn't start with her moment of clarity. It starts in the scene where you're supposed to comfort her in a moment of weakness.
I think we both agree that there are some parts of her character development that are repetitive. I don't think it's due to lack of creativity on the writer's parts. It's because if Rise actively built off her shadow dungeon encounter, you would have something similar to Kanji's situation. The problem wouldn't be an inner conflict, but instead it would be more about actions to change. And that kind of development wouldn't involve the MC in same way that it does now.
I'll be the first to say they screwed up.
I hate to bring up Yosuke again because it just leads to off topic things, but he's like the perfect example. He's supposed to be your endearing best friend...but a lot of people don't look at him that way.
You've brought up similar reasoning with Yukiko, right? It doesn't matter what the supposed intention is.
I should explain that I think that Lovers Arcana is designated to the primary love interest, like Yukari in P3. It was just me saying that if Rise weren't pushed as that, she as a character would have been better off.
But the idea of there being a primary love interest is up for interpretation, so we'll have to agree to disagree on that.
SloaneRisette
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The purpose of that opening cutscene is so Tank can always rag on me
Bwahaha. So good.gif.
Well it isn't the style really, just that her head isn't proportionate to the others on the page. I'm hardly one to judge the quality of the artist's work past that.
I played Persona 3 Portable male and female at the same time, and Clara is the name I gave to my female protagonist. I named the male Makoto, but eventually he was Makoto Bravo to me, on account of his quirky attempts to score him some lady time.
CrazyTank940
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An unspoken truth, it keeps the Rise jokes alive
Green Mamba
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Are we still going on with the Rise thing, seriously.
SloaneRisette
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She was in a bikini once clearly she's an unclean youth who must see the light
I just started playing P3P as both male and female MCs based on your experience and I'm having a lot of fun with it. Even just past the 1st Midterms I'm already seeing different personalities.
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