And some erotic artists do professional work that is awful.
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Persona Community Thread |OT6| Where 6 Comes Before 5 (No PQ or P4U spoilers!)
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And some erotic artists do professional work that is awful.
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Famitsu posted a video interview with Soejima from E3 one month ago that nobody seems to have noticed.
I'm not talking about the possibility that they may happen, because all of those characters are actually at 0%. I'm talking about "viability" in terms of narrative (which I thought was obvious), because those characters are far more viableor at least as viableas Dojima.
This discussion point is stupid. I'm saying it right now: Dojima will never be in Persona 4 Arena Ultimax as a playable character, and neither will
Namatame or Mitsuo
Yeah, noticed that from the Atlus x Famitsu blog just a few days ago myself.
Q's place in the timeline is complicated. The P3 segment takes place during the storm that hits Tatsumi Port Island while the P4 segment is set during the culture festival.
Lol, that helps alil i guess. Im just going through Persona 3 for the first time right now and im absolutely loving it after about 20 hours. Still miss some of P4 enhancements but the story is P3 is soo much better.
Lollipop Dave
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SME of my least favourite memories from Uni.
names2hard4you
Member
Eh I figured you asked what you asked because you never finished P3, it'll make more sense when you do. Enjoy the ride friend!
Dragon1893
Member
In think P4's story is a lot more challenging to write and the serial murder investigation angle a lot more original for a jrpg.
Wow, after beating p3p, playing p3fes answer, p4, and p4g, then returning to play p3p, I can see the huge graphical down grade they did to get it on the psp. At first I thought it was only the 3d environments being taken away mainly- that was before I had something to compare it to though.
It took me a little while to get used to it again. I was craving to play persona 3 though, since it is my favorite out of p3/p4. I doubt it would happen, but I would really love a "golden" version of P3FES on the vita
It took me a little while to get used to it again. I was craving to play persona 3 though, since it is my favorite out of p3/p4. I doubt it would happen, but I would really love a "golden" version of P3FES on the vita
names2hard4you
Member
As much as I would love it too, at this point I just wanted them to move on from P3/P4. Both have already been sucked dry specially the latter, and the fatigue is starting to set in for me at least. In with the new Atlus!
Dragon1893
Member
Yeah that would be nice. Most people would call them out for milking the game yet again but it sucks not to have a complete version of the game.
Theodore confirmed as navigator.
Edit: Or match narrator/announcer (which is possibly more likely, since Nanako is cited as well).
Edit: Or match narrator/announcer (which is possibly more likely, since Nanako is cited as well).
Reanimatoin
Member
woo.... I wonder what random bullshit we'll have to do to unlock him.
Did anyone really even care about the navigators? They weren't useful, and you barely even notice them since you're concentrating on the fight anyway.
PS. On the topic of 'adult' entertainment(?), lets not forget that Shinji's English VA dubbed hentai at one point.
Actually, dubbing hentai and other forms of porn is a good way to enter the voice acting industry as far as I know.
Reanimatoin
Member
Hey, I never said it was a bad thing, eventually led to him getting the nod to give us Shinji, Kagura, Leon, Kilik, Flynn etc etc.
Work leads to more work kids, life lesson for ya there.
Um, so? Are we going to complain about the presence of custom titles, custom lobby avatars or custom player icons too? Those who don't care can just disable them.
Reanimatoin
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I know that, I was just looking for a general consensus on what people thought of the navs. I personally dont like them that much, they're distracting at times and apart from a couple of funny lines at the beginning of a match, depending on character choices, they're kinda useless.
They are also not really comparable to titles, lobby avatars or player icons, which are mainly used to show individuality between players, and dont come into play during actual gameplay sections.
But the main gripe that I have with the navs is that they are locked behind either a paywall or a stupidly high skill wall. Aigis, Mitsuru, Fuuka, Nanako and Yosuke require at minimum 3 score attack wins with different characters or to complete challenge mode (or Nanako requires 50 hours match time, which is a fucking lot, Fuuka's 250 online matches aint that bad.). Hell, Yosuke alternately requires 1000 IK wins, I doubt anyone has gotten that one that way.
The way you unlocked announcers (beat story mode with that character), was fine but a bit simple. The navs were on the opposite end of the spectrum. Would have been nice to find a middle ground for unlocking that wasn't just 'give us money'.
PS. For the record, I keep navs on and set to Rise. Seems the most natural one to be honest.
They don't serve a gameplay purpose. They're purely aesthetic, as a means for players to express themselves further.
I don't get it. Why complain about the means to obtain them when they don't matter to you? Why even enable Rise if they're distracting?
The navigators in Arena didn't matter much, as it was just a further way to customize the character you played as compared to others, much the same as alternate costumes or alternate colors are. Of course, in Ultimax, there's a GAME MODE devoted to them, so their importance goes up quite a bit, so it should be interesting to see what this game does about unlocking/buying them.
In terms of new characters being added, it would probably have to be someone that already has a combat persona already. Rise didn't just suddenly become a fighter, she had a whole game already where she felt useless, and she sees the same shit about to happen again, and this causes her persona to change to begin with. Dojima would have to go with confronting his shadow(which, if we gauge how strong a shadow can be is in accordance to how much baggage the person has, Dojima's would be final boss tier), getting a persona, then having people actually explain to him what the shit is going on. Aka way too much to just happen during a story mode(since another new character probably won't be getting their own mode).
I'd love for it to be Fuuka as she's one of my favorite characters, but the Rise explanation doesn't really make sense here. Fuuka helped a lot if she appeared in P4A, and her being a fighter I think kind of goes against who she is coming from P3 anyway.
Of course, this doesn't necessarily exclude someone like
In terms of new characters being added, it would probably have to be someone that already has a combat persona already. Rise didn't just suddenly become a fighter, she had a whole game already where she felt useless, and she sees the same shit about to happen again, and this causes her persona to change to begin with. Dojima would have to go with confronting his shadow(which, if we gauge how strong a shadow can be is in accordance to how much baggage the person has, Dojima's would be final boss tier), getting a persona, then having people actually explain to him what the shit is going on. Aka way too much to just happen during a story mode(since another new character probably won't be getting their own mode).
I'd love for it to be Fuuka as she's one of my favorite characters, but the Rise explanation doesn't really make sense here. Fuuka helped a lot if she appeared in P4A, and her being a fighter I think kind of goes against who she is coming from P3 anyway.
Of course, this doesn't necessarily exclude someone like
Ikutsuki or Nyarly, as a lot could have happened behind closed doors with the former and the latter is, well, yeah...
Reanimatoin
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They dont serve a gameplay purpose, you're right, but they do pop up visibly and audibly at random points during gameplay, which like I said, can be a distraction.
And I should clarify, I dont care about using them, but I have to have them. If there is content on disk, then I need to have access to it whether I want to use it or not. And yes, I do realise this makes me a crazy person but thats just how I am.
And I have Rise enabled because like I said, it feels the most natural thing to do, it feels like that is how the game is meant to be viewed. And plus, playing online, someone will always have a navigator on so turning just yours off is kind of a moot point.
Edit :
Also, this. I am super hyped for this. Giving the navs an actual purpose is going to be AWESOME! But if I have to complete Score Attack with a bunch of people to unlock someone, then I'm going to be pissed. Also, inb4 git gud.
Spectrasonic
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Blood Diamonds
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So happy I'm finally getting Persona 4, can't wait to play it.
If you need a guide, try finding a spoiler-free walk-through if you need help. Other than that, my only advice is avoid Youtube/gaming news sites as you can be easily spoiled on the end story.
Have fun!
Blood Diamonds
Banned
I intend to, I've always wanted to play it.
Thanks, also I already know who the killer is but it doesn't bother me because there's still a ton of story for the characters and overall events that I don't know about. I don't think I'll need a guide because I had no trouble with both P3P and P3FES.
Dragon1893
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Oh I'm pretty sure you'll need it a couple of times.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Well that's scary, but I'm ready for long grinding sessions. Are a Persona's inherited skills still random in Persona 4?
After the fourth dungeon bosses are hardly a problem. It's the out-of-dungeon stuff that will trip you up.
And yes. I think P4 was the last brand-new MegaTen game to use random fusion.
It works much the same way in Persona 4 as it did in Persona 3, with the only difference being very special skills will never have a chance to carry over(this refers to the Severe level versions of spells, like Ragnarok). The only game atm where you actually handpick which abilities carry over is Persona 4 Golden.
Since you played P3P, you should be already familiar with the changes to the battle system that were made going from Persona 3 Fes to P4(as P3P had the same changes in it).
In terms of the story, since you played P3, the game does have a point where you have to input very specific things to avoid a bad ending(much easier than the one choice in P3 you had to make), but that's rather late. The game's structure is almost identical to P3, after all.
Perfect Cha0s
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You probably won't need a guide outside of one particular situation, where the game lets you know that it's an important moment. Grinding isn't really all that necessary, either.
Just remember to fuse often! Sticking to one Persona for a long time is possible with the stat up cards in Golden, but you'll want to stick to fusing new Personas with stronger core abilities in base Persona 4, especially ones in Arcanas you have a high S. Link in (so they level up immediately after fusion). Skill inheritance is still the same as P3/P3P/etc.
Dragon1893
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I'm referring to a couple of story moments, one to avoid the bad ending and another one for the true ending. You have experience from previous games so I doubt you'll get stuck for gameplay reasons, the game is quite easy anyway.
Why would you bring this up? Oh god I just want to forget.
They really just took a big dump on both Tellius protagonists.
One of the more popular Shonen Jump manga apparently is drawn by a hentai artist(Shokugeki no Soma). And it's pretty great actually.
Once again, neither of those characters are more viable than Dojima for the reasons I stated. You'd pretty much have to go to equal lengths to contrive a situation in which they can participate as fighters.
This discussion is pretty stupid, but there's absolute no way those characters are more viable than Dojima (narrative or otherwise). If Dojima is -1%, they're -100%.
What are you even arguing? They're all at 0%. They can be equally as viable from a story perspective or not; I don't really care. The point is, they each have their own reasons as to why they won't happen.
I was just contesting to the argument that those 2 characters were "far more viable/equally viable" than Dojima.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION, OKAY?
I do, but this time I wasn't the instigator...
Are these confirmed? Because I have ~400 online matches as Chie, and another ~150 as Elizabeth and Kanji (from when a friend was playing with my account). I also am 100% sure I have more than 50 hours match time (assuming that counts versus mode), and I had to buy both of those navigators. I want my $3 back!
I don't mind the navigators for the most part, but they have some lines that annoy me.
Like Rise's "I think that fumble back there is why you lost..."
Or the beginning of the match with Chie/Nanako combo, something like "Hey, I know you! You're that girl that goes 'wutah!' "
As if Chie and Nanako don't know each other better than that. Nanako's pretty adorable other than that though